[Ambassador]

fdv, on 28 February 2010 - 02:31 AM, said:

Ambassador, on 22 February 2010 - 10:37 AM, said:

Does your fileset remove the HTML-dependant User Accounts applet and replace it with the still-present-in-XP "classic" User Accounts applet? Not a big thing, but hey.

ok now that I know what you mean. The file is MSHTA.DLL dependent. I do put that with IE.INF but by default my XP fileset actually leaves IE -in- (see the line in SYSSETUP.INF). If you copy that over to '32, expand it and register it (if it even needs registering -- probably it does) will that, alone, allow this userpasswords applet to work? I wonder. I'll test it when I'm at my VM on Tuesday.

Actually, I was hoping that the default userpasswords would be removed by the fileset. The old 2000-style one is much more efficient and faster.

This post has been edited by Ambassador: 05 March 2010 - 10:13 AM

[fdv]

Fileset 3 up. The changes are not big, just numerous. Mostly to registry edits. A new custom keyboard for US users has been added (see the JPG for new characters). Right now I am testing with US keyboard and fonts only. I will componentize non-US shortly. I did this to isolate non-US for testing -- that's the only reason.
This needs rigorous testing. It has already been tested with Office 2007 fully.

Ambassador, your request has been implemented: userpasswords gone, userpa sswords2 now in place.

Known problems after I tested this:
my webcam didn't install (only the microphone worked) -- probably a missing video codec
Adobe CS4 full suite installation halted with an error -- not sure of the cause yet

This post has been edited by fdv: 08 March 2010 - 09:41 AM

[Ambassador]

Thanks!

[fdv]

3a, bunch of bugfixes, adobe cs4 works now. non-US languages restored (to use, delete MY intl.inf file)

have yet to test with camera.

no one testing? someone give it a shot. be sure to read the readme file.

[chefken]

fdv, on 09 March 2010 - 02:21 AM, said:

3a, bunch of bugfixes, adobe cs4 works now. non-US languages restored (to use, delete MY intl.inf file)

have yet to test with camera.

no one testing? someone give it a shot. be sure to read the readme file.

Gave it a shot...

BSOD on installing Avira Personal 9.
As soon as installer tries to start avguard -> crash!
When running 'XP-fdv" in VM (VirtualBox), Avira runs fine.
Requests:
- Could you swap all references to 'C:\Windows' with '%Systemroot%' in your Fileset (like in file deldirs.cmd), cause I'm using different Pathname.
- Is it Possible to delete entries in registry from services which have been removed?

Fred, thanks again for all your Magic..hope you can solve the issues I had...
grt. Chefken.

[fdv]

Thanks for the comments Chefken

chefken, on 09 March 2010 - 07:55 AM, said:

BSOD on installing Avira Personal 9.

Can you run filemon and regmon logs when trying an install? I don't have a live system to test on yet, just VM. I am assuming your system installs AVira 9 personal just fine on an unmodified XP. I made the path change btw. There is one entry in HIVESFT for running defrag on the C drive that I don't know how to change. (Search for "defragpath")

chefken, on 09 March 2010 - 07:55 AM, said:

- Is it Possible to delete entries in registry from services which have been removed?

This is something that so far has baffled me. Some services install externally from the HIVE files and it's a real bit*ch finding them. Like RSOP... it had it's own INF and get this, it installs just like a driver. Talk about maddening. I found it by accident. I have service shutoffs in AXANT and for a while I thought that setting a reg key, even to off, would "resurrect" a service that should not show up, but that's not it either. Although I continue to look into this I have freaking scoured the files looking for some of these and some are quite elusive.

The Avira thing puzzles the heck out of me as to why it works in VM. I use AVG personally and plan to deploy it so I will stay on top of this. Maybe I'll test tonight by installing and trying the free Avira and seeing what's what. A BSOD would... I'm thinkig out loud here... would probably signal a missing file driver, like a SYS file. If it were a DLL it would just error out I believe.

[chefken]

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Can you run filemon and regmon logs when trying an install?

I tried regmon and filemon on installing AntiVir. But when BSOD, PC restarts and results file- and regmon are lost.
Is there some logfile I have to check?...(never used reg- and filemon).
As soon as PC is rebooted and I run filemon, most errors are csrss.exe:388 related.. complaining about missing 'microsoft.windows.common-controls'.
AntiVir somewhere lists missing 'fxsst.dll'.

When I reinstall AntiVir and pick option repair, installation succeeds!
Now AntiVir is complaining (eventvwr and events in antivir) about missing 'avesvc.dll'.
I searched for the file in a working XP box, but I can't find it anywhere.

I made a new SOURCESS folder with INTL file removed and my tweaks in winnt.sif disabled, but problem still occurs.

Btw:
- Tried to install ProcMon, but not working either.
- 'PrevX' (thus 'HitmanPro') state that 'Winsock2\parameters\protocol_catalog9' has been altered. Same with 2000 fileset. Can I ignore this message?

grt. Chefken.

[fdv]

chefken, on 10 March 2010 - 07:37 AM, said:

most errors are csrss.exe:388 related.. complaining about missing 'microsoft.windows.common-controls'.

Common error, unrelated

chefken, on 10 March 2010 - 07:37 AM, said:

AntiVir somewhere lists missing 'fxsst.dll'.

Okay, this is a start. I have a file called OFF2007.INF for program compatibility. Maybe adding it there will work. I will see. Strange that it works in a VM.

chefken, on 10 March 2010 - 07:37 AM, said:

missing 'avesvc.dll'. I searched for the file in a working XP box, but I can't find it anywhere.

Not an XP file, it's an Antivir file

chefken, on 10 March 2010 - 07:37 AM, said:

I made a new SOURCESS folder with INTL file removed and my tweaks in winnt.sif disabled, but problem still occurs.

No I mean delete it from MY fdvfiles folder prior to running HFSLIP to INCLUDE languages Sorry about the confusion on that!

Will check out Procmon later

[chefken]

fdv, on 10 March 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

Not an XP file, it's an Antivir file

I know it's an AntiVir file, but on my other XP-box which is running AntiVir without problems, there is no 'avesvc.dll'.

fdv, on 10 March 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

No I mean delete it from MY fdvfiles folder prior to running HFSLIP to INCLUDE languages Sorry about the confusion on that!

There was no confusion, I did it the way you prescribe.

Don't spend too much time on this, cause as I mentioned, I got Avira running after repair install.
There's only one drawback...
The moment AntiVir crashes, normally the program shows a dialog where one can choose the StartUp type.
I always select the Secure start (Early Load).
I can't find this option in the Config settings afterwards...

grt.

[Ambassador]

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Ambassador, your request has been implemented: userpasswords gone, userpa sswords2 now in place.

What file in this fileset controls its removal?

[fdv]

Ambassador, on 17 March 2010 - 08:38 AM, said:

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Ambassador, your request has been implemented: userpasswords gone, userpa sswords2 now in place.

What file in this fileset controls its removal?

open TXTSETUP and uncomment
nusrmgr.cpl = 1,,,,,,,2,0,0

mshta.exe dependent, so you must have that installed too

[Ambassador]

fdv, on 17 March 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:

Ambassador, on 17 March 2010 - 08:38 AM, said:

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Ambassador, your request has been implemented: userpasswords gone, userpa sswords2 now in place.

What file in this fileset controls its removal?

open TXTSETUP and uncomment
nusrmgr.cpl = 1,,,,,,,2,0,0

mshta.exe dependent, so you must have that installed too

I wasn't going to uncomment it. I just wanted to know so I could remove the HTML Users applet from another computer on which I can't put a fileset installation.

This post has been edited by Ambassador: 17 March 2010 - 01:02 PM

[PMikeP]

fdv, on 19 February 2010 - 09:43 AM, said:

Updated.
If anyone has additional ideas for stuff to remove, let me know.

Hi Fred:

I haven't started testing your XP FDV yet... it may be moot for me, per a question to follow on using nLite to integrate fussy nvidia AHCI SATA drivers.

In the meantime, if you haven't removed all this stuff already, below is a list of core items I cut out from XP using nLite. After months of trial and error testing beforehand, I've been successfully running this trimmed nLite XP for a year. (XP Home Upgrade.) I'm not as much of a power user as you are - I run your FDV W2K in Vbox for internet. In XP I run Magix Movie Edit Pro Plus 15, Corel PaintShop Pro X, WP Office 12, Dragon Natural Speaking standard. (Makes me wonder about SAPI removal if ever I upgrade to their speech to text version.)

Nothing exotic. Some of the programs installed a higher version of C++ Visual Runtimes. I don't use NETFramework. (I run nLite and stuff on another instance when I need NETFrame.) I use K-lite for what little video stuff I need on my host XP. No Flash. I don't use wireless, as you can see.

So FWIW, here are the items that can be removed in XP, if you haven't done it already. (The only "problem" I've noticed so far is that the Human Interface Device service isn't startable. Some dll's had to be hand copied into System32 to make that work. Don't know if that's a Nuhi problem or if I did when I set a custom program folder in the unattended install page.)

Mike <><

;# Network #
Communication tools
Comtrol Test Terminal Program
Connection Manager
FrontPage Extensions
H323 MSP
Internet Connection Wizard
Internet Information Services (IIS)
IP Conferencing
MAC Bridge
MSMail and MAPI
MSN Explorer
Netmeeting
NetShell Cmd-Tool
Network Diagnostic
Network Setup Wizard
NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Protocol
Peer-to-Peer
Share Creation Wizard
Synchronization Manager
TAPI Application Support
TCP/IP Version 6
Vector Graphics Rendering (VML)
Web Folders
Windows Messenger

;# Operating System Options #
Blaster/Nachi removal tool
Disk and Profile Quota
Document Templates
DR Watson
Extensible Storage Engine (Esent97)
FAT to NTFS converter
Help and Support
IExpress Wizard
Manual Install and Upgrade
MS Agent
MS XML 2.0
Private Character Editor
Remote Installation Services (RIS)
Search Assistant
Security Center
Shell Media Handler
Symbolic Debugger (NTSD)
Tour
User account pictures
Visual Basic 5 runtime
Web View

;# Services #
Alerter
Application Layer Gateway
DHCP Client
Distributed Link Tracking Client
Fax Service
Indexing Service
Internet Authentication (IAS)
IPSEC Policy Agent
Kerberos Key Distribution Center
Messenger
Network DDE
Network Location Awareness (NLA)
Performance Logs and Alerts
QoS RSVP
Quality of Service (QoS)
Remote Registry
Removable Storage
Route Listening Service
RPC Locator
Secondary Logon
Service Advertising Protocol
Simple TCP/IP Services
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Text Services Framework
Uninterruptible Power Supply
WebClient
Windows Firewall/Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)
Windows Time
Wired AutoConfig
Wireless Configuration

This post has been edited by PMikeP: 20 March 2010 - 11:37 PM

[nh_wzg]

After commented some iteatapi.sys,megaide.sys,... in TXT... & LAY..., the system installed and startup successfully with the last fileset for XP.

Found in CMD.EXE windows,the path is not "C:\WINDOWS..." but "%SystemRoot%..." and it make the "ping.exe, ipconfig.exe" fail to run in "c:\>".

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>set
ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users
APPDATA=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data
CommonProgramFiles=C:\Program Files\Common Files
COMPUTERNAME=XPROEN01-1
ComSpec=C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe
DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
FP_NO_HOST_CHECK=NO
HOMEDRIVE=C:
HOMEPATH=\Documents and Settings\Administrator
LOGONSERVER=\\XPROEN01-1
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=1
OS=Windows_NT
Path=%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\system;%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%\system32\WBEM
PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE=x86
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7, GenuineIntel
PROCESSOR_LEVEL=15
PROCESSOR_REVISION=0207
ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
PROMPT=$P$G
SystemDrive=C:
SystemRoot=C:\WINDOWS
TEMP=C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp
TMP=C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp
USERDOMAIN=XPROEN01-1
USERNAME=Administrator
USERPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator
windir=C:\WINDOWS

[buggyprog]

! C:\Download\fdvfiles-xp.zip: Unexpected end of archive

[chefken]

chefken, on 09 March 2010 - 07:55 AM, said:

BSOD on installing Avira Personal 9.
As soon as installer tries to start avguard -> crash!

Today I tried to Install new Avira Pers. v10.
On Launch error message: "Avira Personal requires at least: Windows 2000, SP4 and update RollUp 1 [errorcode 20]"
So XP is not recognized as XP... Maybe this is helpfull..
grt Chefken.

[fdv]

PMikeP see the other topic you posted in for that list of components.

buggyprog re-download the fileset.

chefken the only time you would get this is if you also eliminated mini-filters, like if you were using TommyP's reducers as well. Avira is confirmed to work with my fileset (on the second install -- blame Avira for having crap dependencies).

nh_wzg I will check on these

[tain]

fdv, on 23 March 2010 - 12:27 PM, said:

chefken the only time you would get this is if you also eliminated mini-filters, like if you were using TommyP's reducers as well. Avira is confirmed to work with my fileset (on the second install -- blame Avira for having crap dependencies).

I had the same issue but haven't tried it with FDV's latest files. I'm sure FDV is correct here

[Blanchard]

I am a new guy I hope that this is the right place to post this

I have used HFSLIP & FDV fileset for Win2k : brilliant; now attemping the same with WinXP.

Problem is on installation. During Setup I get the message: "The file iteatapi.sys could not be found. Press any key to continue". Setup then stops.

I have tried disks with and without the FDV fileset. This happens with FDV fileset.

Machines: Dell Latitude laptop & desktop (not Dell)

Blanchard

[Martin H]

A couple of posts above yours, then nh_wzg stated:

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After commented some iteatapi.sys,megaide.sys,... in TXT... & LAY..., the system installed and startup successfully with the last fileset for XP.

the "TXT & LAY" he's reffering about is: txtsetup.sif and layout.inf.