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[Guide] Win7/Server SP1 - Removal With Vlite and RT Lite

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no u need to use vlite to remove winsxs and then remove pending file too


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no u need to use vlite to remove winsxs and then remove pending file too


Alright, so I put on the vlite "extreme" trigger I just need to remove the Component Cache (WinSxS) component and I'm good to go?

or something breaks and I bug you about it... but I've got the directions correct now right? :)

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yea but then u need to choose method 2 to complete the installation
if u can remove the pending.xml from winsxs dir its must better and faster

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yea but then u need to choose method 2 to complete the installation
if u can remove the pending.xml from winsxs dir its must better and faster


Hm well before you got back to me I just tested it, I had done the previous removal of Pending.XML then went into vlite and selected the Component Cache component. It seemed to install fine using VMWare not going through method 2. Dunno if it have remained stable, I didn't really try to do anything with it besides seeing if it would install and open a few windows.

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I can get all updates EXCEPT KB971468, I've tried both automatic and manual install. I get Error: 80073712, which triggers KB947821 to run again but that doesn't help.

It's not a problem for me really, integration would probably work. I just wonder if I'm the only one? Have anyone succeeded?

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They have updated KB947821, and I wonder if anyone here could point me to the last version

Edited by mraeryceos, 03 May 2010 - 10:23 PM.


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They have updated KB947821, and I wonder if anyone here could point me to the last version.
I can only find one published April 27, 2010:
http://www.microsoft...&displaylang=en
The one I downloaded is named Windows6.1-KB947821-v5-x86.msu
What was the previous you guys were using? I haven't tried this one, but I don't want to start with it when I never gave the previous a try.

Edited by mraeryceos, 03 May 2010 - 10:51 PM.


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I can confirm that I am unable to install April 13's KB978601 and KB979309 updates, recieving the 80073712 error on a newly vLited install based on dead0's OP instructions. I'm having it install the latest iteration KB947821 again to make sure... unsure what to do, I'm normally a Mac guy now ( :sneaky: ) and I'm doing my mom a favor by setting up Windows 7 on a netbook she got off Craigslist. I must say, it's pretty slick... if it weren't for the Windows Update problems.

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Date Published: 4/27/2010
is the last version did u install it ?

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Aviv, my experience was that it didn't finish installing (hung about 3/4 of the way there). Although it did create thousands of folders in the winsxs directory. I was using VirtualBox. Do you have a link to the older Windows6.1-KB947821-v4-x86 ?

Edited by mraeryceos, 04 May 2010 - 10:58 AM.


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Aviv, my experience was that it didn't finish installing (hung about 3/4 of the way there). Although it did create thousands of folders in the winsxs directory. I was using VirtualBox. Do you have a link to the older Windows6.1-KB947821-v4-x86 ?


mraeryceos, you have to leave it for quite some time. It will finish installing once it finishes creating all the folders, which will take quite a long time. Mine took about an hour, but I still can't install the April 13 updates, but I don't know.

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thank you zwaldowski, it completed installing.

Has anyone tried removing publicKeyTokens from all the manifest files?
http://blog.kalmbachnet.de/?postid=80

I like apps being more portable, and I'm hoping this ?might? reduce the use of winsxs.

Edited by mraeryceos, 04 May 2010 - 03:28 PM.


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thank you zwaldowski, it completed installing.

Has anyone tried removing publicKeyTokens from all the manifest files?
http://blog.kalmbachnet.de/?postid=80

I like apps being more portable, and I'm hoping this ?might? reduce the use of winsxs.


That's good to hear. Have you been able to get April 13's KB978601 and KB979309 installed?

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That's good to hear. Have you been able to get April 13's KB978601 and KB979309 installed?


I'm holding info hostage in exchange for Windows6.1-KB947821-v4-x86

edit: ok, i'm such a nice guy
These are the updates in this thread people have had problems with:
KB971033 not being able to install this: bonus (didn't bother trying)
KB979309 installation complete
KB976098 not installed (this is the time zone or whatever update)
KB978601 installation complete
KB971468 installation complete

So, only the one Photek said didn't install, doesn't install

Edited by mraeryceos, 05 May 2010 - 02:40 AM.


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That's good to hear. Have you been able to get April 13's KB978601 and KB979309 installed?


I'm holding info hostage in exchange for Windows6.1-KB947821-v4-x86

edit: ok, i'm such a nice guy
These are the updates in this thread people have had problems with:
KB971033 not being able to install this: bonus (didn't bother trying)
KB979309 installation complete
KB976098 not installed (this is the time zone or whatever update)
KB978601 installation complete
KB971468 installation complete

So, only the one Photek said didn't install, doesn't install


Okay, cool, glad those are installed for you, but how? :whistle: I've installed KB947821 v5 a couple of times, uninstalled, and reinstalled, etc. No dice, everything you've been able to install fails for me...

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[Guide] Windows 7 Safe WinSxS Removal With Vlite
by bypassing / ending Setup
and Make OS still updatable



Ver 1.2


1 : just remove Pending.xml from winsxs dir using imagex.exe



It is possible this but I wonder integrated updates are installed. Removing the file is likely pending.xml you do not install the files mentioned in the XML? I completed a version of which I removed removed 90% of the contents of the folder winsxs using vLite. I also removed the file pending.xml. I repeated the operation with the premium version but has problems with Windows Update. He sees the files that were integrated. This problem is trying to integrate this update before or after removal of the file pending.xml. So with this method is not certain that all updates are truly integrated and functional.

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hey zumoc

"Method 1 : just remove Pending.xml from winsxs dir using imagex.exe
[before u delete this file u need to know its like file with some proccess that need to be done after doing update or removing or adding packages mostly not effect the system]"

read what in the [ ]

the best way is install it on vmware let the pending.xml apply [updates and same other things] before remove the winsxs

then use sysperp to reset the hardware config capture it to wim
and then u will be able to remove winsxs without worrying about the updates

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Is there a way to reduce the number of Manifest files in WinSxS\Manifests?

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i guess there is but its too much work
and its anit reduce space by much

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Is there a way to reduce the number of Manifest files in WinSxS\Manifests?


Yes there is
Check this

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hey i will try wait a sec

edit : here the files list with dir /s /a command hope its help

http://www.2shared.c...ed_editing.html

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not needed u can delete them

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It has been my experience, that without the empty directories in the winsxs folder, some software/updates will not install. (though I didn't try method 4)

Edited by mraeryceos, 19 June 2010 - 09:37 AM.


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I'm confused as to what order I'm supposed to do things in to retain updateability, and I can't quite understand what is meant by]

Method 3 : before u apply winsxs removal using vlite install the os on vmware
then sysperp /gen capture it to wim image and then use vlite to remove winsxs
[its best the way but its longest too no need to remove pending.xml if u use this method cos its already applied ]



so before removing winsxs with vlite, as in, make a "vanilla" (untouched/default) install in a virtual machine, run update kb947821 to repair winsxs folder (but it shouldnt be changed at all because we haven't done anything yet....???), extract winsxs from the virtual machine and replace the winsxs on the iso that I've already wim-tweaked and dismed then apply the winsxs removal in vlite.

Is this correct? Also, it might just be me, but I've never seen a winsxs removal option in vlite. I keep checking and I just cant find one.

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hey

no after applying vlite without winsxs removal
install on vmware
sysperp it
use gimagex to capture the image
then use vlite to remove winsxs without need to remove pending.xml

this method is is the best if u going to add updates to ur iso and drivers

after install the os on Host
install the update to fix the updatability

i will work on .ini file with save files so u could use sysperp after remove the winsxs

Edited by aviv00, 03 July 2010 - 12:13 PM.





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