[jaclaz]

asmodeus, on 31 July 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

Anyway, thanks for pointing that out! I guess I'll have to remember to unload RAM disk before each reboot.

Or maybe you could try using another Ramdisk, there are several freeware ones.

A list is here:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=1507

jaclaz

[Prodeje79]

MagicAndre1981, on 27 July 2010 - 01:07 PM, said:

@Prodeje79

You have to make a new trace. The trace is incomplete

http://rapidshare.co...8100/trace2.zip
same password
thanks!

EDIT: File was over 50mb so I could not use the existing site.
I tried rapid share for the first time, but I do not think it worked.
I will report back with a working link soon.

EDIT2: OK I am giving up on rapid share, it keeps saying the links expired even right after I do it.
So I used Winrar to limt to 50mb, and here it is:
http://cid-5f415a3ae...C/trace2rar.rar

This post has been edited by Prodeje79: 02 August 2010 - 11:48 AM

[asmodeus]

jaclaz, on 01 August 2010 - 05:04 AM, said:

asmodeus, on 31 July 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

Anyway, thanks for pointing that out! I guess I'll have to remember to unload RAM disk before each reboot.

Or maybe you could try using another Ramdisk, there are several freeware ones.

A list is here:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=1507

jaclaz

thanks, I'll check it out. My primary reason for using Dataram RAMdisk was that it uses a file as a disk container and has periodic autosave. But those are probably not that rare, at least I hope so.

[xynder]

ANDRE:

Please examine. I'm getting slow shutdowns (I traced boot and shutdown though). I emailed you the RAR password (same for both).

http://cid-ed4fc981b...=GetSharingLink

[MagicAndre1981]

xynder, on 01 August 2010 - 03:18 PM, said:

ANDRE:

Please examine. I'm getting slow shutdowns

ok, I've checked the traces and can't find any slowness.

Your boot takes 14s to the desktop and 18s till all startup programs are loaded.

Your 4GHz i7 and the SSD are doing a good job.

The shutdown is also fast. It takes 10s (5s to stop the services and 3.6 to stop the running programs, the rest is shutdown the kernel).

There is nothing to worry. Everything is fast and fine.

André

[MagicAndre1981]

Prodeje79, on 01 August 2010 - 12:25 PM, said:

http://rapidshare.co...8100/trace2.zip

From what I see, the winloginInit phase takes too long:



After opening the trace with the viewer I saw this:



Do you see the avg.sys files? The take to long to load. This is the driver of the AVG AntiVirus software. Which version do you use? Try to remove it.

André

[xynder]

MagicAndre1981, on 01 August 2010 - 03:59 PM, said:

xynder, on 01 August 2010 - 03:18 PM, said:

ANDRE:

Please examine. I'm getting slow shutdowns

ok, I've checked the traces and can't find any slowness.

Your boot takes 14s to the desktop and 18s till all startup programs are loaded.

Your 4GHz i7 and the SSD are doing a good job.

The shutdown is also fast. It takes 10s (5s to stop the services and 3.6 to stop the running programs, the rest is shutdown the kernel).

There is nothing to worry. Everything is fast and fine.

André

So why do errors keep generating in the performance log?

[MagicAndre1981]

can you please export the event log entries and upload them?

[Prodeje79]

MagicAndre1981, on 01 August 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

Prodeje79, on 01 August 2010 - 12:25 PM, said:

http://rapidshare.co...8100/trace2.zip

From what I see, the winloginInit phase takes too long:

<<SNIP>>

Do you see the avg.sys files? The take to long to load. This is the driver of the AVG AntiVirus software. Which version do you use? Try to remove it.

André

Wow that rapidshare worked i guess! Here is the Skydrive link unless you are sure it worked ok....
http://cid-5f415a3ae...C/trace2rar.rar

OK I will remove AVG Free. This is my mother-in-laws PC, what free AV would you put on a relative's PC?
I was thinking about trying that Panda Cloud AntiVirus....

I figured out what makes it finally load the login screen....
Once the PC goes into sleep/hibernate/suspend or whatever, I move the mouse to wake it up and the screen then loads.
I changed the power setting from 30 mins to 15 mins, and now it reboots faster to the login screen.

Thanks again!

[MagicAndre1981]

use Avira AntiVir or Microsoft Security Essentials

[Strawgate]

Anyway you could take a look at this?

http://cid-61658142b...ce%20August.rar
The password on the .rar file is home

[MagicAndre1981]

Hi,

n your case the ExplorerInit phase takes most time. What I can see, is that the Prefetcher is not working correctly. Run the optimization, I shown here please:

http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=140262

If it's still not faster, make a new trace.

[Prodeje79]

Prodeje79, on 02 August 2010 - 11:46 AM, said:

MagicAndre1981, on 01 August 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

Prodeje79, on 01 August 2010 - 12:25 PM, said:

http://rapidshare.co...8100/trace2.zip

From what I see, the winloginInit phase takes too long:

<<SNIP>>

Do you see the avg.sys files? The take to long to load. This is the driver of the AVG AntiVirus software. Which version do you use? Try to remove it.

André

Wow that rapidshare worked i guess! Here is the Skydrive link unless you are sure it worked ok....
http://cid-5f415a3ae...C/trace2rar.rar

OK I will remove AVG Free. This is my mother-in-laws PC, what free AV would you put on a relative's PC?
I was thinking about trying that Panda Cloud AntiVirus....

I figured out what makes it finally load the login screen....
Once the PC goes into sleep/hibernate/suspend or whatever, I move the mouse to wake it up and the screen then loads.
I changed the power setting from 30 mins to 15 mins, and now it reboots faster to the login screen.

Thanks again!

OK
Removed AVG. This trace was without any AV installed. I then installed the Microsoft product you recommended.
The trace without any AV still had the same issue of taking 30 minutes to boot. So perhaps my thoughts on the 30-15 min hibernation is wrong. Or my niece/nephew moved the mouse about 14 minutes into it. It is just a black screen with the white mouse than can move around.
This seems directly linked to hibernation as it works immediately after hibernating and back on?

http://cid-5f415a3ae...asPC/trace3.rar
same password as before.
Thanks!!

[Strawgate]

Thanks for the quick reply!
I found that link shortly after posting the trace, and did the optimization, I did it again for good measure. Here is the new trace, it does not look as though much has improved.

New trace
http://cid-61658142b...mized%20New.rar

MagicAndre1981, on 10 August 2010 - 04:37 AM, said:

Hi,

n your case the ExplorerInit phase takes most time. What I can see, is that the Prefetcher is not working correctly. Run the optimization, I shown here please:

http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=140262

If it's still not faster, make a new trace.

[MagicAndre1981]

Prodeje79, on 10 August 2010 - 05:40 AM, said:

Removed AVG. This trace was without any AV installed. I then installed the Microsoft product you recommended.
The trace without any AV still had the same issue of taking 30 minutes to boot. So perhaps my thoughts on the 30-15 min hibernation is wrong. Or my niece/nephew moved the mouse about 14 minutes into it. It is just a black screen with the white mouse than can move around.
This seems directly linked to hibernation as it works immediately after hibernating and back on?

http://cid-5f415a3ae...asPC/trace3.rar
same password as before.
Thanks!!

The ssdpsrv.dll (SSDP Service ) now uses most of your CPU time and causes a delay and a huge HDD IO activity in the WinLogOnInit Phase. Do you use devices which depends on SSDP or UPnP?

[MagicAndre1981]

Strawgate, on 10 August 2010 - 06:49 AM, said:

Thanks for the quick reply!
I found that link shortly after posting the trace, and did the optimization, I did it again for good measure. Here is the new trace, it does not look as though much has improved.

but it is!

I can now see, that you have 2 hanging services:

AudiEndpointMapper and TermService.

So update the Via sound drivers, please.

Next, the automatisc startup all the applications causes the slowdown. The trace was not able to capture all data, so remove all unneeded startup tools. use AutoRuns to disable them.

André

[Prodeje79]

MagicAndre1981, on 10 August 2010 - 07:30 AM, said:

Prodeje79, on 10 August 2010 - 05:40 AM, said:

Removed AVG. This trace was without any AV installed. I then installed the Microsoft product you recommended.
The trace without any AV still had the same issue of taking 30 minutes to boot. So perhaps my thoughts on the 30-15 min hibernation is wrong. Or my niece/nephew moved the mouse about 14 minutes into it. It is just a black screen with the white mouse than can move around.
This seems directly linked to hibernation as it works immediately after hibernating and back on?

http://cid-5f415a3ae...asPC/trace3.rar
same password as before.
Thanks!!

The ssdpsrv.dll (SSDP Service ) now uses most of your CPU time and causes a delay and a huge HDD IO activity in the WinLogOnInit Phase. Do you use devices which depends on SSDP or UPnP?

Hmmm I am not familiar with it. http://en.wikipedia....covery_Protocol
Just used for internet really. They do have a Sansa CLip mp3 player, same on I use on my home pc with identical OS.
Also they just got a ipod nano last weekend.
It is a newer western digital blue drive 640GB...
What should I try next?
The PC boots fine in safe mode.

[MagicAndre1981]

temporarily disable SSDP and UPnP and check if everything works fie

[mikhot]

Hi,

I'm having problems with hibernate, resuming from it is sloooow. After I wake the computer up to resume, it gives the message that Windows is resuming, after that I get a blinking dos-cursor, which stays on for a couple of minutes, during of which the pc does nothing. After that it resumes back to windows desktop. I've got the newest graphics, chipset, soundcard and bios drivers. The mobo is ASRock M3A790GXH/128M. I traced the procedure according to your instructions and here's the file if you've got the time to take a peek

http://rapidshare.co...ERS_POWER_1.rar

Password via pm. Thanks!

E: Couldn't send you any pm, just got a message telling you can't receive any more. Any other way to send you the password, email perhaps?

This post has been edited by mikhot: 11 August 2010 - 01:52 PM

[MagicAndre1981]

I deleted 1 conversation. Now you can send it