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#221 User is offline   sirbuctin 

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 12:19 AM

Thank you very much MagicAndre1981

I will try to find a good driver, maybe from other mobo or chipset that would match, cause for my mobo i have the latest driver from the gigabyte support website.
I will try to contact amd support if i`l not find any good driver..

Again, thank you for your time and for helping, i will post back when i`ll get new drivers.


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Posted 04 April 2011 - 09:40 AM

Hello Andre..

I Found a raid driver that fixed the problem with the 10s enum.
Now its loading storport.sys from second 0 to 1 and another storport.sys (i do not know why needs 2 storport.sys) from second 1 to 2,
Then waits about 2,5 seconds until begin loading anything, (better than those 10 seconds).
But i can't find out why it does not loading the next steps wright befor enum at second 2, why it waits until second 4,5 ??!
And another question is, why there are so white spaces betwen procesess, as i see in the file, the proceses are started and finished in about the same time, what delays the next process !?
The total time is about 14 seconds, i want to cut those delays when it does nothing, just siting in idle !?
I have uploaded the results to take a look on http://allschematics.com/result.zip
Thanks

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Posted 04 April 2011 - 04:47 PM

hi, your Windows is no very fast.

it boots in 14s to the desktop and is booted completely in 14.5 seconds.

The IDE channel 0 enum causes the 2.5 seconds delay.

- <phase name="bootStart" startTime="25" endTime="4845" duration="4820">
  <pnpObject name="PCIIDE\IDEChannel\4+25242dfa+0+0" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="1996" endTime="4497" duration="2501" prePendTime="0" description="IDE Channel" friendlyName="ATA Channel 0" /> 



Which devices have you connected to the ATA Channel 0?

André

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 12:29 AM

Hello Andre,

I have on IDE-0 a normal 7200rpm HDD. I do not have cd-rom, or dvd-rom.
I was thinking that that hdd will be, but i disabled from bios the ide channel, and nothing changed...
There still was 2 storports, and there still was the delay from second 2 to 4, so i`ve enabled it again..
No change in delays with or without the ide hdd.
Also if u look in drivers delay, some are loading on second ~6 , some on second ~10, some on second ~12.
But what he is doing between second 6 and 10 ?! or betwen 10 and 12 ?!
All the services i see them starting and finishing at sec 12, what delays them not loading earlyer !?
i think my cpu and ram can handle them easy and earlyer,
How much seconds to boot you consider to be a "fast boot" ?!
Can be the cause my hdd speeds !? my raid have an average of 7ms access time.
Thanks.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 01:02 AM

You were RIGHT Sir.
I had nothing on IDE-0 , but i had IDE-0 and IDE-1 in device manager.
So i disabled those 2 ide and the pci ide connector too, and now the delay has gone.
Check for the new test at http://allschematics.com/result.zip
What else can i do to reduce the boot time !? Is there any drivers that delays boot !?
Thank you Sir.

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 05:31 AM

you now boot in 9s to the desktop. the end is not in the trace. have you interrupted the trace?

The only thing I see is that the WRITING Cache of the HDDs is disabled. Is this done by the newer driver?

Please also install the Sp1, you use a Win7 RTM with an old Security patch for the kernel:

7600.16481.x86fre.win7_gdr.091207-1941

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 07:51 AM

Hello Andre,

Yes i click "Finish" after about 5 sec after i am in desktop, but i am shure that everything is loaded...
The chace was disabled by me, i thought it was faster without the cache.
Now i have enable the chace, the result is about the same.
I Have uploaded at the same link for u to take a look, but to me it seems the the same.
I will install SP1 and post some results.
Thanks

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Posted 05 April 2011 - 08:12 AM

Install the Sp1, run the optimization again and make a new trace and don't hit finish. Let Windows count down the 120s. give me the latest trace.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 07:29 AM

Hi.

Where did i make mistake when i get this message?

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I have Win 7 x64 sp1

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 07:47 AM

you must install the wpt_x64.msi first.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 12:22 PM

I did.
I did not get any changes after 6 restarts. Sometimes i get 63sec sometimes 70sec.


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I use this script to see how many second need to be restarted completely:

Attached File(s)


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Posted 06 April 2011 - 12:30 PM

so your boot is not improved?

make a full trace:

http://www.msfn.org/...yresume-issues/

zip the ETL and upload the zip.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 12:39 PM

Nope :(

Do i need to follow this?

For boot tracing:
xbootmgr -trace boot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER -resultPath C:\TEMP



p.s. i edited post above.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 12:56 PM

don't use such nonsense scripts. generate the XML summary from the ETL and look at the values.

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 04:41 PM

View Postsirbuctin, on 05 April 2011 - 07:51 AM, said:

I will install SP1 and post some results.
Thanks


any news?

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 07:44 AM

Hi Andre,
can you help me with my boot time problem.
You can download my report here: http://sites.google....ummary_boot.zip

As you can see the complete boot time is : bootDoneViaPostBoot="292650"
Horribly slow
I did try to find what was the problem but unfortunatly I wasn't able to. I found that "diskIO" takes a lot of time. Especially on <file name="Unknown (0x0)" ???

Thanks for your help

Mathieu

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 08:07 AM

"Unknown (0x0)" is the Superfetch prefetcher.

 <notification type="Logon" sessionId="1" startTime="57698" endTime="78834" duration="21135">
  <subscriber name="Profiles" startTime="57698" endTime="78106" duration="20407" />


you have a 20s delay in logon to the PC. Is the PC domain joined?

also the ExplorerInit and PostBoot is slow. How many tools do you start at boot? reduce them with AutoRuns.

Also zip and upload the ETL.

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 09:19 AM

Thanks for taking time to help me.
The PC is in a domain
Config: Intel Core 2 Quad 2.66Mgz. 8Gb of RAM. Windows 7 Pro x64.

The ETL is huge so I had to split it in two files

File 1:
http://fxjoya.bay.li...download&psid=1

File 2
http://fxjoya.bay.li...download&psid=1

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 12:43 PM

the group policies take too long:

the GP start at 37s and end at 84.2s. So this is the cause of a longer delay.

Also starting all services takes very long:

 <services autoStartStartTime="32082" autoStartEndTime="86115" autoStartDuration="54033">





reduce the loaded services and applications and check the group policies.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 05:22 AM

Just wanted to say thanks! This thread saved my sanity -- I was at the end of my rope after having reinstalled windows twice and the information I found here (and a few days of fiddling with drivers and running tests over and over again) is what fixed my boot-up/hibernation/resume issues.

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