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#1 User is offline   gosh 

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 07:19 AM

ince the dawn of time, Windows PE (WinPE) has not had any support for the 802.1x authentication protocol. This meant that any network deployment of Windows via a network secured with 802.1x was a non-starter, causing headaches for a few on my customers; I actually had one customer that ran new network cables to a majority of the desks in order to be able to deploy Windows XP over the network.
However, thanks in part to a colleague of mine who worked on this, Microsoft has released hotfixes that now add 802.1x support to both WinPE 2.1 and WinPE 3.0. You can get the hotfixes and further information at the below links:

WinPE 2.1: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975483
WinPE 3.0: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972831


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Posted 15 January 2010 - 08:37 AM

Thanks. I updated the WiFi link in the FAQ thread to point to this topic.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:18 AM

So how does one install this? I tried to install it on my laptop with Win7 and says that the update is not applicable.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 08:11 PM

You use dism to add the .cab file that exists when you extract the package to a WinPE 2.1 or 3.0 .wim file to "install" the hotfix. It doesn't actually install on a full OS.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 09:25 PM

Hah!! Doh!! I saw the update package and just double-clicked!!

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 02:18 PM

That is pretty funny considering I got it working just 3 weeks before they released this Hotfix.

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 10:22 AM

Now that Wireless works how did we connect to wireless networks. What Interface is recommended?

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Posted 25 January 2010 - 10:54 AM

Netsh is the only interface WinPE would have, and I don't know how much of netsh wlan is even in WinPE after this hotfix. Someone would have to test, or write a GUI utility if they wanted a GUI.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:36 AM

I tried to use dism to "install" the HotFix KB972831 in Windows PE 3.0 boot.wim file mounted with imagex in folder mount,
but it fails giving me

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Error: 0x800f081e

The specified package is not applicable to this image.


Used in XP OS at Deployment Tools Command Prompt:

Dism /image:F:\winpe3_x86\mount /Add-Package /PackagePath:F:\winpe3_x86\fix283119\Windows6.1-KB972831-x86.cab


Can someone help me to solve the problem ?

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:36 AM

View Postgosh, on Jan 15 2010, 07:19 AM, said:

ince the dawn of time, Windows PE (WinPE) has not had any support for the 802.1x authentication protocol. This meant that any network deployment of Windows via a network secured with 802.1x was a non-starter, causing headaches for a few on my customers; I actually had one customer that ran new network cables to a majority of the desks in order to be able to deploy Windows XP over the network.
However, thanks in part to a colleague of mine who worked on this, Microsoft has released hotfixes that now add 802.1x support to both WinPE 2.1 and WinPE 3.0. You can get the hotfixes and further information at the below links:

WinPE 2.1: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975483
WinPE 3.0: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972831



You do know they Talk about wired port based auth and not wireless

http://en.wikipedia....iki/IEEE_802.1X

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:51 AM

View Postandyasselin, on Jan 28 2010, 10:36 AM, said:

You do know they Talk about wired port based auth and not wireless


Then, being the title of this thread "New support for wifi", and seeing what Eagle710 posted, does it means that BOTH gosh and Eagle710 are lieing? :ph34r: :w00t:

@Eagle710
Care to post some details on the topic and your success? :unsure:

jaclaz

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:57 AM

View Postjaclaz, on Jan 28 2010, 05:51 AM, said:

View Postandyasselin, on Jan 28 2010, 10:36 AM, said:

You do know they Talk about wired port based auth and not wireless


Then, being the title of this thread "New support for wifi", and seeing what Eagle710 posted, does it means that BOTH gosh and Eagle710 are lieing? :ph34r: :w00t:

@Eagle710
Care to post some details on the topic and your success? :unsure:

jaclaz

So this is not wireless functionality? Are you sure it seems like they are talking about wireless.

I will but let me put my information together.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:38 PM

View Postjaclaz, on Jan 28 2010, 03:51 AM, said:

View Postandyasselin, on Jan 28 2010, 10:36 AM, said:

You do know they Talk about wired port based auth and not wireless


Then, being the title of this thread "New support for wifi", and seeing what Eagle710 posted, does it means that BOTH gosh and Eagle710 are lieing? :ph34r: :w00t:

@Eagle710
Care to post some details on the topic and your success? :unsure:

jaclaz


jaclaz i just copied my post from a Microsoft blog. All content was directly from microsoft. So its not a question of not telling the truth, if Microsoft says it works it works.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:42 PM

The blog is here:

http://blogs.technet.com/deploymentguys/ar...windows-pe.aspx

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 03:10 PM

View Postgosh, on Jan 28 2010, 03:42 PM, said:


It appears that it is used for most wireless 802.11 access points and is based on the Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP). Therefore wouldn't this be adding wireless functionality?

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 12:32 AM

I presume that the Version of the used AIK for Windows 7 is the problem.

dism accepts and works OK for the in the AIK provided cab files with version 6.1.7000
but it rejects the WiFi support cab having version 6.1.7600

Have now AIK with dism and cab files version 6.1.7600
Later more ....

This post has been edited by wimb: 29 January 2010 - 02:22 AM


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Posted 29 January 2010 - 04:36 AM

The new AIK of Windows 7 with dism version 6.1.7600 contains even
the WiFi support file Windows AIK\Tools\PETools\x86\WinPE_OCs\Windows6.1-KB972831-x86.cab

I was able to add the package after adding with dism some extra cabs of WinPE_FPs folder.

After booting with pe3w.iso from GRUB4DOS menu I have a lot of portable programs running from PStart Menu,
but there is not yet WLAN available. The driver was added manually, but WLANAPI is not found on the system.

So we are making progress, but there is still some work to be done ....

More Info http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php?sho...mp;#entry161011

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This post has been edited by wimb: 29 January 2010 - 12:23 PM


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Posted 29 January 2010 - 05:22 AM

@gosh
By omitting initially that it was a verbatim copy and paste from someone else's blog, you did give the impression :realmad: :
  • that the works was done partly by a colleague of yours
  • that one of your customers had a wired problem now solved by wireless
  • that you were substantially familiar with the thingies and somehow "endorsed" them or their use


@Eagle710
You plainly stated that you were able to enable wireless connections in a PE 2.1 or 3.0, or at least this is the only way your post can be read.

Since I didn't believe you much :ph34r:, in order to try and understand what was it all about, I posted here:
http://www.boot-land...showtopic=10250
reporting the news.

The phishing ;) worked, and wimb got hooked. :thumbup

Now, it seems like turning out that:
gosh believes blindly in whatever MS writes (which does surprise me :w00t:) and never actually tested the thingies
Eagle710 has never had this working as well :unsure:

IMHO the misunderstandings could have been easily avoided if what is coming out now was stated initially, by taking a bit more care in the wording and quoting the sources/adding details.

Thanks to wimb for having taken the time to start the actual testing.

:hello:

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 29 January 2010 - 05:23 AM


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Posted 29 January 2010 - 08:34 AM

I agree, reposts from other blogs or forums should have their source URL included with the post. This not only will alleviate the problem Jaclaz had in thinking it was something you (gosh) was working on, but it also will stop the original authors from thinking someone is stealing their work. This has come up on other forums in the past, and it is best to cite your sources, although you don't have to go TOW crazy. :ph34r:

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 08:55 AM

@Tripredacus
I am not getting crazy at all :), and definitely not TOW crazy.....

....speaking of which ;):
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1007283/craz...towing_trailer/
..and also speaking of "blind faith" :whistle:.

The point I was trying to make is that one thing is posting some "news" read somewhere and another thing is to make them appear as your own, besides the point you made about possible "resentment" of the original authors, is that when gosh, I mean gosh, not a JohnDoe42 at his first post on the board, posts something, it automatically (at least in my mind) get a patent of "dependability/reliability", and it is a synonym of "tested".

In other words, and with all due respect for gosh, I was pointing out how he has to be, as reknown Windows tweaker/expert and MSFN Patron, very accurate, as his words do have a weight.

But it seems to me that everything is now clear and cool B) , let's see if we can actually have WiFi working on PE 2.x/3.x.....

:hello:

jaclaz

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