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Trace Windows 7 boot/shutdown/hibernate/standby/resume issues

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I have no real idea. Contact the Microsoft support to get support about your issue.


OK, thanks anyway!


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Hello MagicAndre1981, I can see you are into figuring out issues with boot and shutdown. Well, I have a frustrating situation with my shutdown, It is something that I installed but I don't change my installs very often so it confuses me on WHAT could be the issue.

I ran the tests you suggested and what I came back with was something I can't read into very well. Can you take a look? I think it has something to do with either Utorrent or maybe even STEAM..I can't figure it out. report Pm'd the pass.

Edited by dmntd, 26 December 2012 - 05:00 PM.


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 <timing shutdownTime="17918" servicesShutdownDuration="5069">

Windows takes 18s to shutdown. Stopping the services takes 5s:

Here I can only see that the services.exe takes over 4s to close. And I think it is the Skype service:

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Also Superfetch takes some time to stop.

Closing all running programs in your user session takes over 9s:

<sessionShutdown sessionID="1" startTime="322" endTime="9775" duration="9453">

Here is steam the cause:

<shutdownProcess name="Steam.exe" shutdownStartTime="4108" shutdownEndTime="8317" processEndTime="8310" shutdownDuration="4209"

steam takes over 4s to close.
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Hello! Thanks so much for your great help to everyone! Please allow me to join in the fun. =)
I have installed the hotfixes you have listed, installed WPT, and attempted to run the verbosereadyboot thing that reboots 7 times... Although, that fails after rebooting the 2nd or 3rd time and says it can't wait for...prefetcher? anymore and gives up. I've tried it twice. So, no I am here to see if you could provide me with some personalized help to speed my bootup time! I have uploaded my trace file and PMd you the link and hopefully haven't missed out any details that I'm supposed to give you.
Thanks so much!
Andrew

Edited by adnedarn, 05 January 2013 - 06:33 PM.


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about he error check this:

http://social.msdn.m...cf-f0ca25b4b33a

Your boot is slow because the disk is busy all the time. 1st, check if your WDC WD3200JS runs in AHCI mode and next, try to uninstall ZoneAlarm. Also don't install the AMD CCC, it is a .net application and is slow to start. I can also see that the QBCFMonitorService and Windows Image Acquisition services (stisvc) start very slowly.

This maybe also related to the high activity.
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Thanks! I'll look into the errors thing and see about re-running it. You are correct- my HDD stays active for a long time when I boot up.... I've moved my HDD to AHCI in BIOS, uninstalled ZoneAlarm, uninstalled AMD CCC, and disabled QBFMonitorService. I left Windows IMage Acquisition service since I do use my scanner/webcam/cameras often. (If I understand that service correctly I need those). Startup still seems super slow I've sent a new trace.
THANK YOU!
Andrew

Edited by adnedarn, 06 January 2013 - 10:53 AM.


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yes, boot is still slow. What I can see is that the enumeration of the IDE drives takes over 10s:

pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\4+3803e7e3+0+1" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="362" endTime="11862" duration="11501" prePendTime="0" description="IDE Channel" friendlyName="ATA Channel 1" />


Which IDE devices do you have connected?

The disk is still the issue. It is busy during boot nearly all the time. Remove as much as tools as you can.

A possible solution would be using a SSD as systemdrive and use the HDD only to store data on it.
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I see, Maybe I changed the sata settings for the wrong controller, I will double check (there are two on this motherboard). By tools do you mean spyware/antivirus/optimization stuff? I don't think there are anymore on here. I only had zonealarm and malwarebytes- malwarebytes I had removed a few days ago. For hardware I have a 1 dvd drive, 1 dvd rw, 1 floppy drive, 1 sata HDD, video card, audio card.
Thanks,
Andrew


Yep, I activated it on the wrong sata plugs.... So I did the other and got BSOD. Maybe I'll try plugging the drive into the other sata plug and see what that does.

Edited by adnedarn, 06 January 2013 - 01:14 PM.


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I mean remove all programs that you don't really need. If you need the all, buy a SSD. Your HDD is too slow to handle them all.
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Hi Magic and many thanks for helping us improving our computers!
I found you when searching for ways to reduce the boot time and I did it! from about 120 secs to about 30 secs... (I load avast after all services and I made also a few similar tweaks for Teamviewer etc.).

I still have two issues though:

1. I can't reduce the time needed for resuming from hibernation.... It's resuming in about 70 secs now...
First of all I had about 180 secs, then I stopped the superfetch service and got 70 secs... I made a few tweaks thanks to you and I re-enabled superfetch and managed to keep the 70 secs time.
My hibernation file is half of RAM (4/2=2 GB). and RAM in use is 1.5 GB when I put it to hibernate. I tried also the 100% and 75% size and the difference in resuming speed is pretty low if among them.
I still think it's too much time though only to resume from hibernation and first of all I would like to know only if it's possible to reduce it.

2. I don't have any event in the event viewer - windows - diagnostics performance - operational...They stopped logging one year ago, I cleared them, did all sort of things I found out on the internet but without success...
Also when opening the event file from Windows Prefetch/Ready boot folder it says I have some events lost and I should run some help query in the commander prompt (pretty useless), then the program is having a problem and it closes.
I had some time ago several partitions of my drive formatted by Mac Os and and LinuxOpenSuse, maybe they interfered with the MBR and that's why the problems? The respective time I was using a GRUB 2 bootloader.
In order to hibernate again I gave up both of them and everything is formatted in NTFS now.

My computer is a MSI G41M4-F MB with Intel G41 chipset, E5700 DualCore processor, 4 GB of RAM, 1 TB Sata II, Realtek Network/Sound, GeForce GT 7300.

Thank you in advance!

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Generate the hibernation XML and look at the suspend, resume and hibernation file read/write times. What is slow?
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thanks, i've generated it.
where should I look at?

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attach the XML here, please.
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pls find it attached. ;)

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reading the hibernation file is slow:

hiberread="90076000"

Is your HDD running in AHCI mode?
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I believe not as I don't find any option in Bios and I already updated it several days ago. :(

also the MSI doesn't tell anything as far as my level of understading... I still have SATA II but I don't know whether also AHCI.
can you please check: MSI G41M4-F is the Mobo.

should I reinstall the OS and choose AHCI when installing? (if it's possible, otherwise I leave it this way).
Thanks for advice.

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ok, your board has the ICH7, which doesn't support AHCI :(

Try to update the BIOS, maybe this helps.
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:(
still happy with the boot time. :) so no more hiberfil. :)
thank you very much!

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How long does it boot? Run the boot trace and look at the boot XML. YOu can try the hotfixes from here:

http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=152622

and optimize boot if the ReadyBoot graph shows a lot of black:

http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=140262
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<timing pnpSystemStartDuration="578" pnpSystemStartEndTime="6076" pnpSystemStartStartTime="5498" pnpBootStartDuration="3621" pnpBootStartEndTime="3657" pnpBootStartStartTime="36" postBootDisturbance="9223372001875" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" osLoaderDuration="7514" bootDoneViaPostBoot="-1" bootDoneViaExplorer="24979">

I think it's OK. ;) Cheers!

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25s to boot to desktop. But you've stopped the trace to early to see how long it takes to boot completely.
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<timing pnpSystemStartDuration="412" pnpSystemStartEndTime="4600" pnpSystemStartStartTime="4188" pnpBootStartDuration="3009" pnpBootStartEndTime="3044" pnpBootStartStartTime="35" postBootDisturbance="18300" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" osLoaderDuration="7706" bootDoneViaPostBoot="51623" bootDoneViaExplorer="23323">

this is another try ;)
I think it's great as I have avast7, teatimer, teamviewer and a few other programs/services in startup and only a sata II hard disk...
for the moment I'll stick to this configuration as it doesn't make sense to change only the motherboard... I'll go for another computer in the near future though.

thank you very much for you effort... you have a beer from me.
cheers!

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ok, Windows is fully booted in 4s. This is ok, if you run a lot of software.
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Hi
New to forum but have a very slow starting up PC, boots to logon screen in 20 -30 secs but then takes up to 4 mins to logon. If PC is turned on and left for few minutes it logs on quicker so am assuming it is a cumputer startup problem but not sure how to read the xml file.

Thanks for any helpAttached File  summary_boot.xml   177.55KB   3 downloads

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Starting Oracle and other services (McAfee) takes a very long time.

<serviceTransition name="OracleServiceXE" group="" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="192069" 
<serviceTransition name="ProcTrigger" group="" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="176487"

<serviceTransition name="McShield" group="" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="48951"

stop the autostart of this service (services.msc).

Edited by MagicAndre1981, 30 January 2013 - 02:12 PM.

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