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How to speed up boot process under Windows Vista or Windows 7

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Hi Andre,

I have eliminated as much as I could from startup, first using autoruns.
Then I ran the comand as suggested in your first post which appeared to run fine, and reduced my boot time from 3.5 minutes to 2 ( according to soluto)

But when I run the command to generate the second xml file I get following warning, and the xml file is empty

xperf: warning: applying restriction of access for trace processing 7931 Events were lost in this trace. Data may be unreliable.....



Some potential issues,
1] The readyboost services doesnt appear in services list (services.exe)
although it does appear in the registry and its start command is set to 0

2] OS shows as win7RTM in the xbootmgr.log although it is actually win7 with sp1 (home premium x64, acer oem)

3] This is the only other susipcious line in the log (I think)
Failed to save prefetcher data (C:\Windows\prefetch\layout.ini) in cab archive (stage 1, error 0)


I carried the whole procedure 3 times and the result is the same everytime, any ideas to what the problem maybe?

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V

Edit:
The warning suggests increasing the MinBuffers, MaxBuffers and BufferSize for xperf, I tried this but I still get the warning

Edited by volting, 14 August 2011 - 05:35 PM.



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run sfc /scannow to detect missing/damaged Windows files.

Also install the (first 2) hotfixes from this topic:

http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=152622
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I had the first hotfix installed already, installed the second.. and I ran the sfc / scannow which didnt find any problems

I ran the trace for two reboots and checked the first etl file, which gave the same error as before (when trying to generate the second xml file ) upon opening.

Edited by volting, 15 August 2011 - 01:07 PM.


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in this case the HDD is the bottleneck and very busy. Open the etl with a doubleclick and look under the DISK IO graph which programs assess the HDD
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I check all the graphs but I dont see any mention of what applications are accessing the hdd.

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edit: Nevermind I see that you can right click the graph for more info, Ill check now...

Edited by volting, 15 August 2011 - 01:25 PM.


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yes, rightclick and select "Summary table". The green is ok. this is ReadyBoot which writes the prefetch data back to the HDD.
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Not really sure why avg shows up, as I dont have it set to start at boot, soluto appears to use alot so maybe I should remove that from the startup.

Im not really sure how much is normal usage for the system processes, maybe you can determine anomalies from the screenshot... the top 28 of 45 are included

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remove AVG and Soluto. Also expand the SYSTEM entry and look which files the system accesses.

Also, what is your HDD? Do you it it in AHCi or IDE/ATAPI mode?
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Ok Iv removed both Soluto and AVG, what do recommend instead of AVG ?

HDD is a 250GB 5400RPM Western Digital -- WDC WD2500BEVT-22A23T0
The laptop is fairly new so Id imagine its in sata mode, although Im not sure that I can verify this, I checked in the Bios, the mode is't explicitly stated there, although the drive is refered to as IDE0, but I think (hope) this is just poor choice of wording...
In the Device Manager under IDE ATA / ATAPI controllers there is only one entry,
an Intel SATA ACHI Controller, which Im guessing proves my assumuption to be correct.

As for the disk io, I expanded the system entry, the bigest offender is "Unknown" and doesnt show any more detail when expanded.


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look under the disk "Disk Utilization by process" which service now access the HDD most.

Unknown (0) is Superfetch which runs at low IO priority and doesn't impact the performance.
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I tried running the trace again but the problem persists.
I check the disk utilization graph, most of the io utilization is system which the majority is unknown(0) so no problem there,
next is svchost of which the vast majority is from readyboot

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can you zip the ETL, upload it to mediafire.com and send me the link via PM?
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Your Windows takes 25s to boot to the desktop and 45 to boot completely.

your 5400rpm WD HDD is the bottleneck. The prefetcher does its best to improve it. What I can see is that apache takes 13s to start. Set the start-type (also for MySQL) to "on demand" and start the 2 services after you booted completely to the desktop with (NET START Apache2.2, NET START mysql. looks like you use XAMPP, correct?). Also the Intel Management service (IAStorDataMgrSvc) takes 5s to start. This happens during the time where your HDD is completely busy.

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Indeed I have xampp, I changed both mysql and apache to manual start, and ran the trace again for 6 runs.

I timed the boot to the desktop with a stopwatch on my phone, takes 35 seconds to desktop, which is excellent considering it took about 3.5 mins before I started optimizing...

I had a feeling since I bought this laptop a few months ago that hdd was a bottleneck and had been contemplating upgrading, think Ill get one of seagates hybrids

Thanks for all your time and help, your skill is legendary!

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Thanks for all your time and help


You're welcome.

your skill is legendary!


thanks :blushing:
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Hello Andrei. Thank you for this excellent tutorial. Haha. you're so great.

here is the improvement on my PC.

http://www.mediafire...0u8axdmzeyh63f3
http://www.mediafire...v9cwk0hs2dfbj7p

i guess that it is still slow. can you show what are the problems that may cause slowing down the boot of my PC.
I use windows 7 ultimate x64

a reply would be very much appreciated. Thank you!!!

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Hi Richard,

It improved the boot a lot!

before the optimization your Windows booted in 117s to the desktop and now in 25s!!!

Open the bootPrep_BASE+CSWITCH_1.etl and look at the ReadyBoot graph. All was black. Totally broken!

Attached File  Prefetcher.png   15.33KB   6 downloads

The optimization improved it a lot.

After the optimization the start of some services is still slow:

In your case Avast! AV which takes 33s to start.

avast! Antivirus" group="ShellSvcGroup" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="33906"

and the this Autodesk service:

="Autodesk Content Service" group="" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="15232"

Attached File  hanging_services.png   57.82KB   13 downloads

So try a different AV tool and look if you need the Autodesk service.
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Wow. Thank you very much Andrei. You're really great! Haha.

you're really good when it comes to this.


Hope you can help more people. :DD

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can I ask again? you said that we must not use any defragmentation program except for the MS tool because they places file at a different offset on HDD.

What can you say about the option in Auslogics Disk Defrag which is "Defrag" only?

from what I understand, it only defrags all the files but all those will stay where it is.

I'm thinking of using it with the MS tool.

I'll only use MS tool if i will optimize my HDD. but when it comes to defragging, i'll use Auslogics'.

do you think it's okay?


I just like the Auslogics disk defrag because of its fast defragmentation (using only Defrag option) compared to other defragmentation programs.
but if it will not do, i'll only use the MS tool.

Thanks for all your help. :DD

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ohh i forgot to ask about it.

what AV can you recommend that will make our PC boot faster?

do you think MSE is good?
is it better than avast when it comes to boot?

thank you, again and again . :D

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all other defrag tools are crap and SLOW down Windows!

Test other AV tools. For me MSE is also slow. Try Avira AntiVir as a free AV.
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all other defrag tools are crap and SLOW down Windows!

Test other AV tools. For me MSE is also slow. Try Avira AntiVir as a free AV.


ohh. okay. thanks :D hahaha. okay i'll consider Avira. XDD

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and? is Avira better or do you still have a delay?
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Hi there guys.Perfect tutorial that helped me a lot!

I have a quick question though.

Before i format my compturer(and before i even know the existance of this forum,hence the tutorial) my reboot time(i say reboot because i used to mesure my reboot time via a .bat script) was 51 sec.
Now after the format and after all the instranctions that i followed correctly(even installed the hotfixes) my reboot time is 55sec.

So i'm asking you what can i do to drop below 51 sec that i had before format and before even touching the prefetch etc etc.

Here is the link that my boot time is right now.

http://www.mediafire...b4f6n9c3hz2gno2

Thanks in advanced.




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