[RHPT]

Is it possible to remove Game Explorer with vLite and not have the Win7 installation die? (not using dism.exe).

[Zumoc]

There a problem whit virtualbox that can't recognize the virtual disk. I can't try my image e i dont know what driver i can try to istal in orden to recognize the virtual disk of virtualbox.I have also unceck the chipset support driver .

[Zumoc]

The previus problem seem to be a erroneuos uncheck in Vlite . Possibly the Dinamic Volume Manager (???).

But the problem below is more serious.This appear whith or whitout the "batch file treatment"

This post has been edited by Zumoc: 02 November 2009 - 03:03 PM

[RHPT]

Also, do these packages uninstall the .NET Framework? Sorry for all the questions!

[liquid0624]

RHPT, on Nov 2 2009, 08:28 PM, said:

Also, do these packages uninstall the .NET Framework? Sorry for all the
questions!

no .net fw is required for apps in the OS as well as many 3rd party apps. I answered your game explorer removal question in dead0's thread its better to ask then assume especially regarding the task at hand!

[liquid0624]

Zumoc, on Nov 2 2009, 01:46 PM, said:

There a problem whit virtualbox that can't recognize the virtual disk. I can't try my
image e i dont know what driver i can try to istal in orden to recognize the virtual
disk of virtualbox.I have also unceck the chipset support driver .

You did not follow step 21 u need to copy original setup.exe from the sources folder from untouched win7 DVD or retail ISO image the sources folder of the image u made with this guide !

[liquid0624]

Zumoc, on Nov 2 2009, 05:02 PM, said:

The previus problem seem to be a erroneuos uncheck in Vlite . Possibly the Dinamic Volume Manager (???).

But the problem below is more serious.This appear whith or whitout the "batch file treatment"

[RHPT]

I get this error when running the mount.bat file. I'm using the 7elite64 package. And I am running the command prompt with Administrator rights. I am trying to run the process with a computer running Win7Ultimate x64. I don't know if that makes a difference.

I notice that there has been similar posts in this thread about this issue, but no clear solution has been offered.

C:\7elite64\batch>mount

ImageX Tool for Windows
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. All rights reserved.


Mounting (RW): [C:\7elite64\source\sources\install.wim, 4] ->
			   [C:\7elite64\mount]

Error mounting image (RW):

Access is denied.
-------------------------------------------
------Pre-install registry Tweak Tool------
---------------for Windows 6.x-------------
-------------------------------------------
Processing : C:\7elite64\mount
Registry file not found!
-------------------Ending------------------
Removing BKP file...					 Unhandled error occured.
Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: path
-------------------Ending------------------
Removing BKP file...
Unhandled Exception: System.ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: path
   at System.IO.File.Delete(String path)
   at install_wim_tweak.Program.Ending()
   at install_wim_tweak.Program.Main(String[] args)

This post has been edited by RHPT: 03 November 2009 - 12:00 PM

[solar]

First of all, cheers liquid for the guide..but I must say something which up until running thisguide, Iwouldn agree with (sorry my spacebar is borked).

A. I realize, that all 3 of your presets are far too unstable.. in fact , all 3 of them break certian dependencies when you play around enough with win 7 making them not* efficient at all, as stability is a given for a new OS onemust hope.

Regarding space.. then one can remove almost 4.7 GB or thereabouts just by removing, help, natural languages, speech support and languages, all withvLite.

I realize probably so many people want to make a smaller but yet stable working custom image for recovery or reformat purposes , so I think I might ifI bother, make a guide which does slipstreaming and customisation in a way I have ifnally figured out to be a sane method for single computer deployment (and not MASS* deployments).

From your guide, I would reocmmend, only* removing the unneeded language packs via removal.bat, and any non edition packages. I dont remembernow, there was maybe one or two more packages.

Run the commit, mount in vLite, and go with thismethod, the components I mentioned above takes off over 4 GB, and p***in about with the other components like [network], [hardware support]. etc. just makes it more likely to break some dependencies (btw, my sticky notes died doing a very conservative verison of media preset).

ANyway, whats the point of removing something which takes up 1 mb and might barely be using ram?

Thats my two pence of advice.

Anyway, when this is done , rebuild. exit. AGAIN, cleanup.bat is I think too unstable. OUt of curiousity liquid, how many test settings has your settings passed? (boxconfigurations, VM contra physical ) etc? Anyway, all this is not meant to be critique to the vastly helpful starter with this guide, but I just think it is too customised for most of the users posting. Anywhooooo, going back. (Unless one is skilled enough to see what in cleanup might again screw around with in terms of non US language OS etc, onemight as well leave cleanup.bat alone to start with).

On the setup file, just don't delete the stuff in source, and dont* remove setup.exe (for almost 100 MB I know, but in vista as well , it was better to keep it normally). This way you will avoid a lot of the install issues. Again, many hours can be saved, for those little extra bytes.

(But yes, to be safe , I still copy the setup.exe from the dvd although it worked not doing so as well).

Right, dont meddle with theservices much, I got a services error rebuilding in vLite when I changed 3 of them only lol.They can be stopped/started in OS anyway.

I do some cleanup fromcleanup.bat but I also when I am mounted after rebuild, patch, customise, add any folders, settings n stuff like that now (eg. replace notepadwith notepad2, add custom logonsound etc).

then again commmit, load into vLite, rebuild, burn ISO.

I install (dont bother with unattend), install. WHen I'min windows, I customise EVERYTHING I want to have in my install image, including drivers, programs, settings, backgrounds, everyting, the lot. I also add a custom bg logonimage, custom icons, whatever. (alternatively, one could go into audit mode, during this.. I'll investigate this more before saying anything final). When all this is done, I make the administrator accoutn active, reboot, copy other account as Default, and sysprep /generralize... n shut down. I then go into my main building OS and capture the image.

This way , ALL Settings will be stored when I create my account again when I reformat int he future, will have all basic programs installed yaddi yaa. Then I can burn this image either onto a windows PE disk, OR if you really wanna go advanced, you create the kind of recovery partitions etc. as OEM systems often come with. (I might write a guide on that, but this is a bitmore complex and not gonna go into it now).

Voila, forget all the crap of integrating hotfixes, LPs, drivers, programs with WAIK, MDT, vLite, RunOnce, unattend, etc. when it is your single home image.. just imagex it and all is cool. Ye?

thats it. from this those who keep getting errors, should pick up what thepoint is... go less into skinning the OS till u have played aroundand see what is depending on what n all that.

toodles

Solar

[Zumoc]

liquid0624, on Nov 2 2009, 09:44 PM, said:

Zumoc, on Nov 2 2009, 01:46 PM, said:

There a problem whit virtualbox that can't recognize the virtual disk. I can't try my
image e i dont know what driver i can try to istal in orden to recognize the virtual
disk of virtualbox.I have also unceck the chipset support driver .

You did not follow step 21 u need to copy original setup.exe from the sources folder from untouched win7 DVD or retail ISO image the sources folder of the image u made with this guide !

Hi Liquid,If i replace the original setup.exe , howener these does not work because missing a relative dll of setup.exe.I can't remember exactly the name but seem to be something like setup.dll.

This post has been edited by Zumoc: 03 November 2009 - 10:54 AM

[Zumoc]

"setup" problem solved.

I have uncheck :

1) Manual Install
2) Driver
3) Harware support

these remain in the iso.



5.09Gb size with 1Gb for pagefile.sys that i do not use whit 4Gb of ram.

Only a thing.I Do not find the sniping tool for me useful.

[RHPT]

I figured out my issue wih mounting the image. I used powershell instead of the regular command line. I am using Win7 to run these procedures, so that might have something to do with it. The path is: C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe

[atolica]

dead0, on Sep 14 2009, 07:12 PM, said:

make sure you copy over the setup.exe from the original sources folder to the vlite'd sources folder

I don't get it. I am just about to start the installation using a 7elite32 disc and I want to have it all clear before doing that.

A lot of people here are having problems with setup.exe. So liquid0624 or liquidgirl. In the 7guide32 pdf, you specify at point 20 and continue with point 21:

Quote

The concept is that vLite removed the “setup.exe” file, but you need the original “setup.exe” file or your install will not work but will fail instead. Right click the “setup.exe” file and left click to copy the file;

Which one of the setup.exe files, because there are two ?!?!?!? Setup.exe from the Source\Sources folder 238 KB (244,224 bytes) or the setup.exe from the Windows 7 DVD root size 109 KB (111,880 bytes) ???

I assume that both files need to be copied respecting their original locations. Setup.exe from Source\Sources to the Source\Sources folder and setup.exe from DVD Root to the Root of the slimmed iso, respectively.

This is really important. Some people don't have the ambition to read the whole thread to eliminate problems, then proceed in installing Windows 7 and they start having all sorts of issues, like missing cd/dvd driver error and such.

The guide also needs some retouching here and there, especially English grammar correction. This is not intended as an offense. Myself, being proficient in English, had some problems in understanding what you meant in some sections of the guide and I am sure others had problems also.

Thank you.

Atolica

This post has been edited by atolica: 07 November 2009 - 06:36 AM

[atolica]

Zumoc, on Nov 3 2009, 11:15 PM, said:

"setup" problem solved.

I have uncheck :

1) Manual Install
2) Driver
3) Harware support

these remain in the iso.



5.09Gb size with 1Gb for pagefile.sys that i do not use whit 4Gb of ram.

Only a thing.I Do not find the sniping tool for me useful.

The snipping tool is removed by removal.bat script inside batch folder. So you have to edit it and delete "%rempacks%Microsoft-Windows-SnippingTool-Package%winsuffix%" (that is for 7lite32 script. I guess it is the same for the 64 bit script), deselect Snipping tool inside vlite and save the preset.ini file. That should take care of that. Very useful tool indeed.

Atolica

[slickric21]

Hello, new user here.

I've just followed the excellent guide today, but sadly i've encounter a problem what Zumoc and atolica have talked about.

When mounting the newly created 7elite64.iso, setup would fail on the screen just after i've chosen my keyboard and languge, becuse it was telling me I had "no floppy, usb or CD/DVD driver drivers installed".
Now I definaltely followed the guide to the letter and did copy across the correct setup.exe from my orginal iso.

My original untouched .iso of home premium installs just fine.

What could it be ?
Is it related to the setup.exe files or maybe to something about what solar mentions a few post above re deleting all the files in the "sources" folder ?

edit**

Okay I was being a noob and it was the setup.exe file causing it.
In step 20 I had copied across the "setup.exe" located on the root of my DVD and not the one located within the sources folder.
Thanks to atolica for the heads up on this a few posts up

This post has been edited by slickric21: 09 November 2009 - 08:57 AM

[Stardust]

Hi all,

I am new to the idea of shrinking windows installation via removing stuff from the setup DVD, so pls forgive me if I ask noob questions.

I am trying to shrink Windows 7 Pro installation into my 16GB Netbook, coz I need to install some other space hungray programs so I need to shrink windows down to make way for other apps.

1. I have set the image=4 in Step 7, is this the correct setting?

2. On step 9, I have only a feedback from imagex saying the mountrw was sucessful, but I didn't get any feedback about rather the tweak was installed sucessfully, is that normal?

3. Assuming everything is ok, I went on to step 10 and I get a lot of the DISM errors

 
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 6.1.7600.16385
Image Version: 6.1.7600.16385
Processing 1 of 1 - An error occurred - Microsoft-Hyper-V-Common-Drivers-Package Error: 0x80070005
Error: 5
Access is denied.
The DISM log file can be found at C:\Windows\Logs\DISM\dism.log
 

4. Again, assuming everything is ok I keep going till step 19, however, I found that the source folder is gone from windows explore as well as "dir" from the command prompt. A new folder named "Temp Burning Dir" something like that appears.

At this point I think something has gone wrong so I stopped and deleted everything and started again but the same happened.
I am doing all these on my Vista Business 32-bit desktop.

Thanks for your time!

[atolica]

@stardust

Sometimes when your windows installation is all messed up with allot of installed software it may cause such problems.

You need to test this in an almost new installed Windows. For me it works both in Windows XP SP 3 and Windows 7, 32 and 64 bit. So see that your OS is not messed up by redundant registry keys. Reg cleaners mostly don't work, so don't try that !

[slickric21]

Used the 7Elite64 preset and so far my install seems to be ok.

Just one thing though i noticed the WinSAT doesn't work, I saw in another thread the disk cleanup had to be kept for it to work which I did.
Get the following error

Any ides what else not to remove to keep the WinSAT thing working

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[kabelnet]

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This post has been edited by kabelnet: 13 November 2009 - 03:18 AM

[Stardust]

atolica, on Nov 12 2009, 03:25 AM, said:

@stardust

Sometimes when your windows installation is all messed up with allot of installed software it may cause such problems.

You need to test this in an almost new installed Windows. For me it works both in Windows XP SP 3 and Windows 7, 32 and 64 bit. So see that your OS is not messed up by redundant registry keys. Reg cleaners mostly don't work, so don't try that !

I have tried again with a fresh install of Win7 Pro 32bit and still the same problem with vLite. So anymore suggestions?

Also, I found out a solution to the DISM errors, that I have to manually install the registry tweak again after the mount.bat, with this command:

 
install_wim_tweak.exe /m 

then type in the path of the mount folder, then run the removal.bat then I can remove most of the Pro-package, but still having error with HomePerimum and Ultimate packages.

If at this stage I ignored the DISM error on the non-Pro edition packages and go on to vLite, vLite will complain about the version number of the source files being 0.0.0.0. Then if I load the preset and click on the apply button I get the "Rebuild One ()" option instead of the expected "Rebuild One (Professional)". If I keep going to rebuild the image the same "System can not find the specific file" error appears when the progress bar saying "Rebuilding Image (0.00MB).

So, what have I done wrong?

This post has been edited by Stardust: 13 November 2009 - 02:22 PM