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#61 User is offline   fdv 

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 09:43 PM

In order to prevent future confusion here I "fixed" this by removing the extra driver calls.

In other words, re-download the fileset.

Remember, if you want to get rid of IE in the XP set, you must comment the IE.INF line out in the SYSSETUP file.


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Posted 11 May 2010 - 04:20 PM

nice! i was truly dreading the move to XP but this just made it a lot easier. thank you, thank you, thank you!

since i barely have a clue about what i'm doing here i kept things simple at first by just deleting your intl file before running hfslip along with the more important looking hotfixes and sp3. old T30 thinkpad is much quicker now than with a freshly loaded win2k, hebrew works just fine as does all the other crap i've installed. nod32 refused to update at first but installing the latest version fixed that. system32 folder is around 550MB, don't know how you got it down to 270 unless the language files really do take up that much space? boot time does seem excessive for xp but not really a bother. hibernation works like a dream compared to win2k even though i couldn't find it at first....after i finally got around to installing the graphics driver it was right there where it was supposed to be.

so then i got all brave and commented out the ie.inf line in syssetup. install goes fine but the desktop just never comes up. bringing up the task manager i can pretty much get to anywhere i want but explorer.exe refuses to run. what did i screw up here?

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 03:45 PM

View Postmoteq, on 11 May 2010 - 04:20 PM, said:

nice! i was truly dreading the move to XP but this just made it a lot easier.


No one seems to know moteq. ;) So I'll suggest doing a manual integration of SP3 before running HFSLIP. With 2k and SP4 I got irreproducable (those are the worst!) errors before I did that. Also HFSLIP will have much less to do and run faster.

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 07:54 PM

View Postmoteq, on 11 May 2010 - 04:20 PM, said:

what did i screw up here?


Sorry moteq, I just now noticed this post!!

I can't say for certain. My IE.INF is a ground-up rewrite and I must have accidentally put in a vital DLL that shouldn't be removed. This is something that I am constantly updating so eventually it will be fixed ... sorry I can't say better than that! ;)

BTW, it was -Server 2003- that I got down to 270, not XP

This post has been edited by fdv: 17 May 2010 - 02:49 PM


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Posted 15 May 2010 - 06:40 AM

The only file missing is mofcomp.exe (or so). The serial has to be filled in and I think it's the audio codecs and/or drivers that take a long time to install. (after a while there's a message that they did'nt pass M$ labs -> 'continue anyway') But then I got a nice empty desktop.
Screensaver works alright ;)
I only have the ASMS and System32 subdirs of i386 i'll add. I will now try the ';KLM' bit on this same set (although the result may be difficult to check with xp like this).

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 02:02 AM

nice to see that this fileset is still being updated despite the end of support for hfslip. as brabant suggested, running from an sp3 source seems to have resulted in a lighter install and boot times are now actually quick. with the new fileset i now get a working system without any IE but there still seem to be some issues with some of the apps i use, mainly firefox starts dropping icons and images after running for a while. leaving the IE core in place results in a nice solid system though.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 12:11 PM

Hi guys,

Having used fdvfiles for W2k, I wanted to do the trick with XP too.

Trying it, my already great respect for FDV, Tommy, and you guys, increased by the hour.
I just can't get it right, so it seems.

I just hope one of you will take the trouble to read this and give me a hint.. :blink:

Excuse me if these are stupid questions (I'm not a system programmer myself). :(

Question 1
Is the latest fdvfiles-xp (from July 17, 2010) usable with XP-Home or is it for XP-Pro only?
When I put the contents of the XP-Home OEM CD in SOURCE folder and create a CD, the installer produces 50 messages about
"unable to copy file"
These files are not on the original XP-Home CD.
All but the last one is mentioned in textsetup.sif
These are the filenames:
 
admtoolw.chm
appmgmts.dll
appmgr.dll
asr_fmt.exe
asr_ldm.exe
asr_pfu.exe
bootcfg.exe
cipher.exe
cmdlib.wsc
compatws.inf
drvqry.exe
dwup.inf
efsadu.dll
evcreate.exe
evtrig.exe
fde.dll
fdeploy.dll
getmac.exe
gpedit.dll
gpedit.msc
gprslt.exe
gptext.dll
gpupdate.exe
irbus.inf
login.cmd
lsans.ttf
lsansd.ttf
lsansdi.ttf
lsansi.ttf
ntdsbcli.dll
opnfiles.exe
relog.exe
rootsec.inf
rsfsaps.dll
scriptpw.dll
sctasks.exe
secpol.msc
securedc.inf
securews.inf
smlgcfgw.chm
tabletoc.dll
termcap
typeperf.exe
vbicodec.ax
wmiscmgr.dll
wsecedit.dll
wstpager.ax
wstrendr.ax

xpsp3res.dll 

Question 2
Is the following expected behavior?
  • When I skip these files at copy, the install continues.
  • But after the restart, and login as 'Owner' - no password, when installing devices, the program mentions dozens of HFSLIPnnn.INF files missing.
  • After another restart, and login as 'Owner' - no password, the desktop remains black with only the version information in the bottom right corner.


Question 3
Is the following expected behavior?
When I try to login as Administrator, I get the message I can't be registered, due to some account limitation.
That happens when I use fdvfiles-xp on a XP-Pro source as well!

Question 4
Should some filenames be changed for XP-sources with other languages?
The file TEXTSETUP.SIF mentions - among others - the following files
  • msr2cenu.dll
  • wmerrenu.cat
  • wmerrenu.dll

With an XP-Pro-NL Source, this leads to errors: missing wmerrenu.dll etc.
Could these be the corrected filenames?
  • msr2cNLD.dll
  • wmerrNLD.cat
  • wmerrNLD.dll


Question 5
With XP-Pro source, fdvfiles-xp, IE8, WMP11 DX9, MDAC2.8, I get the following problem after restart:
unable to find module iedkcs32.dll
Anybody has an idea what I should do?

Question 6
On this very useful (thanks a lot) website: mimo some links are still pointing to the non-existent hfslip.org site. Can anybody help me find the following files mentioned in "Extra's"?

Quote

Create the HFCLEANUP folder inside the HFSLIP folder. Then download the cleanup package(s) you want:
  • General cleanup set for Windows 2000, XP, and 2003
  • Extra add-on for Windows 2000
  • Dialup Reducer
  • MS Office Reducer
  • Network Driver Reducer

Extract the content of the package(s) into the HFCLEANUP folder.


Thanks for your time and answer, if possible..
Eveline
(edit: question 6 added)

This post has been edited by ebernard: 23 September 2010 - 12:49 PM


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Posted 03 October 2010 - 03:08 PM

View Postebernard, on 23 September 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:


Question 6
On this very useful (thanks a lot) website: mimo some links are still pointing to the non-existent hfslip.org site. Can anybody help me find the following files mentioned in "Extra's"?

Quote

Create the HFCLEANUP folder inside the HFSLIP folder. Then download the cleanup package(s) you want:
  • General cleanup set for Windows 2000, XP, and 2003
  • Extra add-on for Windows 2000
  • Dialup Reducer
  • MS Office Reducer
  • Network Driver Reducer

Extract the content of the package(s) into the HFCLEANUP folder.


Thanks for your time and answer, if possible..
Eveline
(edit: question 6 added)


hi, if i'm not totally wrong i should still have those files (somewhere).. sorry, i'm very short these days, but i will try to come back to you within the next days..

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 09:10 AM

Thanks Mukke,
I would really appreciate it, if you could help me to these files!

Kind regards
Eveline

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Posted 10 October 2010 - 02:35 PM

hi Eveline,

attached archive contains the 5 cleanup packages referenced under number 7 of the advanced features. i guess you were looking for them and not for the .ext files from the extras

Attached File(s)



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Posted 13 October 2010 - 10:49 AM

View Postmukke, on 10 October 2010 - 02:35 PM, said:

attached archive contains the 5 cleanup packages referenced under number 7 of the advanced features

Dear Mukke,
You are fabulous!
These files are exactly what I was looking for.
MimO could not find them..

Thank you so much.
kind regards
Eveline

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Posted 14 October 2010 - 11:51 AM

View Postmukke, on 10 October 2010 - 02:35 PM, said:

attached archive contains the 5 cleanup packages referenced under number 7 of the advanced features. i guess you were looking for them and not for the .ext files from the extras
Thx also from me! I fixed these roken links with you files... :)

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 11:44 PM

Good work keepin' the dream alive boys! (& possibly girls :P)

Going back to Windows 2000 for the first time in a number of years for some testing.. Where the latest FDV lovin' for Windows 2000..? Or is it really that far gone now? Dead and buried!?! NO don't say it!

This post has been edited by kalo: 26 October 2010 - 12:21 AM


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Posted 26 October 2010 - 11:09 AM

Hi all, Hi Kalo!
The 2000 fileset is where it's been. Since no new hotfixes came out -- it's done -- and since I no longer use the OS, I don't anticipate any more changes to the fileset. I encourage individual tweaking but alas I don't have the time to really answer questions (in any detailed way, that is).

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 03:49 PM

View Postebernard, on 23 September 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:

Question 1
Is the latest fdvfiles-xp (from July 17, 2010) usable with XP-Home or is it for XP-Pro only?
When I put the contents of the XP-Home OEM CD in SOURCE folder and create a CD, the installer produces 50 messages about
"unable to copy file"
These files are not on the original XP-Home CD.
All but the last one is mentioned in textsetup.sif
These are the filenames:
 
admtoolw.chm
appmgmts.dll
appmgr.dll
asr_fmt.exe
asr_ldm.exe
asr_pfu.exe
bootcfg.exe
cipher.exe
cmdlib.wsc
compatws.inf
drvqry.exe
dwup.inf
efsadu.dll
evcreate.exe
evtrig.exe
fde.dll
fdeploy.dll
getmac.exe
gpedit.dll
gpedit.msc
gprslt.exe
gptext.dll
gpupdate.exe
irbus.inf
login.cmd
lsans.ttf
lsansd.ttf
lsansdi.ttf
lsansi.ttf
ntdsbcli.dll
opnfiles.exe
relog.exe
rootsec.inf
rsfsaps.dll
scriptpw.dll
sctasks.exe
secpol.msc
securedc.inf
securews.inf
smlgcfgw.chm
tabletoc.dll
termcap
typeperf.exe
vbicodec.ax
wmiscmgr.dll
wsecedit.dll
wstpager.ax
wstrendr.ax

xpsp3res.dll 

Question 2
Is the following expected behavior?
  • When I skip these files at copy, the install continues.
  • But after the restart, and login as 'Owner' - no password, when installing devices, the program mentions dozens of HFSLIPnnn.INF files missing.
  • After another restart, and login as 'Owner' - no password, the desktop remains black with only the version information in the bottom right corner.


I'm having the same exact problems. I have WinXP SP2.

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 10:44 AM

View Postmukke, on 10 October 2010 - 02:35 PM, said:

hi Eveline,

attached archive contains the 5 cleanup packages referenced under number 7 of the advanced features. i guess you were looking for them and not for the .ext files from the extras

I tryed the files with 2000 server and they don't work.

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Posted 25 November 2010 - 06:08 PM

View PostBrabant, on 15 May 2010 - 06:40 AM, said:

there's a message that they did'nt pass M$ labs -> 'continue anyway')


That looks like the problem I had when using HFSLIP with HFCLEANUP, with XP in the past.
(HFSLIP with HFCLEANUP resulted in Windows Setup failing to even recognize at least pretty much all Microsoft drivers as Microsoft drivers.)

(HFCLEANUP is no longer supported)

That sucked. This may occur again when adding custom stuff.

This post has been edited by RJARRRPCGP: 25 November 2010 - 06:13 PM


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Posted 25 November 2010 - 06:16 PM

Windows 2000 was just EOL'ed in 2010!

Bummer! :(

This post has been edited by RJARRRPCGP: 25 November 2010 - 06:17 PM


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Posted 19 March 2011 - 11:23 PM

I just received the following error.

The following value in .sif used by setup is corrupted or missing value 0 on the line in section [SourceDisksFile]
with key SP3.CAB.

I did not run HFSLIP, I just replaced the files in i386 folder. Any solutions.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 02:53 PM

Hi guys.

I thought I might wade in with a response to some issues raised by ebernard (post 67) a while ago- if anyone is still interested!


View Postebernard, on 23 September 2010 - 12:11 PM, said:

Hi guys,

Having used fdvfiles for W2k, I wanted to do the trick with XP too.

Trying it, my already great respect for FDV, Tommy, and you guys, increased by the hour.
I just can't get it right, so it seems.

I just hope one of you will take the trouble to read this and give me a hint.. :blink:

Excuse me if these are stupid questions (I'm not a system programmer myself). :(

Question 1
Is the latest fdvfiles-xp (from July 17, 2010) usable with XP-Home or is it for XP-Pro only?
When I put the contents of the XP-Home OEM CD in SOURCE folder and create a CD, the installer produces 50 messages about
"unable to copy file"
These files are not on the original XP-Home CD.
All but the last one is mentioned in textsetup.sif
These are the filenames:
 
admtoolw.chm
appmgmts.dll
appmgr.dll
asr_fmt.exe

[etc.]

xpsp3res.dll 

Question 2
Is the following expected behavior?
  • When I skip these files at copy, the install continues.
  • But after the restart, and login as 'Owner' - no password, when installing devices, the program mentions dozens of HFSLIPnnn.INF files missing.
  • After another restart, and login as 'Owner' - no password, the desktop remains black with only the version information in the bottom right corner.


Question 3
Is the following expected behavior?
When I try to login as Administrator, I get the message I can't be registered, due to some account limitation.
That happens when I use fdvfiles-xp on a XP-Pro source as well!




I have not read anything explicit from fdv about XP Pro v. XP Home, either online or in the readme.txt that comes with the fdv fileset.

It seems unlikely that the files will work with XP Home. The fdvfiles version of txtsetup.sif (not “textsetup.sif” btw :) ) corresponds to files found in the XP Pro CD I386 directory.

(My testing involves running .iso files on Virtualbox, either created by HFSLIP or directly from a tweaked SOURCESS folder.)

Using an XP Home SOURCE, and deleting fdv’s version of this file from the HFSLIP\FDVFILES folder (effectively using the one in the original XP Home SOURCE\i386 directory instead) gets rid of the admtoolw.chm etc errors, and also the HFSLIPnnn.INF file errors you mention in Question 2. However the issue of a desktop with no taskbar, start menu, and desktop icons etc., remains. I don't think the "black desktop" as such is an issue.

With an XP Pro SOURCE folder, and obviously fdv’s version of txtsetup.sif undeleted, said errors do not occur, and there is a viable taskbar etc. after logon, though some “issues” remain. Brabant, in post #65, mentions mofcomp.exe and audio codecs etc.- my post below has a couple of workarounds for this.

The Administrator logon issue referred to in Question 3 probably doesn’t have anything to do with the fdv files as such. A couple of good references on this subject are:
http://www.overclock...lation-part-ii/
(note what it says about winnt.sif)
and
http://unattended.ms...4168c8a4f502bde

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