[ryaxnb]

So far Opera 10.5 is only in MSI format. Granted it's early yet, but it seems extremely likely that Opera itself will still work fine on 98SE as it always has. Most likely just the MSI is incompatible with 98SE. Encourage Opera to be proper and release a non-MSI distribution or allow third-parties to release a 98SE-compatible release (taken out of the MSI wrapper) so the Opera 10.5 will be available for 98SE.
Just a general rally call

[modicr]

Hello!

You can find Opera with classic installer on Desktop Team blog:
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/

Here is the build 3228:
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/2010/...eta-for-windows

Cheers, Roman

[modicr]

Build 3234 now available: http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/Opera_10...234_classic.exe

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Changelog:
Added Java support
RSS preview is now working again

[rainyd]

Modicr, I've tried 3228 build of Opera 10.5.

It was possible to install it but it can't run (despite of help of KernelEx 4.5 beta 1).

As I've seen, officialy the oldest supported system is Win 2000 (similar to Firefox).

This post has been edited by rainyd: 08 February 2010 - 04:32 PM

[lightning slinger]

rainyd, on Feb 8 2010, 10:20 PM, said:

Modicr, I've tried 3228 build of Opera 10.5.

It was possible to install it but it can't run (despite of help of KernelEx 4.5 beta 1).

As I've seen, officialy the oldest supported system is Win 2000 (similar to Firefox).

Build 3228  runs here OK without KernelEx on this 98SE2ME machine. I normally don't download Alpha builds, but I was intrigued by the fact Opera does seem close to a Beta release of 10.5. I took the precaution of installing it in a separate folder from Opera 10 so I could compare the two and it does load pages with a lot of content such as Flash and Javascript faster. But the real question is whether it runs any better for those users who have had a good deal of problems running previous releases. 

Latest Build is 3236 by the way, they are coming thick and fast.

This post has been edited by lightning slinger: 09 February 2010 - 02:21 AM

[rainyd]

In fact, I've installed that Alpha to the directory of stable 10.10 version but I don't know if that was a reason for my unsuccessful run.

I can't uninstalled KernelEx because some of my programs required it's presence.

This post has been edited by rainyd: 09 February 2010 - 09:13 AM

[modicr]

lightning slinger, on Feb 9 2010, 09:17 AM, said:

Latest Build is 3236 by the way, they are coming thick and fast.

First beta build (3248) is now available at
ftp://get.opera.com/.../win/1050b1/en/

Cheers, Roman

[rainyd]

I can confirm that build 3241 works ok but installed in seperate directory than stable version (with presence of KernelEx 4.0 Final 2)

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

So Opera 10.10 is the last stable version for the 9x systems?

[rainyd]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on Feb 11 2010, 07:06 PM, said:

So Opera 10.10 is the last stable version for the 9x systems?

No, it's latest stable version of Opera for any Windows version.

Btw, latest build (3248 aka Beta 1) looks like is ok too - I've tested it shortly.

This post has been edited by rainyd: 11 February 2010 - 02:43 PM

[lightning slinger]

rainyd, on Feb 11 2010, 07:46 PM, said:

Btw, latest build (3248 aka Beta 1) looks like is ok too - I've tested it shortly.

Beta Build 3248 installs and runs without KernelEx OK but I have had a number of crashes and a couple of problems I didn't have with Alpha Build 3228. It seemed quite good when I tested it this afternoon on my XP machine on my workbench at my place of work so I reserve judgment on this until I have had more time, but heck it is only Beta 1.

[lightning slinger]

FWIW

Opera have available the Release Candidate of 10.50 Build 3291. For more information on this and the download link for the Classic Installer see http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog

It does install and run on 98SE without any additional software. Remember to remove the check under 'Discover Local Opera Unite Users' as even with Unite 'disabled' it will still try to make an UDP Outbound connection. Obviously the Opera developers have still not learnt what 'disabled' means.


After a few hours of testing I personally do not think it is any faster nor better in any way that 10.00 which is the version I have settled on. 

[marxo]

Opera 10.50 Beta works with Windows Lupus Project!

This post has been edited by dencorso: 28 February 2010 - 11:59 AM
Reason for edit: Added a title to the link, so it's meaning becomes clear. Please avoid being so terse in the future.

[rainyd]

wsxedcrfv, on 28 February 2010 - 11:17 AM, said:

Could I get a brief summary of what Opera 10.x does for win-98 users that, say, Firefox 2.0.0.20 doesn't do (or doesn't do well) ?

Newer, faster, technologically more advanced browser and also more secure - FF 2.0.0.20 was released in December 2008 (you can expect some security issue/issues with that version but on the other hand I don't know if they could affect Win9x users).

[ojn]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 11 February 2010 - 12:06 PM, said:

So Opera 10.10 is the last stable version for the 9x systems?

Hello:

According to the Opera web site ( http://www.opera.com...rt/kb/view/386/ ), the systems requirements for the current version of Opera (v10.10) is Windows 2000 minimum and at least Windows XP recommended. So while Opera may function on Win 98/ME, it's not officially supported. The recommendation of Opera is to use an older version of Opera (such as v9.64) for older systems.

Cheers,
Jerry

[Mijzelf]

ojn, on 28 February 2010 - 09:04 PM, said:

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 11 February 2010 - 12:06 PM, said:

So Opera 10.10 is the last stable version for the 9x systems?

Hello:

According to the Opera web site ( http://www.opera.com...rt/kb/view/386/ ), the systems requirements for the current version of Opera (v10.10) is Windows 2000 minimum and at least Windows XP recommended. So while Opera may function on Win 98/ME, it's not officially supported. The recommendation of Opera is to use an older version of Opera (such as v9.64) for older systems.

Cheers,
Jerry

Yeah right. The recommendation of Microsoft is to stop using W98, and use W7 instead. A recommendation which I also don't follow. 

[rainyd]

wsxedcrfv, on 28 February 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

Hmmm. I was looking for something a little more (ok, way more) substantial than that answer. The words you use (newer, faster, more advanced) are terms I generally disregard as marketing pap (at least when it describes software). I would have thought that Win-98 fans these days would long ago have put little stock in such words. So at this point I'm not hearing about any important capabilities that Opera 10.x has that FF 2-20 doesn't.

I could fully agree with you (about marketing pap) if we talk about an commercial product (for which you need to pay) but it's a freeware browser.
I don't know, what you expect from me: some tests/benchmarks or something else?
I think, that simpliest idea would be to try Opera 10.5.
If you like it, you could use if not you will stay with Firefox.

My default browser is Firefox 3.5.8 (with help of KernelEx) and Opera (stable 10.10 version) is my third choice - after SeaMonkey.

This post has been edited by rainyd: 01 March 2010 - 08:06 AM