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instaling XP from usb after windows 7

#1 User is offline   Ognjeni 

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 07:25 AM

Hello everybody,


first to say this forum rocks , i found out many interesting and great stuff...and thank you for your help and time in advance about my problem.

I have windows 7 32 bit and i want to instal windows xp 32 gb.

i have 2 HDD's(160 gb and 1 TB ) ....windows 7 is on first hdd...160 GB..and i maded 33 GB partition from second HDD ( 1TB) to put XP on it. but there is no way i can do that.

http://i49.tinypic.com/21vuq1.png

I maded bootable USB disk from great guides on this forum....but i have problems during setup......there is 2 steps right....text mode and second GUI mode + 1 st windows start.....

when i finish with first step, PC reboot's and i choose 2nd...GUI mode...but then i get this error <Windows root>\system32\hal.dll


I have readed about that and i think i know why i got that error but i don't know how to fix it.....i readed that when you change boot order in your bios that you can get this error.....and this is my problem...

when i go to bios and select 1st boot device to be USB HDD or zip...i need to change hdd boot order.....i need to put that usb on first place in froont of the 2 HDD or that usb is not going to boot and start setup...and i think that is the problem...

http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/upload...8/09/image4.png
(this picture is not my bios settings..but i wanted to show what bios setting i'm talking about....so..i need to put usb in front of 2 HDD in that setting like in picture )


this is windows 7 boot.ini ( funny thing i don't see windows 7 anywhere..only xp....and i'm writing this msg from windows 7 )

;
;Warning: Boot.ini is used on Windows XP and earlier operating systems.
;Warning: Use BCDEDIT.exe to modify Windows Vista boot options.
;
[boot loader]
timeout=1
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT




Please help, thank you

This post has been edited by Ognjeni: 23 November 2009 - 07:45 AM



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Posted 23 November 2009 - 08:08 AM

I don't get it.

The screenshot you posted is about an UNFORMATTED "free space".

Is it now formatted?


AND re-partitioned?


You have (from the screenshot) an a-typical installation, where first partition (intended as partition that occupies the space nearest to the beginning of Disk 1) is a Logical Volume inside a WHOLE Extended partition that spans over the whole Disk.

In other words, you are seemingly trying to install to a Logical Volume on a disk that has no Primary partitions.

However, let's get this straight:

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multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT

rdisk(1) means 2nd hard disk (since disks are numbered starting from 0)
partition(2) means 2nd partition (since partitions are numbered from 1)

But the above numbering (of disks) will increase by one when you boot from the USB, i.e. THE SAME above will become, when booted from USB:

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multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT


You can try adding more entries to BOOT.INI, like (the foillowing are numbered in the case that the booted device is the USB stick and it is Disk 0):
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 1" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 2" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 3" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 4" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 1" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 2" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 3" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 4" /FASTDETECT


But, if you boot "normally" to your windows 7, what can you see in that partition (which files, which drive letter it gets, etc.) after the first part of the install ran?

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 23 November 2009 - 08:09 AM


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Posted 23 November 2009 - 08:51 AM

Thanks jaclaz....


here is the deal...i readed in some tutorial for creating partition for xp (on win 7 ) is to shrink desired hdd and leave that "free space" and than in XP setup, create partition from that "free space"..

as i recoll...i get G: letter for that partition....and some files ( i will try again now and take pic of it )

should i copy this boot.ini to my boot.ini and that try to instal xp ?

p.s. yes i can boot to windows 7 'normaly ' after failed xp setup...but each time i need to insert windows 7 disk and go to repair startup .....



* i tryed with code for boot.ini you gave me but same thing happend....here is the pic of that new 33gb partition after failed setup

http://i49.tinypic.com/qn0g13.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2jcudqo.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/1040ytx.jpg

This post has been edited by Ognjeni: 23 November 2009 - 09:44 AM


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Posted 23 November 2009 - 11:46 AM

@Ognjeni

If you are booting the second stage (GUI mode) from the USB stick, you'd need to modify BOTT.INI on the USB stick, NOT on the local hard disk.

Check FAQs as well:
http://www.msfn.org/...qs-t116766.html

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 05:19 AM

thanks but i dont know what to add to boot.ini..please help

this is boot.ini of my usb

[Boot Loader]
Timeout=10
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="2. GUI Mode Setup Windows XP, Continue Setup + Start XP" /FASTDETECT

C:\SETUPLDR.bs="1. TXT Mode Setup Windows XP, Never unplug USB-Drive Until After Logon"

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 11:55 AM

View PostOgnjeni, on Nov 24 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

thanks but i dont know what to add to boot.ini..please help

Are you reading this thread blindfolded? :w00t:

Try reading again (yes, take that blindfold off ;)) what I posted.

Change this:
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=10
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="2. GUI Mode Setup Windows XP, Continue Setup + Start XP" /FASTDETECT

into this:
[Boot Loader]
Timeout=10
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 1" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 2" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 3" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 4" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 1" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 2" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 3" /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(4)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 4" /FASTDETECT


Try choosing each item until you find one that works.
I would try this one first :whistle: :

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multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(2)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 1 part 2" /FASTDETECT


jaclaz

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