[MagicAndre1981]

make a new trace please.

[vvmm]

Here is the new trace: http://ifile.it/2o036hc/trace.zip

[MagicAndre1981]

this time Kaspersky service (AVP) takes 17s to start. also the prefetcher is again completely broken (open the etl with a double click and look at the readyBoot graph and you see all is black and this is bad). Run the optimization again, please.

[vvmm]

Wow! Amazingly, the Welcome screen now loads in 10 seconds, but this is achieved only after I have ran optimization and with Kaspersky disabled. What should I do with Kaspersky's AVP? I have Kaspersky on other computers, but it doesn't slow my computers down.

[MagicAndre1981]

The WD5000BEVT is only a 5400rpm SATA 3 Gb/s HDD. And Kaspersky was always very slow for my opinion. I never used it because of the performance impact you have when using it.

Try other AV tools until you find one which doesn't impact the boot too much.

[vvmm]

Thank you very much for help! I hope that the startup will remain as fast as it is now.

[MagicAndre1981]

If it slows down again after some weeks run the optimization again.

[baconeater]

magicanndre I would be so grateful if you would look at my xml file. I can't figure out why my boot is so slow.

My computer takes 1:20 to boot.

my specs are:
Lenovo x120e
Crucial M4 64
6GB Ram

.utl and XML files

[MagicAndre1981]

baconeater, on 14 November 2011 - 11:52 AM, said:

magicanndre I would be so grateful if you would look at my xml file. I can't figure out why my boot is so slow.

Hi, restoring the networkconnections take tool long:

 reStore_Network_connection.png (22.82K)
Number of downloads: 63

This causes a 50s delay.

I use

net use /persistent:no 

in a CMD to mount network drives when I need them. This avoids such delays.

[draku]

Well the -prepSystem method works very good but its a lot of time comsuming in may case it took almost 40 minutes. The results are good but the optimization don't last forever.
I used WinPrefetchView (http://www.nirsoft.n...fetch_view.html) to look up in the NTOSBOOT-xxxxx.pf to see what Windows load at boot and also used the defrag C: /u /v -b for boot optimization.

Now i use a boot preloader wich makes my windows boot very fast everytime.

 screenshot.15-11-2011-03.25.33.jpg (28.59K)
Number of downloads: 36

P.S. I know it's my 1st post here so i deleted the bootloader name so you don't think i'm spamming , and because its beta and does not have singned driver for x64.

This post has been edited by draku: 14 November 2011 - 07:33 PM

[MagicAndre1981]

what is this? Is this a tool which is on the CD of your motherboard? I also have such an Tool from ASRock, but it never really worked for me.

[draku]

No its a software i found in some coments from reviews on hybrid hdd and ssd on anandtech i think. It works the same way ReadyBoot in Windows 7 should have worked. And also works on Windows XP and Vista. The only downside is that in order to install it in Windows 7 x64 i had to use Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider (http://www.ngohq.com...e.php?page=dseo) to put Windows in Testing Mode so i does not block its driver at boot and crash Windows (on readme it say to press F8 and chose disable driver signing in x64 but thats not an option). On 32bits it works without problems.

It works like this :

It install a driver wich monitor all the hdd sectors loaded at boot.After boot it takes all that sectors and put them in a prefetch.bin file wich load at next boot in memory. It monitors every boot so every time it adds or delete sectors from prefetch that does not match.In a way is like xbootmgr -trace boot

It work because its much faster to copy 1 big file in memory that to copy 10.000.... small files from all over the hdd =)

You can even set limits :
 screenshot.15-11-2011-23.18.jpg (23.51K)
Number of downloads: 6

I can write a little tutorial how to make it to work on x64 without problems if anyone is interested.

[MagicAndre1981]

have you made a normal xbootmgr trace with and without this 3rd party driver? What is the difference in boot time?

[draku]

This is from my Event Viewer ID 100:

SystemBootInstance 257
UserBootInstance 250
BootTime 44042
MainPathBootTime 26142
BootKernelInitTime 14
BootDriverInitTime 606
BootDevicesInitTime 1144
BootPrefetchInitTime 6837
BootPrefetchBytes 79327232
BootAutoChkTime 0
BootSmssInitTime 16286
BootCriticalServicesInitTime 421
BootUserProfileProcessingTime 321
BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 165
BootExplorerInitTime 982
BootNumStartupApps 14
BootPostBootTime 17900
BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 0
BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 0
BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 0
BootIsDegradation false
BootIsStepDegradation false
BootIsGradualDegradation false
BootImprovementDelta 0
BootDegradationDelta 0
BootIsRootCauseIdentified false
OSLoaderDuration 1648
BootPNPInitStartTimeMS 14
BootPNPInitDuration 1184
OtherKernelInitDuration 6308
SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS 7488
SystemPNPInitDuration 566
SessionInitStartTimeMS 8059
Session0InitDuration 14183
Session1InitDuration 232
SessionInitOtherDuration 1869
WinLogonStartTimeMS 24345
OtherLogonInitActivityDuration 327
UserLogonWaitDuration 1245

Time varies betwen 43 and 46 seconds in event id( wich from my knowing is bigger with 10 second than real since its waiting for iddle resources) even if i delete prefetch folder in Windows with loader.The only times its increase is when windows apply updates or i update drivers and then i saw is betwen 56-65 seconds. The worst time i got when windows needed to check the hdd for errors because the loader then its not loading anything and sets all prefetch as dirty

This is what i start at boot + ati catalyst :
 screenshot.15-11-2011 23.37.26.png (138.29K)
Number of downloads: 7
All the programs appear instanly in my systray after welcome screen wich usualy takes 1-2 seconds. You need to try it to see for yourself. I send you a pm.

I will make a trace with it and then without it but i tell you i had never under 60 seconds.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
L.E.

Ok so i made 2 traces with loader installed

Trace 1 :

Windows start time in Event Viewer 53 seconds :
 event1.zip (3.68K)
Number of downloads: 3

Trace:
 trace1.png (92.89K)
Number of downloads: 16

Loader hit 84,7% :
 screenshot.16-11-2011 00.37.31.png (6.98K)
Number of downloads: 6

Trace 2 :

Windows start time in Event Viewer 47 seconds :
 trace2.zip (2.19K)
Number of downloads: 2

Trace:
 trace2.png (87.53K)
Number of downloads: 14

Loader hit 98,4% :
 screenshot.16-11-2011 00.47.11.png (9.72K)
Number of downloads: 20

If i make another trace i belive it will be again 44-45 seconds since every restart it learns

This post has been edited by draku: 15 November 2011 - 05:17 PM

[MagicAndre1981]

what are your PC specs? Which HDD do you use?

[draku]

AMD 1090T, 8GB DDR3, SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 1TB it might seem faster but i instaled the loader at a friend with AMD x2 6400+,4GB DDR2 , SAMSUNG 500GB not spinpoint and he boots in 30-32 seconds but does not have all the crap i have in startup list
After seeing how good this preloader is now i want to buy a hybrid hdd or ssd like ocz synapse cache to accelerate all my hdd not only the boot

This post has been edited by draku: 15 November 2011 - 05:37 PM

[kwapster]

MagicAndre1981, on 14 November 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

baconeater, on 14 November 2011 - 11:52 AM, said:

magicanndre I would be so grateful if you would look at my xml file. I can't figure out why my boot is so slow.

Hi, restoring the networkconnections take tool long:

 reStore_Network_connection.png (22.82K)
Number of downloads: 63

This causes a 50s delay.

I use

net use /persistent:no 

in a CMD to mount network drives when I need them. This avoids such delays.

how do i get this view

[MagicAndre1981]

go to "Generic events" and generate the summary table.

[Scottyboy99]

Hi Magic Andre,

Sorry to bother you. I think my prefetch on windows 7 ultimate x64 is doing strange things. Basically I ran your optimisation a few months back and it worked well. My boot got a bit slower over time, so a few days ago I went into windows/prefetch and deleted only the .pf files to rebuild the prefetcher. I only did it this way to avoid the lengthy 2nd part of the optimisation due to a lack of time. Anyway all seemed fine, subsequent boots were a tad quicker. That was until the 6th or 7th boot after this. It was as if something happened & prefetch was no longer working/ or corrupt. No error messages but my boot suddenly increased by over a minute. 7 or 8 boots later and still it was slow. So I ran your optimisation and it all seemed to be ok again.

However, yesterday there were some windows updates which I installed and as a result the boot immediately slowed rapidly again despite constant reboots (about 8 in a row I tried). So I deleted the pf files again from prefetch folder. Instantly the boot sped right up until, yep you guessed it, the 6th or 7th boot when it slowed right down again. Very odd??? So late last night I ran your optimisation again. At first it errored as it had to wait too long for the prefetcher. I deleted the pf files again and after doing this your optimization ran through just fine. And since then (some 8 boots after running it) my boot has been okay again (about 100ms according to event viewer which is about normal/peak for my laptop).

Has my deleting the .pf files caused my problems? I only deleted these and not other files in that folder. Also I wasn't emptying them from the recycle bin (until the last optimisation) so I wonder if this caused part of my problems. So at this moment in time my boot is fine but i worry as soon as I install another windows update or any other type of program the problems will come back? I am worried my deleting of the pf files in the prefetch folder has caused all my issues? Should I have deleted the whole folder including the readyboot sub folder when i did it? I kind of wish I'd never touched it now! I was under the impression deleting the files would cause Windows to rebuild it.

Many thanks,
Wayne

This post has been edited by Scottyboy99: 14 December 2011 - 04:21 AM

[MagicAndre1981]

Don't delete the pf files. Only run the optimization. Run a full boot trace (look at my other topic) when you got the slowdown again.