[Famer]

hey guy's im looking to learn something new and wonder if you fellas and ladys could tell me of any good porgams for writing in C/C++ VB or .net ECT and if any you have any more to add please do just list all the good one's that you have used and compiled with thanks

[XtremeMaC]

borland c++ 5.02
I've been using it over 5 years now
non-visual though...

borland has visual ones as well.

u could go with .NET if u want, this way u could almost write at any language...

[Datalore]

If you want it easy, start with Visual Basic 6- just don't get too used to it. Once you've learned some basic programming skills, and if you want to be a next-gen coder, learn all the .Net languages like C#, VB.Net, and XAML. I'd have to say I love using Microsoft's own compilers to do coding in. They're kinda expensive, but if you're still a student go to Studica.com and you can rack up some awesome discounts on software there.

[Famer]

Thanks guys will have to look into these maybe buy them all

if any one else has more to add please post

Thanks

[Tarun]

If you develop applications for widespread deployment. Try to avoid .NET, as it -REQUIRES- the .NET Framework on the End-User's pc just to execute your application. VB6 is a better app to start with.

[Famer]

@Tarun Thank's for the head's up on that i was planing on learning them all if that can even be done as one guy told me the max any one should learn is three but i feel you can learn as many as you want but the .net i guess if learn it and write program's with it i will have to include the .netframwork or let user's know that it's need or write it in another more user friendly lang

[Tarun]

Since I've been using VB6 I tend to do a lot of research. Plus I noticed on the Windows Update site it ALWAYS bugs me to download the .NET Framework v1.1 which is a 30Mb+ file. And being on dialup (28.8k, all we have where I am) it's not worth it. .NET is also aimed at NT/XP/2000 systems only. I was rather ticked when I bought the VB.NET app and couldn't install it. I took it back to the store and told them their site was wrong. Reported to Microsoft and got a full refund, taxes and shipping.

I like VB6 best, I've written powerful, smooth running applications with it, including a MDI (Multiple Document Interface) chat application.

[Fuzzy Viking]

I prefer C++ Builder myself. It has a better programming environment and better help system than Visual Studio.

Also, the language is more compliant to standards, as non-standard elements are implemented as classes instead of making up "new" language "extensions".

There is a good selection of components ( C++ builder uses VCL components that are compatible with the ones used in Delphi ) for just about everything, shaving a lot of time off development time.

I use the pro version myself, but the standard version is a great way to get started.

Delphi is more popular as the language is higher level than C++, and thus easier to program, but for sheer speed, power, and most importantly for me, compatibility with the windows API, C++ cant be beat.

( Windows uses C-style structures as parameters in many API functions )