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Post-SP1 updates for Windows 7 (Updated 25/03/2015)


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3035131 replaces 3023562. 3023562 was removed from february list, but 3035131 is missing in march list. Why?




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Another FUBAR Micro$lop update: KB3033929 & KB3035131 were both released 3/10 March patch Tuesday but 3033929 actually then simultaneously supersedes 3035131. :huh:

 

Read here: http://support.micro...n-us/kb/3035131

 

How is this update (3033929) related to the 3035131 update discussed in MS15-025?

This update (3033929) shares affected binaries with the 3035131 update being released simultaneously via MS15-025. This overlap necessitates that one update supersede the other and, in this case, advisory update 3033929 supersedes update 3035131. Customers with automatic updating enabled should experience no unusual installation behavior; both updates should install automatically and both should appear in the list of installed updates. However, for customers who download and install updates manually, the order in which the updates are installed will determine the observed behavior as follows:

 

Scenario 1 (preferred): Customer first installs update 3035131 and then installs advisory update 3033929.
Result: Both updates should install normally and both updates should appear in the list of installed updates. 
 

Scenario 2: Customer first installs advisory update 3033929 and then attempts to install update 3035131.
Result: The installer notifies the user that the 3035131 update is already installed on the system; and the 3035131 update is NOT added to the list of installed updates.

 

 

 

By the above reading I would conclude that KB3035131 is not needed in the ULZ list & doesn't need to be integrated.  I integrated both into a fresh ISO and tested on VM, both showed as installed but when I ran Win Update Cleanup it removed KB3035131.

 

However, by what's written here: http://support.micro...n-us/kb/3035131

 

Known issues with this security update

    If you manually install the security update that is described in advisory 3033929 and then manually install security update 3035131, you receive a message that states that update 3035131 is already installed. In this scenario, security update 3035131 is not added to the list of installed updates. Update 3033929 includes the security updates that are provided by update 3035131. Therefore, the system is not in an unprotected state in this scenario, even though update 3035131 is not added to the list of installed updates. Customers who plan to manually install both updates are advised to install the 3035131 update before they install the 3033929 update. If customers manually install the updates in this order, the list of installed updates will include both updates.

 

 

 ... I would conclude that 3035131 is needed in the list & should  be integrated.  FUBAR indeed.

 

As a side note KB3033929 is causing reboot loops in some users dual-booting Linux OS's.

 

Good job, Micro$lop.  :whistle:


Edited by PinkFreud, 16 March 2015 - 12:59 AM.

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steven4554 thanks for the continued work on the win 7 update lists, but if it's not that much trouble, could you please provide some sort of changelog on what updates were removed from the current update list. Superseded updates just keep piling up :<

Use Disk Cleanup. This removes superseded updates.



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 PinkFreud OK. Thanks 


Edited by ikona, 16 March 2015 - 01:28 AM.


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steven4554 thanks for the continued work on the win 7 update lists, but if it's not that much trouble, could you please provide some sort of changelog on what updates were removed from the current update list. Superseded updates just keep piling up :<

Use Disk Cleanup. This removes superseded updates.

 

 

Did you even read my post? How is a feature of an installed os relevant to the question i asked?

What i wanted to see is something along the lines of this:

 

Updates removed since december 2014 - march 2015 (for me at least)

 

IE11-Windows6.1-KB2956283-x64

IE11-Windows6.1-KB3008923-x64

IE11-Windows6.1-KB3025390-x64

Windows6.1-KB2785220-x64

Windows6.1-KB2847311-x64

Windows6.1-KB2926765-x64

Windows6.1-KB2952664-v7-x64

Windows6.1-KB3002885-x64

Windows6.1-KB3013126-x64

Windows6.1-KB3013455-x64

Windows6.1-KB3023266-x64

Windows6.1-KB3023562-x64

Windows6.1-KB3029944-x64

 

I had a hunch some updates were obsolete by now, therefore after some googling on how to compare folder contents, found out that these ones are no longer relevant.

Btw is there a website to check which updates were superseded, my google fu gave me irrelevant results.



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steven4554 thanks for the continued work on the win 7 update lists, but if it's not that much trouble, could you please provide some sort of changelog on what updates were removed from the current update list. Superseded updates just keep piling up :<

Use Disk Cleanup. This removes superseded updates.

 

 

Did you even read my post? How is a feature of an installed os relevant to the question i asked?

What i wanted to see is something along the lines of this:

 

Updates removed since december 2014 - march 2015 (for me at least)

 

IE11-Windows6.1-KB2956283-x64

IE11-Windows6.1-KB3008923-x64

IE11-Windows6.1-KB3025390-x64

Windows6.1-KB2785220-x64

Windows6.1-KB2847311-x64

Windows6.1-KB2926765-x64

Windows6.1-KB2952664-v7-x64

Windows6.1-KB3002885-x64

Windows6.1-KB3013126-x64

Windows6.1-KB3013455-x64

Windows6.1-KB3023266-x64

Windows6.1-KB3023562-x64

Windows6.1-KB3029944-x64

 

I had a hunch some updates were obsolete by now, therefore after some googling on how to compare folder contents, found out that these ones are no longer relevant.

Btw is there a website to check which updates were superseded, my google fu gave me irrelevant results.

 

And once you find out what updates are superseded you do what? remove them one by one?. This is what disk cleanup is made for. It removes (among other things you select) superseded updates from the system. Essentially eliminating the quessing game about wich updates are superseded and wich are not.

 

If you're talking about removing superseded update packages (.msu or .cab) from disk then that's another matter. Generally you're better offf deleting the previously downloaded files and redownloading the the nessesary updates each month.

 

Trust me when i say that trying to figure out wich updates are currently superseded and keeping such a list updated is something many people have tried in the past (me included) and given up. It's a lot more complicated than you think. Often requiring extraction and examination of individual files inside the packages to deterimine if they're newer.



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Start here.

 

Then go here.

 

Then Mic$oft Update Catalog and then... start praying you don't lose your mind from all the conflicting reports/info from M$. As Tomorrow said it's an impossible task, at least from Vista forward IMHO. That's why there's so many lists & forums with differing versions of lists... like here, Wincert.Net, MDL, WUD... etc. The community members pitching in and helping is what keeps these lists fairly accurate IMO, I pitch in where I can and post info I think may be helpful as do many others here, join the team. :)


Edited by PinkFreud, 17 March 2015 - 09:56 AM.

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Just out of curiosity, is anyone else experiencing install media size issues? My x64 install media with all updates + IE11 + 2 lang packs is very near the 4.7GB DVD size limit.



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What is the best way on Windows 8.1 x64 to incorporate updates in to a Windows 7 image?



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Just out of curiosity, is anyone else experiencing install media size issues? My x64 install media with all updates + IE11 + 2 lang packs is very near the 4.7GB DVD size limit.

Move to NTFS formatted USB stick then. But yes it is a problem since on FAT32 install.wim cannot be larger than 4GB and thus one has to use other filesystems but booting install from those is not as easy as booting from FAT32 (and not as fast imo). Sorry for OT.



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Move to NTFS formatted USB stick then. But yes it is a problem since on FAT32 install.wim cannot be larger than 4GB and thus one has to use other filesystems but booting install from those is not as easy as booting from FAT32 (and not as fast imo). Sorry for OT.

 

 

O/T, sorry: Could one convert install.wim to install.esd thus reducing it's size (hopefully under 4gb) , slap it on a FAT32 stick to install as UEFI? If so, any good how-to's around? Admittedly I haven't searched (nor do I need to) Google.


Edited by PinkFreud, 18 March 2015 - 09:33 AM.


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Hi Steven, Malicicious Software Removel Tool (kb890830) points to v5.21 in both x86 and x64. It's not being retrieved because the latest version is 5.22 on Microsoft's server. Regards, Gideon.



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Yeah, I know and I'll upload new ULZ's in a few minutes.


My Updates Lists for Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1 Update and Windows 10 Preview
My desktop specs (all to be upgraded some time):-CPU: AMD PhenomII X2 555 at 3.2Ghz (Upgrade to AMD FX-6300 Black Edition Hexa Core 3.5GHz)
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HI,

 

please remove KB2998812 from Non-Security Updates.

This is for Windows 7 RTM. Please add KB2952664 V8 instead.

 

Thanx


Edited by dropsman, 23 March 2015 - 11:18 AM.


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HI,

 

please remove KB2998812 from Non-Security Updates.

This is for Windows 7 RTM. Please add KB2952664 V8 instead.

 

Thanx

Thanks for letting me know about KB2998812, I didn't know that update was for the RTM version only. Anyway, it will be removed in tomorrow's ULZ's

KB2952664-v8 will be reinstated in the lists tomorrow too!


My Updates Lists for Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1 Update and Windows 10 Preview
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KB2952664-V9 is out !!!!



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KB2952664-V9 is out !!!!

New ULZ's have been released with this new update included!


Edited by steven4554, 25 March 2015 - 07:53 PM.

My Updates Lists for Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1 Update and Windows 10 Preview
My desktop specs (all to be upgraded some time):-CPU: AMD PhenomII X2 555 at 3.2Ghz (Upgrade to AMD FX-6300 Black Edition Hexa Core 3.5GHz)
M/B: Asus M5A87 (Upgrade to Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0)
Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz (upgrade to 16GB DDR3 1600Mhz)
HDD: 240GB 2x SSD's (Add 1TB Seagate SSHD)
GPU: 1GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX Ti 550 (Add another Ti 550 GPU in SLI config to up memory to 2GB)Optical: None, DVD drives given to family member (Upgrade to BD-ROM and BD rewriter)
OS: Windows XP Pro x64 SP2

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What are you guys using to list all the updates which are installed?

 

I have been using this script http://tomtalks.uk/2...microsoftupdate

 

but it does not list the .NET updates which I installed offline.



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Is one of the new updates non-integrate? I tried updating my install media to include the March '15 patches but now it fails to install with the old familiar "couldn't configure one or more system components".

 

EDIT: DAMNIT! Again I accidentally re-included kb2835174 and that was the cause. Grr! Why, MS?

 

Also about kb3035131 vs. kb3033929: I integrated only kb3033929 and after install, WU still offers kb3035131. Looks like I'll have to integrate that one as well (WTK has a prerequisite section just for stuff like this).


Edited by Nameless Mofo, 05 April 2015 - 11:22 AM.


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I don't think any of the updates from last month, were non-integrate. But I'll test in a VM and see if I get the same message, cause I just updated my install media too.


Edited by steven4554, 05 April 2015 - 11:25 AM.

My Updates Lists for Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1 Update and Windows 10 Preview
My desktop specs (all to be upgraded some time):-CPU: AMD PhenomII X2 555 at 3.2Ghz (Upgrade to AMD FX-6300 Black Edition Hexa Core 3.5GHz)
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Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz (upgrade to 16GB DDR3 1600Mhz)
HDD: 240GB 2x SSD's (Add 1TB Seagate SSHD)
GPU: 1GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX Ti 550 (Add another Ti 550 GPU in SLI config to up memory to 2GB)Optical: None, DVD drives given to family member (Upgrade to BD-ROM and BD rewriter)
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Hey Steven, no need I already found the reason. Accidentally re-included the Polish-only update. >:-(



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Hey Steven, no need I already found the reason. Accidentally re-included the Polish-only update. >:-(

Okay, thanks for the update, and glad you've found the culprit.

 

About KB3033929 and KB3035131, in the security advisories MS states that KB3033929 supersedes KB3035131, so the latter update is not really needed.


My Updates Lists for Windows 7 SP1, Windows 8.1 Update and Windows 10 Preview
My desktop specs (all to be upgraded some time):-CPU: AMD PhenomII X2 555 at 3.2Ghz (Upgrade to AMD FX-6300 Black Edition Hexa Core 3.5GHz)
M/B: Asus M5A87 (Upgrade to Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0)
Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz (upgrade to 16GB DDR3 1600Mhz)
HDD: 240GB 2x SSD's (Add 1TB Seagate SSHD)
GPU: 1GB GDDR5 Nvidia GeForce GTX Ti 550 (Add another Ti 550 GPU in SLI config to up memory to 2GB)Optical: None, DVD drives given to family member (Upgrade to BD-ROM and BD rewriter)
OS: Windows XP Pro x64 SP2

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Hey Steven, no need I already found the reason. Accidentally re-included the Polish-only update. >:-(

Okay, thanks for the update, and glad you've found the culprit.

 

About KB3033929 and KB3035131, in the security advisories MS states that KB3033929 supersedes KB3035131, so the latter update is not really needed.

 

 

Yeah I was following the conversation. Anyway I went ahead and included 3035131 in my integrate, with WTK set to include it as a prerequisite (do those first). Don't know if you use that tool for your images, but I love it.

 

EDIT: ok, kb3035131 seems to be no-integrate for me. I added it in my image and again got the old familiar "windows could not configure some system components" error. ****, the March updates are turning out to be a giant PITA.

 

And since Patch Tuesday is tomorrow, I guess I'll need to grab those updates as well. What a cluster-F.

 

EDIT 2: oops I guess patch tuesday is next week.

 

EDIT 3: sorry for all the edits BUT: it's definitely a problem integrating kb3035131. I just removed it and re-integrated and everything works again. No other changes.

 

EDIT 4: sorry for yet another edit, but it turns out the integrate problem was not with kb3035131, it was something unrelated in how I massage my install images before making my final iso. But I guess it's kind of a moot point now, since kb3035131 was superseded by another update in the April update batch.


Edited by Nameless Mofo, 29 April 2015 - 09:21 AM.


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I hope steven hasn't forsaken us with the update lists.

Still waiting patiently for them.



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I hope steven hasn't forsaken us with the update lists.

Still waiting patiently for them.

 

In the meantime if you can't wait, you can just do what I did: take an iso built off the March ulz, install it in Virtualbox, and run WU from the VM to get the list of updates. Then download them from http://catalog.update.microsoft.com.

 

Although Steven may have some additional ones when he updates his list as he seems to sometimes include things that don't show up in WU for me.






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