[MagicAndre1981]

I need a complete boot trace (the ETL file) to see more details. But the 24s are fine.

[klx]

Alright then.

http://www.mediafire...mbz2uni7lrsc5k7

[MagicAndre1981]

don't use TuneUp, run ngen install to compile the ATI CCC to native code, this improves the starttime of the ATI CCC. The rest is ok, the prefetcher is trained well with the prepSystem option.

[Hebram]

MagicAndre1981, on 23 April 2011 - 04:57 AM, said:

Hebram, on 22 April 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

I neglected to subtract the postBootRequiredIdleTime of 10 seconds. That would put me at a 49 second boot. Is this about the best I can expect?)

if you really need all tools at startup this is the best time you can get because the startup tools delay your boot for 20s:

postBootDisturbance="20200"

Where in the summary can I find the software that is calculated in the postBootDisturbance?

[MagicAndre1981]

this can't be read from the XML. I can only see the value

[Hebram]

Thank you. I read it over a few times and couldn't find it an area clustering these processes.

I will see what I can do about slimming down startup items more. Already I am seeing a tremendous improvement in boot time. There are several packages that I need, such as Carbonite (offsite backup to cloud), Window Home Server (onsite backup to fileserver), and Truecrypt (whole disk encryption).

[klx]

Any reason for not using TuneUp?
I only use it for weekly maintenance in my gaming PC, such as deleting broken shortcuts, cleaning the registry, etc.
I generally don't use this kind of software, as you can see I don't have an anti virus installed. However, I don't have enough time to do those tasks manually anymore, and yes, I'm willing to waste a bit of boot time and RAM for this.
Most of my work is done through my Linux desktop, this desktop is for gaming only. Thus very few applications are installed.

By ngen do you mean ngen from .NET Framework? And if yes what's correct command line for CCC?

C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319>ngen install
Microsoft ® CLR Native Image Generator - Version 4.0.30319.1
Copyright © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Error: You must specify an assembly to install.

[Hebram]

On second thought, I can probably make a scheduled task that turns up the Windows Home Server services and launch the client shortly before it is needed for the nightly backup. I will tackle that after I ferret out more startup items.

[MagicAndre1981]

klx, on 23 April 2011 - 12:08 PM, said:

Any reason for not using TuneUp?
I only use it for weekly maintenance in my gaming PC, such as deleting broken shortcuts, cleaning the registry, etc.

this only damages the PC but improves NOTHING!

klx, on 23 April 2011 - 12:08 PM, said:

By ngen do you mean ngen from .NET Framework? And if yes what's correct command line for CCC?

C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319>ngen install
Microsoft ® CLR Native Image Generator - Version 4.0.30319.1
Copyright © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Error: You must specify an assembly to install.

C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319>ngen install "C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe"
C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319>ngen install "C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CCC.exe"

do this for MOM.exe, too. I don't know the correct path. I deleted the CCC on my system, because it's too slow.

Also what is this MemClean.exe? What does it? remove it.

[klx]

http://www.koshyjohn...tware/memclean/

I use it to manage my RAM usage in applications known to have heavy memory leaks *cough*Flight Simulator*cough*.
It's a good freeware tool. When the application doesn't have memory leaks, I simply disable the RAM cleaning.

As for the tasks, I'll have to disagree.
I lost count of how many applications i had to hunt down registry keys and AppData config because their weak uninstaller did not uninstall these.
I had an application crashing even after reinstalling, and found out it was the AppData config that wasn't deleted and was causing the crash.

As I said, this is a gaming PC. I constantly install/uninstall/reinstall games/mods/tools.
Leaving their leftovers because the uninstaller didn't do its job isn't such a great idea.

[MagicAndre1981]

no, TuneUp is useless, the only working version was TuneUp97 for Windows 95! All later TuneUp versions are real snakeoil to get money from users like you. Also the Memtool is uselees, it trims the workingset (forcing Windows to swap to the pagefile) but nothing more.

[klx]

Like I said, I use it for memory leak applications only.
MemClean prevents FS2004 from crashing due to the lack of available physical memory because of the amount of memory leaks the game have.

Do you have a suggestion for doing these tasks automatically (replacing TuneUp)?
Like i said before, I don't need a software to improve my performance or anything (I do all my configuration myself), but II do need one to do these simple tasks of cleaning my PC.

As for ngen install, it did work for both CCC.exe and MOM.exe, but i get this error with CLIStart.exe:

C:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework64\v4.0.30319>ngen install "C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe"
Microsoft ® CLR Native Image Generator - Version 4.0.30319.1
Copyright © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Installing assembly C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe
Uninstalling assembly C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe because of an error during compilation: Failed to load the runtime. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80131700).
Failed to load the runtime. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80131700)

And yes, Catalyst is one of the worst softwares i had laid my eye upon, i know it.
I do need it for some stuff though.

[MagicAndre1981]

I have no idea why it fails for CLIStart. I removed CCC completely and use MSI Afterburner to change the fan speed of my HD 5770 which is a native app and starts much faster.

if the tool fixes the crashes you can use it. You can create a script to delete all files from the temp folder and run this from the task scheduler.

[Hebram]

Hebram, on 23 April 2011 - 11:54 AM, said:

MagicAndre1981, on 23 April 2011 - 04:57 AM, said:

Hebram, on 22 April 2011 - 04:15 PM, said:

I neglected to subtract the postBootRequiredIdleTime of 10 seconds. That would put me at a 49 second boot. Is this about the best I can expect?)

if you really need all tools at startup this is the best time you can get because the startup tools delay your boot for 20s:

postBootDisturbance="20200"

Where in the summary can I find the software that is calculated in the postBootDisturbance?

I have made more modifications without affecting my backup clients, VPN client, or encryption software.

bootDoneViaPostBoot="42771" osLoaderDuration="2638" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" postBootDisturbance="2900"

This is a HUGE improvement over my original values:

bootDoneViaPostBoot="1489166" osLoaderDuration="2779" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" postBootDisturbance="48000"

I cannot thank enough for your time and advice in helping me resolve my infuriating boot times. Do you know of a resource for decrease shutdown times?


Hebram

This post has been edited by Hebram: 23 April 2011 - 02:16 PM

[MagicAndre1981]

Hebram, on 23 April 2011 - 02:04 PM, said:

I have made more modifications without affecting my backup clients, VPN client, or encryption software.

bootDoneViaPostBoot="42771" osLoaderDuration="2638" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" postBootDisturbance="2900"

This is a HUGE improvement over my original values:

bootDoneViaPostBoot="1489166" osLoaderDuration="2779" postBootRequiredIdleTime="10000" postBootDisturbance="48000"

I cannot thank enough for your time and advice in helping me resolve my infuriating boot times. Do you know of a resource for decrease shutdown times?

this is indeed a huge improvement.

follow my guide to make a xbootmgr shutdown trace and compress the shutdown_BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER_1.etl as 7z or RAR and upload it to mediafire.com.

[Hebram]

I will definately check this guide out.

[ConquestorHaki]

hey,

I have tried to install the Windows SDK but it failed, I've tried to figure out why it failed but I couldnt find the reason.

Can u help me?

Here is the logfile of the installation progress...

im from germany my english isnt perfect^^

My System:

Notebook Asus N82J
Win 7 Professional 64bit
Net Framework 4 installed

I couldn upload the whole logfile of the installation so I copied the part where the error appears
I hope you can help me


10:59:04 Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011: An error occurred installing the Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 package. Error: A file that is required cannot be installed because the cabinet file C:\Users\*********\AppData\Local\Temp\SDKSetup\WinSDK\WinSDK_amd64\cab1.cab has an invalid digital signature. This may indicate that the cabinet file is corrupt.
10:59:13 Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011: [SDKSetup:Error] Config_Products_Install: Installation of Product Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 (failed): Schwerwiegender Fehler bei der Installation. Stack: bei Microsoft.WindowsInstaller.Installer.InstallProduct(String packagePath, String commandLine) bei SDKSetup.Product.ConfigureNewProduct(ManualResetEvent CancelEvent)
10:59:13 Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011: [SDKSetup:Info] Config_Products_InstallNew: End installation of new product: Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7
10:59:40 Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011: [SDKSetup:Info] Successfully downloaded the file http://download.micr..._amd64\cab2.cab to C:\Users\*******\AppData\Local\Temp\SDKSetup\WinSDKTools\WinSDKTools_amd64\cab2.cab
10:59:40 Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011: [SDKSetup:Info] File succesfully downloaded - source:http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/A/B/7ABD2203-C472-4036-8BA0-E505528CCCB7/setup/WinSDKTools_amd64/cab2.cab target:file:///C:/Users/************/AppData/Local/Temp/SDKSetup/WinSDKTools/WinSDKTools_amd64/cab2.cab size:20146023
10:59:47 Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011: [SDKSetup:Info] Successfully downloaded the file http://download.micr..._amd64\cab1.cab to C:\Users\**********\AppData\Local\Temp\SDKSetup\WinSDKTools\WinSDKTools_amd64\cab1.cab
10:59:47 Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011: [SDKSetup:Info] File succesfully downloaded - source:http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/A/B/7ABD2203-C472-4036-8BA0-E505528CCCB7/setup/WinSDKTools_amd64/cab1.cab target:file:///C:/Users/*************/AppData/Local/Temp/SDKSetup/WinSDKTools/WinSDKTools_amd64/cab1.cab size:37785966
10:59:47 Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011: [SDKSetup:Error] Config_Products_Install: Windows SDK Setup (failed): Installation of the "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7" product has reported the following error: Schwerwiegender Fehler bei der Installation. Stack: bei SDKSetup.Product.ConfigureNewProduct(ManualResetEvent CancelEvent) bei SDKSetup.Product.SetupProduct(TaskMode taskMode, ManualResetEvent CancelEvent) bei SDKSetup.ProductCollection.SetupProducts(TaskMode taskMode, DownloadManager downloadManager, ManualResetEvent cancelEvent) bei SDKSetup.ConfigProducts.DoCurrentTask(TaskMode Task)

[MagicAndre1981]

the digital signature is broken. Install xperf from the Visual Studio Toolkit.

[ConquestorHaki]

Oh I just see ur from germany too, do u speak german?
if yes, could u explain me where I can find the Visual Studio Toolkit?

[MagicAndre1981]

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