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RT Seven Lite - RC build 1.7.0 and Beta build 2.6.0 Windows 7 Configuration tool (07-12-2010) - SP1 Slipstream supported

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 03:30 AM

View PostMrJinje, on 21 March 2010 - 03:17 AM, said:

View Postbensam56, on 20 March 2010 - 09:26 PM, said:

List of components can be removed safely

Services:

Windows Error Reporting Service


@Ben, If you force 7Lite to auto protect wer.dll in the next version, users will be able to remove "Windows Error Reporting Service" without having to remember to protect wer.dll.

There are a few more in this list (post #1)

SYSTEM files to PROTECT and REASONING

wer.dll (have to protect this file in order to remove the error reporting service)
msdrm.dll (have to protect this file in order to remove digital rights management)
browcli.dll (have to protect this file so net start/stop will work by command prompt)
msoert2.dll (protect this file only if you are going to use and install msn messenger)
winipsec.dll (have to protect this file in order to remove the ipsec policy agent service)
Magnification.dll (protect this file if you are not removing Snipping Tool or it won't work)


Not sure about the rest, I have seen a few different ones posted in various vLite threads. Maybe we should try to collect all this info + reasoning in a single location (instead of losing the information 100 posts deep in vLite forum). I know there are more than 5-6 of these, can anyone remember the ones we are missing.


Did u got my previous PM?


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Posted 21 March 2010 - 04:00 AM

View Postbensam56, on 21 March 2010 - 03:30 AM, said:

Did u got my previous PM?

Check your inbox, reply was dated March 17th, but I never got reply back. Did you find a solution or is that still on the list for version 1.05 ?

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 04:15 AM

View PostMrJinje, on 21 March 2010 - 04:00 AM, said:

View Postbensam56, on 21 March 2010 - 03:30 AM, said:

Did u got my previous PM?

Check your inbox, reply was dated March 17th, but I never got reply back. Did you find a solution or is that still on the list for version 1.05 ?


I fixed that in this 1.04 itself. Error is "User profile cannot be loaded". Its a small mistake i made. I didn't got your reply. 1.05 will be final for Beta and adding some more new feature in RC.

Things I need to fix is

* If components is already removed from the windows using RT 7 lite and again loading that same windows, those removed components is still visible in components list.
* I will force some of the important system files not to delete.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 05:08 AM

@ bensam56
hey can u make the setting saving more comfort ?
its hard to save the setting at once
cos its there a lot of settings and thinking :)
so i want to make setting config and update it from time to time till its it finish :)

thx

This post has been edited by aviv00: 21 March 2010 - 05:13 AM


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Posted 21 March 2010 - 06:18 AM

View Postaviv00, on 21 March 2010 - 05:08 AM, said:

@ bensam56
hey can u make the setting saving more comfort ?
its hard to save the setting at once
cos its there a lot of settings and thinking :)
so i want to make setting config and update it from time to time till its it finish :)

thx


I THINK THAT OPTION IS ALREADY AVAILABLE. IN HOME TAB CHECK THE "SAVE CURRENT SETTINGS" OPTION BEFORE YOU START CUSTOMIZING YOUR WINDOWS. FINALLY IT WILL CREATE A INF FILE IN RT 7 LITE DIRECTORY. YOU CAN RELOAD THE SETTINGS AGAIN BACK..

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 06:20 AM

THOSE WHO ARE USING POLISH LANGUAGE MAY GET EXCEPTION ERRORS. IT WILL BE SOLVED IN NEXT BUILD 1.05.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 06:34 AM

View Postbensam56, on 21 March 2010 - 06:18 AM, said:

I THINK THAT OPTION IS ALREADY AVAILABLE. IN HOME TAB CHECK THE "SAVE CURRENT SETTINGS" OPTION BEFORE YOU START CUSTOMIZING YOUR WINDOWS. FINALLY IT WILL CREATE A INF FILE IN RT 7 LITE DIRECTORY. YOU CAN RELOAD THE SETTINGS AGAIN BACK..

We need to be able to choose which settings file we save/restore and be able to save multiple templates. Something with an open/save dialog where they can pick which settings file to restore.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 08:23 AM

I kept the following in my Vlite preset:

[Protection]
windows\system32\browcli.dll
windows\sysWow64\browcli.dll
windows\system32\Magnification.dll
windows\sysWow64\Magnification.dll
windows\system32\msdrm.dll
windows\sysWow64\msdrm.dll
windows\system32\msoert2.dll
windows\sysWow64\msoert2.dll
windows\system32\SystemPropertiesRemote.exe
windows\sysWow64\SystemPropertiesRemote.exe
windows\system32\tbs.dll
windows\sysWow64\tbs.dll
windows\system32\wer.dll
windows\sysWow64\wer.dll
windows\system32\werconcpl.dll
windows\sysWow64\werconcpl.dll
windows\system32\wercplsupport.dll
windows\sysWow64\wercplsupport.dll
windows\system32\werdiagcontroller.dll
windows\sysWow64\werdiagcontroller.dll
windows\system32\winipsec.dll
windows\sysWow64\winipsec.dll
windows\system32\wmdrmsdk.dll
windows\SysWow64\wmdrmsdk.dll

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 09:58 AM

View Postbensam56, on 21 March 2010 - 06:20 AM, said:

THOSE WHO ARE USING POLISH LANGUAGE MAY GET EXCEPTION ERRORS. IT WILL BE SOLVED IN NEXT BUILD 1.05.



BenSam56. I just tryed a untouched version again and removed some components. I removed windows firewall.. And tryed it in virtualbox.. Windows installation needs firewallapi.dll before it can continue..

Add it to the protection list aswell :)

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:38 PM

does anyone have a working preset here?? I've also start tinkering this one but its takes too long and I always got corrupted wim...

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:46 PM

Tried 1.04 BETA now.Defenetly improvement but there are still problems:

*When starting it now asks for WAIK although i have WAIK installed(see spoiler).Anyone else having this or is it only me?.Now i simply close WAIK windows,7 Lite asks to quit and i say no and i can run 7 Lite.Copied waik files to 7 Lite directory but still same:
Spoiler


*Unable to choose 7 Lite TEMP location...always greyed out

*7 Lite tries to force default Un-Attended settings even if i already have my own custom Autounattend.xml file in DVD root.Un-Attend is unselected from Tasks and section cleared from config file prior to 7 Lite start but it still happens.Why?

*Seems i am unable to integrate themes.No matter what theme i choose i get this cryptic message:
Spoiler


*Not enough size reduction?.Removed lots of stuff but size went down only 400-500MB.Also did wim export with max compress.
TEST1 - Nothing removed
TEST2 - Removed lot of stuff(see spoiler):
Spoiler

Spoiler


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Posted 21 March 2010 - 02:40 PM

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*When starting it now asks for WAIK although i have WAIK installed(see spoiler).Anyone else having this or is it only me?.Now i simply close WAIK windows,7 Lite asks to quit and i say no and i can run 7 Lite.Copied waik files to 7 Lite directory but still same:

I had to install WAIK for windows 7 and server 2008 R2. Did you install that version?

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*Unable to choose 7 Lite TEMP location...always greyed out

agree

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*Not enough size reduction?.Removed lots of stuff but size went down only 400-500MB.Also did wim export with max compress.
TEST1 - Nothing removed
TEST2 - Removed lot of stuff(see spoiler):

I have also had issues with this. I too am only getting 300-400MB reduction removing almost everything I can. Removing the same stuff in vLite resulted in almost a 1GB reduction. This is also reflected in the final installation size being greater in size as well. My results were with x86. I am now fully testing x64 version of Windows 7 with RT 7lite.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 02:57 PM

Here is my list of bugs:

Session settings:
Don't work between different versions of windows 7
Some settings don't stay checked between sessions after loading previous settings saved. "Fax" under systems does not. Looking for more.

Not able to make ISO without doing some configuration. Would also be nice to be able to do more configuration and rebuild after making an iso instead of closing and reopening application.

When making iso if you use a file name with a space you get "should not have spaces between words" error and then you can't make iso

Program has errors when opening multiple instances of the program, might want to prevent that more then one instance.

Almost all progress bars get to between 20-30% and then completes.

If you have "Tablet PC" checked under "System" from a previous session not only will it be greyed out but so will the default features
"Tablet PC Components" and you won't be able to check or uncheck either one. I have found that if I uncheck "Tablet PC Components" before selecting Load previous settings that I then do get a checkbox for "Tablet PC".

Not sure how the process differs from vLite but removing components takes significantly longer.


FEATURE REQUEST

Session settings management - delete, rename etc.

If you remove components that they are linked with their control panel links. So if you remove

Component descriptions and size like vlite.

Start menu configuration - like removing help and support.


Also it is my guess that when there is only one image to select from (just Enterprise) the program doesn't do as much compression or removal then if you can select one of many image (select Ultimate or Professional).

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 03:39 PM

Temp works for me, you just need to change the temp directory before selecting the Windows7 directory..

BUG
when adding files to be secured.. it says file not found.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 03:46 PM

View PostTomorrow, on 21 March 2010 - 01:46 PM, said:

Tried 1.04 BETA now.Defenetly improvement but there are still problems:

*When starting it now asks for WAIK although i have WAIK installed(see spoiler).Anyone else having this or is it only me?.Now i simply close WAIK windows,7 Lite asks to quit and i say no and i can run 7 Lite.Copied waik files to 7 Lite directory but still same:
Spoiler


*Unable to choose 7 Lite TEMP location...always greyed out

*7 Lite tries to force default Un-Attended settings even if i already have my own custom Autounattend.xml file in DVD root.Un-Attend is unselected from Tasks and section cleared from config file prior to 7 Lite start but it still happens.Why?

*Seems i am unable to integrate themes.No matter what theme i choose i get this cryptic message:
Spoiler


*Not enough size reduction?.Removed lots of stuff but size went down only 400-500MB.Also did wim export with max compress.
TEST1 - Nothing removed
TEST2 - Removed lot of stuff(see spoiler):
Spoiler

Spoiler



* Did u installed WAIK of windows 7? It will look for wimmount.sys file in system32\drivers or for 64-bit syswow64\drivers
* Temporary folder is not always greyed out. Once you open the application first enable that option by clicking that check box "Change temporary folder" after then it will be visible and change the folder.

* I check the components you removed
" It seems you didn't selected the components which is more bigger like Windows Media player, Windows Media center, Windows DVD Maker, Windows Help....The components you selected all will be less than 300 MB. Thats y the size remains like that.
* Autounattend.xml file will be created not only if you selected unattended section. It will also be used for customization and tweaks
* App will look for that theme msstyle file. If its not in the same directory then that error will popup.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 03:52 PM

View PostElmoonfire, on 21 March 2010 - 02:57 PM, said:

Here is my list of bugs:

Session settings:
Don't work between different versions of windows 7
Some settings don't stay checked between sessions after loading previous settings saved. "Fax" under systems does not. Looking for more.

Not able to make ISO without doing some configuration. Would also be nice to be able to do more configuration and rebuild after making an iso instead of closing and reopening application.

When making iso if you use a file name with a space you get "should not have spaces between words" error and then you can't make iso

Program has errors when opening multiple instances of the program, might want to prevent that more then one instance.

Almost all progress bars get to between 20-30% and then completes.

If you have "Tablet PC" checked under "System" from a previous session not only will it be greyed out but so will the default features
"Tablet PC Components" and you won't be able to check or uncheck either one. I have found that if I uncheck "Tablet PC Components" before selecting Load previous settings that I then do get a checkbox for "Tablet PC".

Not sure how the process differs from vLite but removing components takes significantly longer.


FEATURE REQUEST

Session settings management - delete, rename etc.

If you remove components that they are linked with their control panel links. So if you remove

Component descriptions and size like vlite.

Start menu configuration - like removing help and support.


Also it is my guess that when there is only one image to select from (just Enterprise) the program doesn't do as much compression or removal then if you can select one of many image (select Ultimate or Professional).


I linked permanently removal and default features list. If you selected in the right then it will be disabled in the left side. If you want to select something on left side then you have to unselect that feature from right side.

I will make ISO bootable section available in next build. If you have any doubt please check the video tutorials on rt 7 lite website.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 03:53 PM

View Postgendouhydeist, on 21 March 2010 - 03:39 PM, said:

Temp works for me, you just need to change the temp directory before selecting the Windows7 directory..

BUG
when adding files to be secured.. it says file not found.


which file you tried to add in secure list?

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 06:49 PM

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I linked permanently removal and default features list. If you selected in the right then it will be disabled in the left side. If you want to select something on left side then you have to unselect that feature from right side.

Yes, I know. My problem is that if I selected "Tablet PC" under System and its corresponding Default features component "Tablet PC Components" that the next time I load the program with that sessions settings saved that both of these will be grayed out and I can't uncheck either one.

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I will make ISO bootable section available in next build. If you have any doubt please check the video tutorials on rt 7 lite website.

Great! This will be nice for testing new builds.


The other problem I am having is that removing Components is somehow linked to the Control Panel links. What happens is that if you remove something it grey's out the link in the control panel but I don't think it removes it as I can still see the links in my control panel after installing.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 07:10 PM

View Postbensam56, on 21 March 2010 - 03:46 PM, said:

View PostTomorrow, on 21 March 2010 - 01:46 PM, said:

Tried 1.04 BETA now.Defenetly improvement but there are still problems:

*When starting it now asks for WAIK although i have WAIK installed(see spoiler).Anyone else having this or is it only me?.Now i simply close WAIK windows,7 Lite asks to quit and i say no and i can run 7 Lite.Copied waik files to 7 Lite directory but still same:
Spoiler


*Unable to choose 7 Lite TEMP location...always greyed out

*7 Lite tries to force default Un-Attended settings even if i already have my own custom Autounattend.xml file in DVD root.Un-Attend is unselected from Tasks and section cleared from config file prior to 7 Lite start but it still happens.Why?

*Seems i am unable to integrate themes.No matter what theme i choose i get this cryptic message:
Spoiler


*Not enough size reduction?.Removed lots of stuff but size went down only 400-500MB.Also did wim export with max compress.
TEST1 - Nothing removed
TEST2 - Removed lot of stuff(see spoiler):
Spoiler

Spoiler



* Did u installed WAIK of windows 7? It will look for wimmount.sys file in system32\drivers or for 64-bit syswow64\drivers
* Temporary folder is not always greyed out. Once you open the application first enable that option by clicking that check box "Change temporary folder" after then it will be visible and change the folder.

* I check the components you removed
" It seems you didn't selected the components which is more bigger like Windows Media player, Windows Media center, Windows DVD Maker, Windows Help....The components you selected all will be less than 300 MB. Thats y the size remains like that.
* Autounattend.xml file will be created not only if you selected unattended section. It will also be used for customization and tweaks
* App will look for that theme msstyle file. If its not in the same directory then that error will popup.


*Yes.WAIK for Windows 7 is installed.I even manually copied wimmount.sys to /sys32 and /sysWOW64 but still i get the prompt.Consider this my own bug unless someone can verify/duplicate this issue :yes:
*Hmm seems to be working now.Odd but nice
*Ok i guess i need to be a little more agressive.DVD Maker must defenetly go but im pretty sure i checked Windows Help for removal.Its just that i removed so many drivers and languages and these two have been always pretty big in the past so i was suprised if i didnt see much reduction.Also checked wim info with GimageX and the "Expanded Size" went down from 13800MB to about 11500MB.I was expecting it to go down to 7000MB or so...
*Ok.I will then copy the RT 7 Lite Autounattended contents to my own Autounattended file.That way i can have both.Besides my file contains some things that are not doable with RT 7 Lite like several custom user accounts will be created with blank passwords.
*Aah i see.Ok now i know what to do.I have customized .msstyles file but i didnt know it was needed for .theme integration

Also thanks for the quick reply.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 07:29 PM

View Postbensam56, on 21 March 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

View Postgendouhydeist, on 21 March 2010 - 03:39 PM, said:

Temp works for me, you just need to change the temp directory before selecting the Windows7 directory..BUGwhen adding files to be secured.. it says file not found.
which file you tried to add in secure list?

I had the same problem but i figured it out.There is no need to include path for the protected file like windows\system32\Magnification.dll


Simply add Magnification.dll and thats it.

I added these:

Spoiler


*What does this Red/Purple mean when i added a driver?.It will not be integrated?:
Spoiler


*Also maybe it just seems to me but 7 Lite seems very unstable when i add bunch of drivers.Always collapses with unhandeled exeption :wacko:
Ill try adding from shorter path or drive root, maybe 7 Lite doesent like my long folder names.

*What to think of this error?.Happened during Integration(Hotfixes i think).I clicked Ok and 7 Lite seemed to continue just fine.
Spoiler


*Also 7 Lite seems unable to resume from minimize.After it starts integrations etc i choose minimize but i am unable to bring it back to foreground until it has finished current operations.

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