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#141 User is offline   supem 

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Posted 14 October 2009 - 02:15 PM

M()zart,
You can find it here: http://run.to/sz



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Posted 16 October 2009 - 07:14 PM

View PostM()zart, on Oct 14 2009, 02:00 PM, said:

View PostChozo4, on Sep 29 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

I'd been using your older 'G.EXE' (GDIView) for listing the GDI usage.

I cannot find this version on the Internet. Only the new win2k+ version is available. Can you tell me where to find it or upload it somewhere?


http://rwinds.no-ip.org/file/G.rar

This post has been edited by Chozo4: 16 October 2009 - 07:17 PM


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Posted 20 October 2009 - 05:00 AM

View PostChozo4, on Oct 16 2009, 08:14 PM, said:

View PostM()zart, on Oct 14 2009, 02:00 PM, said:

View PostChozo4, on Sep 29 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

I'd been using your older 'G.EXE' (GDIView) for listing the GDI usage.

I cannot find this version on the Internet. Only the new win2k+ version is available. Can you tell me where to find it or upload it somewhere?


http://rwinds.no-ip.org/file/G.rar

Thank you, Chozo4. After four days of trying at last I've downloaded it :)

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Posted 22 November 2009 - 09:20 AM

I'm quite desperate with Flash 10 when it quickly consumed all my GDI resources lightning fast! May you guide me on the procedure for installing and uninstalling this GDI Heap Extender please.

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 11:31 AM

View PostTihiy, on Jul 19 2009, 05:16 AM, said:

GDI Heap Extender is a technology aimed to improve Windows 98/Me system capability to load more programs and run more stable by extending available GDI resources.

Download:
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/rpXbeta2.zip


With the new rpXbeta2 dr watson is now running all the time, can't find how it is getting loaded to shut it down on startup.
Doesn't work with System Tool, and can't find in registry where its loaded?
Thanks,Charlie

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 02:51 AM

View Postcharly, on Nov 26 2009, 06:31 AM, said:

View PostTihiy, on Jul 19 2009, 05:16 AM, said:

GDI Heap Extender is a technology aimed to improve Windows 98/Me system capability to load more programs and run more stable by extending available GDI resources.

Download:
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/rpXbeta2.zip


With the new rpXbeta2 dr watson is now running all the time, can't find how it is getting loaded to shut it down on startup.
Doesn't work with System Tool, and can't find in registry where its loaded?
Thanks,Charlie

Yeah, the last beta2 is unstable, more so than beta1.
So... use rpXbeta1.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 12:40 PM

View PostRetroOS, on Nov 26 2009, 03:51 AM, said:

View Postcharly, on Nov 26 2009, 06:31 AM, said:

View PostTihiy, on Jul 19 2009, 05:16 AM, said:

GDI Heap Extender is a technology aimed to improve Windows 98/Me system capability to load more programs and run more stable by extending available GDI resources.

Download:
http://tihiy.ahanix.org/rpXbeta2.zip


With the new rpXbeta2 dr watson is now running all the time, can't find how it is getting loaded to shut it down on startup.
Doesn't work with System Tool, and can't find in registry where its loaded?
Thanks,Charlie

Yeah, the last beta2 is unstable, more so than beta1.
So... use rpXbeta1.

Your right,thanks

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 10:45 PM

RP 9.1.2 and Norton Antivirus 2005 don't seem to get along at all, I got to install NAV with no issues, but running the program itself resulted in overall system crashes with complete halt other than moving mouse cursor.
I uninstalled RP and things work perfectly now. I've not tried to reinstall RP, but I believe it not to work like before uninstall.

I'll be uninstalling NAV as soon as the new virus definitions get downloaded, so I can add them to the DOS part of NAV I stripped out to do some sweet full system scans and file repairs in pure DOS where no viruses run anymore ^^

So far RP has only caused major problems with NAV2005 for me, and inconveniences with Miranda IM 8.x in form of black icons.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 12:59 AM

View PostTmEE, on Dec 2 2009, 05:45 PM, said:

RP 9.1.2 and Norton Antivirus 2005 don't seem to get along at all, I got to install NAV with no issues, but running the program itself resulted in overall system crashes with complete halt other than moving mouse cursor.
I uninstalled RP and things work perfectly now. I've not tried to reinstall RP, but I believe it not to work like before uninstall.

I'll be uninstalling NAV as soon as the new virus definitions get downloaded, so I can add them to the DOS part of NAV I stripped out to do some sweet full system scans and file repairs in pure DOS where no viruses run anymore ^^

So far RP has only caused major problems with NAV2005 for me, and inconveniences with Miranda IM 8.x in form of black icons.

As the previous three posts have discussed, beta2 (9.1.2) is more unstable than beta1 (9.1.1).
beta1 (9.1.1) is very stable from what I've experienced.

Actually, I've been running for a while without the GDI Heap Extender (that is, just RP 9.1.0).
During this time, I had a number of occasions where I blew out the Windows resources, especially in Firefox 3.5.5, where I had no problem with beta1 (9.1.1).
So... I now have beta1 (9.1.1) installed again and generally more stable than without - probably because of less resource exhaustion crashes.

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Posted 19 December 2009 - 11:30 AM

What about rpxbeta3? See Tihiy's Aug 27 post. Is it more stable than rpxbeta2?

This post has been edited by Bleeder: 19 December 2009 - 11:32 AM


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Posted 21 December 2009 - 02:45 AM

View PostBleeder, on Dec 20 2009, 06:30 AM, said:

What about rpxbeta3? See Tihiy's Aug 27 post. Is it more stable than rpxbeta2?

Beta3 was a very specific test release for one person's problem testing.
It was never intended for general use.
So... Beta1 is still the most stable release.

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:25 PM

sometimes when switching between fullscreen DOS programs and windows, I get this kind of GFX corruption :
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/4/21/187...GFXmessedUp.jpg

it seems its more likely caused by the GFX drivers than anything else, but it's not happening when RP9 is not present. It happens sometimes though.

Also, is there any possibility to have something like "save states" in video game emulators, i.e when windows boots up, you store that state somwehre, and later on if resources get drained etc. you use that state to restore normal operation of things ? It would probably require one to shut off all programs that are running...

...and when there's any window open from Miranda IM, the RPconfig will not become visible.

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Posted 06 February 2010 - 04:17 AM

When I am using Bear and the original WIN 98SE Ressource Meter at the same time, I get 3 times the same values, but the values for GDI and User Ressiruces are inverted in two programs. Very strange !
How can I know what is the real GDI usage and what is User ressources usage ?

Thanks

Rodger

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 02:33 PM

View PostRetroOS, on 21 December 2009 - 02:45 AM, said:

Beta1 is still the most stable release.
I don't know, how you can say that. I tried B1 and 2, they both sucks, hanging my PC almost every time I click on any icon on the desktop or open a program window from Tray. Tihiy appears to abandon all his projects without finishing long time ago. May be someone would be interested to pickup where he left, fix the bugs and finish the project. It looks like a valuable tool to me, if working correctly. I've RP 9.1 installed and working OK, but taking even more dedicated memory (which is tiny by default) than without it.

This post has been edited by simco51: 17 March 2010 - 02:37 PM


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Posted 19 March 2010 - 02:05 PM

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Tihiy appears to abandon all his projects without finishing long time ago.
Well not really. I just shifted focus to other things (KernelEx for example). There is no point releasing new betas unless this thing is stable; finishing this thing requires dedicating extreme effort which is not feasible for me. I'm sorry for that, but I never claimed this thing as usable. I don't see critical problems with RP9 so your point is invalid.

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 02:14 AM

Any idea where i can download rpXbeta1.zip?
I wanted to test it on Opera since at least one of pages that i visit have so much graphical and flash content,
that it freezes my pc (with 768MB RAM).
All links that are in this topic show error 404.

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Posted 24 May 2011 - 07:13 AM

Hello Tihiy and hello dear win9x forum!
The GDI heap extender beta 1 or 2 can be installed over the RP9.7.2 or only over RP9.1.0?
Thank you.
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Posted 10 June 2011 - 10:48 PM

View PostI41Mar, on 24 May 2011 - 07:13 AM, said:

Hello Tihiy and hello dear win9x forum!
The GDI heap extender beta 1 or 2 can be installed over the RP9.7.2 or only over RP9.1.0?
Thank you.
I41Mar

This project was a test release for RP 9.1.0.
Newer RP versions like 9.7.2 replace most of the files from this test release with different and newer builds.
So, to directly answer your question, it can only be used with RP 9.1.0.
Newer RP releases have some heap optimisation technology built in that does improve resource use.
Not as much as this test release, but at least it is stable.

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Posted 24 June 2011 - 01:15 AM

View PostPhilco, on 19 July 2009 - 04:14 PM, said:

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...adding line in win.ini section [windows]

[windows]
GDIMaxHeapSize=2048
(value in KB)


I would think of values like:
<128MB of RAM: 4096 (4MB)
128-256MB of RAM: 8192 (8MB)
256-512MB of RAM: 16384 (16MB)
>512MB of RAM: 32000 (~32MB, maximum value you can set).


Well, none of the GDI Heap Extender links work anymore, including the recommended Beta 1, however, I've tried the above 'win.ini' setting (set to 8192) and it's improved stability markedly, particularly, Shutdown no longer hangs. :)

Joe.

This post has been edited by jds: 24 June 2011 - 01:18 AM


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Posted 26 June 2011 - 09:40 AM

Well, these tricks are rather old now.

They were given by Tihiy and dencorso,
but with the heap optimisation built in last RP (and KernelEx?), do we actually need them?

BTW jds, Tihiy said later that it is inadvisable to allow more than 4 MB to GDIMaxHeapSize as it may deplete too much selectors.

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