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Never create System Reserved partition?

#1 User is offline   arctirus 

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 02:49 PM

Yes, I know there are many hacks around this by using existing partitions, going to diskpart etc but is there a way, perhaps via a setting in autounattend.xml or hacking boot.wim so tomfoolery doesn't have to be utilized every time?

Also, before someone complains about 100mb not being that much space, it isn't the space I'm concerned about. I want my os partitions and system partitions to be the same. For instance, this causes trouble in Ghost corporate when one only has the option to image a single partition or a whole disk.

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 03:39 PM

There's no setting in the unattend to bypass this, at least not one that's documented anywhere in the WAIK.

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 06:46 PM

Why would we need to use such an option to begin with?

What is the original uses of making a reseerved partition?

Extra Memory
Mounting disc ( CD-images etc, dmg files )
backup files incase old files get curropted?

There is no way possible for the partition of any system to be same. Since the idea of a partition is to
literally create a second piece of disc space. Take defeating the limitations of FAT32 by parting of areas of
the drives so that they appear as differnt drives.

The only thing I could think of is VIrtual drive. The term used in Alcohol Soft where it creates a virtual DVD
drive with an ulimitive number of options to mount images.

If I was you I would just make a regular partition for multiple purpose usage. Then nicknaming it

MEMORY
Blank_CD
Backup

I nver heard of a partitian that is one in the same of the same partitian other then a virtual drive like when I load a emulator that creates a file that shows up as a partition but only in the program itself.

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 10:20 AM

View PostLudwig Von Cookie Koopa, on Aug 21 2009, 08:46 PM, said:

Why would we need to use such an option to begin with?


View Postarctirus, on Aug 21 2009, 04:49 PM, said:

Also, before someone complains about 100mb not being that much space, it isn't the space I'm concerned about. I want my os partitions and system partitions to be the same. For instance, this causes trouble in Ghost corporate when one only has the option to image a single partition or a whole disk.



View PostLudwig Von Cookie Koopa, on Aug 21 2009, 08:46 PM, said:

There is no way possible for the partition of any system to be same.



Oh yeah?

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 12:42 PM

before u choose drive in the installation

use diskpart to format it then u wont have 100mb hide drive for the system

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 01:10 PM

Either that or install the OS on a VM, partition as you want, and then sysprep/generalize it and capture it back into a new WIM.

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 09:00 AM

View Postaviv00, on Aug 24 2009, 02:42 PM, said:

before u choose drive in the installation

use diskpart to format it then u wont have 100mb hide drive for the system


That's what I did. I just hoping to find a way so as to not have to do that. Oh well.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 06:17 AM

View Postarctirus, on Aug 21 2009, 09:49 PM, said:

Also, before someone complains about 100mb not being that much space, it isn't the space I'm concerned about. I want my os partitions and system partitions to be the same. For instance, this causes trouble in Ghost corporate when one only has the option to image a single partition or a whole disk.

Second reason for suppressing this 100 mb partition:
Because of the limitation of maximum 4 primary partitions per hard disk this little partition can be in the way. For example: If you have a large hard disk and want to install several operating systems (XP, Vista, Linux and Windows 7).

Remark:
If you have three for Windows 7 not accessible partitions (e.g. Linux or "hidden" partitions of XP and Vista) then Windows 7 also install the boot manager in last (4th) possible partition.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 03:28 PM

View Postunawave, on Sep 13 2009, 06:17 AM, said:

View Postarctirus, on Aug 21 2009, 09:49 PM, said:

Also, before someone complains about 100mb not being that much space, it isn't the space I'm concerned about. I want my os partitions and system partitions to be the same. For instance, this causes trouble in Ghost corporate when one only has the option to image a single partition or a whole disk.

Second reason for suppressing this 100 mb partition:
Because of the limitation of maximum 4 primary partitions per hard disk this little partition can be in the way. For example: If you have a large hard disk and want to install several operating systems (XP, Vista, Linux and Windows 7).

Remark:
If you have three for Windows 7 not accessible partitions (e.g. Linux or "hidden" partitions of XP and Vista) then Windows 7 also install the boot manager in last (4th) possible partition.


u could del the partition and fix the boot ?

This post has been edited by aviv00: 24 September 2009 - 03:28 PM


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 01:37 AM

View Postunawave, on Sep 13 2009, 02:17 PM, said:

Because of the limitation of maximum 4 primary partitions per hard disk this little partition can be in the way. For example: If you have a large hard disk and want to install several operating systems (XP, Vista, Linux and Windows 7).


All four mentioned systems can (and should in mypersonal opinion) be installed on logical volumes inside extended.

You only need one primary active partition for the bootloader(s).

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 25 September 2009 - 01:38 AM


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Posted 28 September 2009 - 05:13 PM

View Postarctirus, on Aug 21 2009, 03:49 PM, said:

Yes, I know there are many hacks around this by using existing partitions, going to diskpart etc but is there a way, perhaps via a setting in autounattend.xml or hacking boot.wim so tomfoolery doesn't have to be utilized every time?

Also, before someone complains about 100mb not being that much space, it isn't the space I'm concerned about. I want my os partitions and system partitions to be the same. For instance, this causes trouble in Ghost corporate when one only has the option to image a single partition or a whole disk.


I have patched setup to allow just this.

fire up a hexeditor and edit winsetup.dll in dvdroot\sources and boot.wim\sources
after the mod you will be able to create a whole disk partition during setup by
manualy creating the partition, if you just click next windows will use the default
partition layout.

32 bit
Comparing files orig_winsetup.dll and mod_WINSETUP.DLL
00077798: 74 EB

64 bit
Comparing files orig_winsetup.dll and MOD_WINSETUP.DLL
00084AC4: 74 EB

premoded winsetup.dll here

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ao423wzdjko/...ed_winsetup.zip


doesnt work with unattended installs, someone better with IDA than me will have to give that a try
look sorta easy if you know assembly.

This post has been edited by untermensch: 28 September 2009 - 05:16 PM


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Posted 30 September 2009 - 06:45 AM

think the most simple is create the part, let it create the 100mb, del the big part and extend the 100mb out to end or wherever you want
then format it so it don't say system reserved
but right now i'm not multi booting.

This post has been edited by maxXPsoft: 06 October 2009 - 10:01 AM


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