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#241 User is offline   klx 

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 05:12 PM

Could you take a look at my log?

I saw the improvement but a full 45s seems long enough compared to my 32-bits, same softwares loading at the startup.

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 06:09 PM

Would you mind analyzing my summary report and making recommendations to speed up my boot time?


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Posted 22 April 2011 - 05:29 AM

View Postklx, on 21 April 2011 - 05:12 PM, said:

Could you take a look at my log?

I saw the improvement but a full 45s seems long enough compared to my 32-bits, same softwares loading at the startup.

Thank you.


the issue is your Marvell 61xx RAID Controller:

- <phase name="bootStart" startTime="28" endTime="13776" duration="13748">
  <pnpObject name="PCI\VEN_11AB+DEV_6121+SUBSYS_82A21043+REV_B2\4+1ad356c7+0+00E4" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="5886" endTime="12169" duration="6283" prePendTime="0" description="Marvell 61xx RAID Controller" friendlyName="" /> 
  <pnpObject name="PCI\VEN_11AB+DEV_6121+SUBSYS_82A21043+REV_B2\4+1ad356c7+0+00E4" type="Device" activity="Start" startTime="2851" endTime="5885" duration="3033" prePendTime="3033" description="Marvell 61xx RAID Controller" friendlyName="" /> 



it takes 9s to enumerate the connected devices. Because of this the PreSMSS phase takes 16s. Update the drivers, please. Which devices do you connect to the Marvel Controller?

Also starting all programs at startup takes 10s.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 05:36 AM

View PostHebram, on 21 April 2011 - 06:09 PM, said:

Would you mind analyzing my summary report and making recommendations to speed up my boot time?


Regards


the WinLogonInit takes tooo long:

<interval name="WinlogonInit" startTime="28142" endTime="1421495" duration="1393353">


I can see that the services start slowly:

- <services autoStartStartTime="38746" autoStartEndTime="200063" autoStartDuration="161317">


I can see that the VPNservice takes 11s to start:

<serviceTransition name="vpnagent" group="TDI" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="11953"

the CarboniteService takes 9 s to start:

serviceTransition name="CarboniteService" group="" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="8911"

the .net 3.0 Fontache service takes long to start:

serviceTransition name="FontCache3.0.0.0" group="" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="15376"

But this service is taking 2 minutes to start:

serviceTransition name="hpqddsvc" group="" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="119265" firstCheckpointTimeDelta="130" processingTimeDelta="119135" container="hpdevmgmt svchost (2664)"

it looks like a HP service.

To see more details, make afull boot trace and compress the boot_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.etl as 7z or RAR and upload it to mediafire.com and post a link here.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 08:22 AM

Andre:

I ended up removing alot of software that I don't need anymore and ran another optimization. See below for the new summaries:

http://www.mediafire...3y6rvz87djrxddf
http://www.mediafire...5o5go65o69nkn78


Here is a full boot trace made after the optimization above:

http://www.mediafire...6hg4c8mtmv8b1u2


Thank you for your assistance,

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 09:58 AM

your HDD is busy all the time. Do you connect the HDD to the marvel chip?

you still have a lot of tools/services running (Lenovo tools, Windows Home Server tools, HP driver tools, Intel tools, Acrobat speedstart, JAVA Updater, Windows Live Messenger). Reduce the number much more

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 10:15 AM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on 22 April 2011 - 09:58 AM, said:

your HDD is busy all the time. Do you connect the HDD to the marvel chip?

you still have a lot of tools/services running (Lenovo tools, Windows Home Server tools, HP driver tools, Intel tools, Acrobat speedstart, JAVA Updater, Windows Live Messenger). Reduce the number much more


This is a Lenovo laptop. The HDD is connected to an onboard Intel 5 Series 6 SATA controller.

I will try to reduce the number of tools and post another summary.

Your assistance is greatly appreciated.


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Posted 22 April 2011 - 11:48 AM

ok, the marvel was the other user.

remove all unneeded software from startup with AutoRuns.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 04:15 PM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on 22 April 2011 - 11:48 AM, said:

ok, the marvel was the other user.

remove all unneeded software from startup with AutoRuns.


Here are my latest results after cleaning up more software.

http://www.mediafire...j5psvcx5829yxkx
[http://www.mediafire...x3v50elr03qcc2c

Even with a 59 sec boot, there still seems room for improvement. Any suggestions? (Edit: I neglected to subtract the postBootRequiredIdleTime of 10 seconds. That would put me at a 49 second boot. Is this about the best I can expect?)


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Posted 22 April 2011 - 04:24 PM

Double post.

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Posted 22 April 2011 - 06:06 PM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on 22 April 2011 - 05:29 AM, said:

the issue is your Marvell 61xx RAID Controller:

- <phase name="bootStart" startTime="28" endTime="13776" duration="13748">
  <pnpObject name="PCI\VEN_11AB+DEV_6121+SUBSYS_82A21043+REV_B2\4+1ad356c7+0+00E4" type="Device" activity="Enum" startTime="5886" endTime="12169" duration="6283" prePendTime="0" description="Marvell 61xx RAID Controller" friendlyName="" /> 
  <pnpObject name="PCI\VEN_11AB+DEV_6121+SUBSYS_82A21043+REV_B2\4+1ad356c7+0+00E4" type="Device" activity="Start" startTime="2851" endTime="5885" duration="3033" prePendTime="3033" description="Marvell 61xx RAID Controller" friendlyName="" /> 



it takes 9s to enumerate the connected devices. Because of this the PreSMSS phase takes 16s. Update the drivers, please. Which devices do you connect to the Marvel Controller?

Also starting all programs at startup takes 10s.


I did install the lastest Marvell driver when I installed this Windows.
However, I don't use RAID (only one HDD). Should I just disable it?

Also, the startup programs are all necessary for me at the startup, alas I need to deal with this 10s delay.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 04:57 AM

View PostHebram, on 22 April 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

I neglected to subtract the postBootRequiredIdleTime of 10 seconds. That would put me at a 49 second boot. Is this about the best I can expect?)


if you really need all tools at startup this is the best time you can get because the startup tools delay your boot for 20s:

postBootDisturbance="20200"



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Posted 23 April 2011 - 04:58 AM

View Postklx, on 22 April 2011 - 06:06 PM, said:

I did install the lastest Marvell driver when I installed this Windows.
However, I don't use RAID (only one HDD). Should I just disable it?

Also, the startup programs are all necessary for me at the startup, alas I need to deal with this 10s delay.


If you don't connect devices to the Marvel chip, disable it.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 06:05 AM

Alright, I did what you said and disabled it.
It was still being listed in the log, should i run the xbootmgr again?

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 06:22 AM

yes, run it again and look if you still have the delays.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 07:15 AM

While I disabled the Marvell Controller in my BIOS, Windows will simply not let me uninstall it.
The device is not even listed in my Device Manager list anymore, and if I try to uninstall by using the Marvell uninstaller or by using the Device Manager (Enabling the Marvell Controller again), Windows will not boot and will run a repair session where the driver is restored.
This driver was not even installed when I installed Windows, why the hell is it bitching about a driver no longer being used?

The driver in question is mv61xx.sys on system32.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 08:09 AM

activate the chip again and disable the marvel chip in the device manager.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 08:23 AM

Disabling it was never the problem, uninstalling it was.
Also, I disabled the chip in my BIOS to avoid it delaying the BIOS post (and with incorrect information about my HDD). It does however, not recognize my DVD-RW since the Marvell IDE Controller is not enabled. I rarely use it anyway, not worth having that huge delay for using it once every 6 months, if I need it I'll just re-enable in the BIOS.

Anyway here is the newest log.
I did check it and it was reduced to around 34s for a full boot, and the Marvell RAID Controller wasn't listed. If you could take another look, i would appreciate it.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 09:37 AM

it is faster now:

timing bootDoneViaExplorer="14697" bootDoneViaPostBoot="34697" postBootDisturbance="10000"



boot to desktop in 14.7s and booting completely is done in 24.7 seconds.

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Posted 23 April 2011 - 09:48 AM

I'll assume you found no other problems then.

A huge thank you for your help.
Now i can boot my system without needing to eat breakfast first.

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