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Install XP from a RAM loaded ISO image

#141 User is offline   daddy_fizz 

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Posted 14 March 2010 - 05:52 PM

Any simplier methods to make a sorted ISO? I seem to be having a heck of a time getting all the tools to work, and getting strange errors from the .cmd...

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  Posted 23 March 2010 - 01:08 AM

I run the file MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd
and get the error this
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error: SourceDir not defined

MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd [options] Windows_source_directory
-o: output ISO file name
-b: boot sector file, relative path to windows source directory
V: set volume ID

Press any key to continue. . .
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This post has been edited by jaclaz: 23 March 2010 - 05:33 AM
Reason for edit: Removed needless quote


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Posted 23 March 2010 - 03:47 AM

View Postsh770, on 23 March 2010 - 01:08 AM, said:

I run the file MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd
and get the error this
============
error: SourceDir not defined

MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd [options] Windows_source_directory
-o: output ISO file name
-b: boot sector file, relative path to windows source directory
V: set volume ID

Press any key to continue. . .
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Is this a joke or what?
HOW do you run it? By double clicking on it? :w00t:
It is a BATCH file!
You need to open a command prompt and "run" it specifying the options (if needed) and AT LEAST the Windows_source_directory.
The defaults are:
rem some defaults
set boot_sector_file=bootsect.bin
set IsoFile=%~dp0XP.iso
set SourceDir=
set mkisofs_option=


and, obviously you will need the external exe's:
rem used external applications
rem mkisofs.exe : http://cdrecord.berlios.de  http://www.student.tugraz.at/thomas.plank/
rem dd.exe      : http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
rem gsar.exe    : http://home.online.no/~tjaberg


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Posted 23 March 2010 - 05:12 AM

When I run the file I get the error I wrote up
1. Do I need to edit the file or something
2. I have these files of course
Attached File  error .JPG (28.83K)
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This post has been edited by jaclaz: 23 March 2010 - 05:32 AM
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 05:23 AM

@sh770
The source dir does containt the windows installation files.

Create a directory C:\INST\XP_RAM\

Copy all files and directories from your windows installation CD to hard disk C:\INST\XP_RAM\

Extract the Boot Image file to C:\INST\XP_RAM\bootsect.bin. Case is importand.
http://www.nu2.nu/bbie/

Copy mkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd to C:\INST\.

mkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd

Quote


Copy files to C:\INST\.

In addition a windows default file find.exe is expected at path.

Open a command prompt and run
cd /d C:\INST
MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd XP_RAM


@daddy_fizz
No, I don't know a simplier methods to make a sorted ISO.
Which errors do you get?

@all
To clarify: a sorted ISO file is optional.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 05:31 AM

English is such a difficult language, but I wonder which is the difficult part:

View Postjaclaz, on 23 March 2010 - 03:47 AM, said:

You need to open a command prompt and "run" it specifying the options (if needed) and AT LEAST the Windows_source_directory.

Example:
You ran:

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MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd

You can see that you DID NOT specify ANYTHING on command line, exception made for the script name.

Command lines like these:

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MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd C:\INST\XP_RAM
MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd XP_RAM

contain the MINIMUM, REQUIRED parameter (the Source).

A sommand line like this:

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MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd -b myboot.bin XP_RAM

has, besides the minimum, required source the option to use INSTEAD of the DEFAULT bootsector file "bootsect.bin" a custom one, named "myboot.bin".

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 12:46 AM

Don't know what I was doing wrong before - I think I got it to create properly now. I will test it out and see how it works

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 01:55 AM

Ok went to test it...It boots and gets to "starting windows" section of txt setup.

Blue screens with this message

"Stop: c0000221 unknown hard error
\systemroot\system32\ntdll.dll"

I take it something didn't get sorted right or ???

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 04:50 AM

View Postdaddy_fizz, on 24 March 2010 - 01:55 AM, said:

I take it something didn't get sorted right or ???


Does this method works allright if you don't sort anything? :unsure:

View Postcdob, on 23 March 2010 - 05:23 AM, said:

@all
To clarify: a sorted ISO file is optional.


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Posted 24 March 2010 - 08:55 AM

@cdob
I did all what you wrote
And that begins to work
But the software gives an error and DD stopped
Attached File  ללא שם.JPG (84.85K)
Number of downloads: 36

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 24 March 2010 - 10:34 AM
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Posted 24 March 2010 - 10:28 AM

View Postsh770, on 24 March 2010 - 08:55 AM, said:

I did all what you wrote
I doubt this.

The file C:\INST\XP_RAM\bootsect.bin is missing.
Remember case is importand: bootsect.bin is not BOOTSECT.BIN.

And read the warning: XP_RAM\I386\txtsetp.sif not found.
No sort file created. Read ISO image won't be sorted.

Why do you use a sorted image at all?
Can't you use the whole image?

This post has been edited by cdob: 24 March 2010 - 10:34 AM


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Posted 24 March 2010 - 10:33 AM

View Postsh770, on 24 March 2010 - 08:55 AM, said:

I did all what you wrote
And that begins to work
But the software gives an error and DD stopped

The first error - long before the dd one - is related to missing files:

1) Does C:\INST\XP_RAM\I386\txtsetup.sif exist? :unsure:

2) Try copying bootsect.bin to C:\INST\ also.

jaclaz
P.S. Sorry cdob, cross-posting, though the bootsect.bin appears like a problem with the path of it in mkisosf options, it seems to me like it is needed in two places:
pushd "%SourceDir%"

if not exist %boot_sector_file% (
 echo.&echo error: boot sector file not found &call :Help &pause &goto :eof)

this checks for it in C:\INST\XP_RAM\ while mkisofs seems like looking for it in C:\INST\ :unsure:

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 11:29 AM

It does work fine to load the whole image, I just was looking for setting this up on older/slower machines.

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 12:00 PM

I use the classification to install on a computer without enough RAM
File txtsetup.sif is there
I do not know why this warning has

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 01:32 PM

View Postdaddy_fizz, on 24 March 2010 - 11:29 AM, said:

It does work fine to load the whole image, I just was looking for setting this up on older/slower machines.

Can you clarify some parts:
Which windows files did you used? Do you use a OEM version?
Did you slipstream a SP? How do you slipstreams?
Did you changed windows files in addition? Did you edited, added or deleted a file?

Which menu.lst do you use?
Does RAM loaded ISO image contain a file RAMBOOT.LST?
Which contents does contain file RAMBOOT.LST?


View Postsh770, on 24 March 2010 - 12:00 PM, said:

I use the classification to install on a computer without enough RAM
File txtsetup.sif is there
How much RAM does computer hold?

Sorry, there is a issue with relative path.
Try full path
MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd C:\INST\XP_RAM


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Posted 24 March 2010 - 04:10 PM

Now it worked well
But where it says to me the number I need to register in menu.lst
Total translation table size: 2048
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 0
Total directory bytes: 1073716
Path table size(bytes): 4712
Max brk space used 480000
335264 extents written (654 MB)
RAMload 315146240 RamLoadSectors 153880
FileSize 172
rawwrite dd for windows version 0.5.
Written by John Newbigin <jn@it.swin.edu.au>
This program is covered by the GPL.  See copying.txt for details
172+0 records in
172+0 records out



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Posted 24 March 2010 - 04:38 PM

I put that number 153,880
Installation begins to run until the stage of the setup is starting windows
Then I get this screen
Attached File  Windows XP Professional (2)-2010-03-25-00-32-16.png (2.7K)
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Posted 24 March 2010 - 05:09 PM

View Postcdob, on 24 March 2010 - 01:32 PM, said:

View Postdaddy_fizz, on 24 March 2010 - 11:29 AM, said:

It does work fine to load the whole image, I just was looking for setting this up on older/slower machines.

Can you clarify some parts:
Which windows files did you used? Do you use a OEM version?
Did you slipstream a SP? How do you slipstreams?
Did you changed windows files in addition? Did you edited, added or deleted a file?

Which menu.lst do you use?
Does RAM loaded ISO image contain a file RAMBOOT.LST?
Which contents does contain file RAMBOOT.LST?


View Postsh770, on 24 March 2010 - 12:00 PM, said:

I use the classification to install on a computer without enough RAM
File txtsetup.sif is there
How much RAM does computer hold?

Sorry, there is a issue with relative path.
Try full path
MkISO_RAMload_sort.cmd C:\INST\XP_RAM



Windows XP SP3 setup disk, unattaned with driverpacks (method2). Also nlited to get the image size down

I tried both menu methods posted in post #69 on page 4, they both load the iso fine, but stop with that error I mentioned before. ISO does contain ramboot.lst which I tried to boot from

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 02:46 PM

Let's investigate:

How much RAM do you use?

Create a file list from ISO image:
isoinfo.exe -l  -i XP_RAM.ISO > iso_list.txt
Isoinfo is part of cdrtools package, as mkisofs.

Can you upload ramboot.lst, sort.txt and iso_list.txt ?

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 06:01 PM

@cdob
Attached File  sort.txt (97.88K)
Number of downloads: 28
Attached File  iso_list.rar (92.35K)
Number of downloads: 32
Attached File  ramboot.rar (253bytes)
Number of downloads: 33

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