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Posted 11 March 2010 - 11:56 PM

Is it possible to compress Winpe 3.0 so it has faster load times over a network boot?


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Posted 12 March 2010 - 08:57 AM

A wim packed with maximum compression is rather hard to beat. ;)

I doubt you will find anything better..

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:00 AM

What kind of speeds are we talking about here? I haven't timed mine on a PXE boot but its about 4 minutes, and weighs in a little under 200MB.

EDIT: also, I wanted to add, do you mean the TFTP speed or the total time from F12 until the PE finishes loading on the client?

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Posted 12 March 2010 - 09:45 AM

Rumours have it that booting over HTTP outperforms TFTP in terms of transfer speed over network, but I've not yet seen comprehensive and detailed test results/measurements for this..

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Posted 13 March 2010 - 06:22 PM

View Postjoakim, on 12 March 2010 - 09:45 AM, said:

Rumours have it that booting over HTTP outperforms TFTP in terms of transfer speed over network, but I've not yet seen comprehensive and detailed test results/measurements for this..

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The results of those tests might also depend on the network and the server's capabilities. My server's TFTP speed is less than 10 seconds, I'd like to say 6 seconds but I haven't timed it, just a guess.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 09:31 AM

How would you compress the wim file. In WinPE 2 there was a command yet in WinPE 3 I cannot find the command or argument to pass in order to compress maximum. Any ideas?

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 09:41 AM

In Windows 7 WAIK, DISM does not do everything. Some functions such as Export are still done with Imagex.

imagex /export D:\imaging\data.wim 1 D:\imaging\sample.wim
DISM /Cleanup-Wim

I believe after you export the WIM, you mount the image with DISM before running the cleanup.

http://technet.micro...28WS.10%29.aspx
http://technet.micro...28WS.10%29.aspx

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 11:11 AM

I thought for creating WIMs in WinPE 3 you could only use dism? Can you still create wim files for WinPE 3 using images as I have done for WinPE 2?

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 02:39 PM

Well the things that DISM can't do, Technet seems to say use Imagex.exe for those. For example, DISM does not have an export WIM option. That part was on a different page I looked up. I wonder why they keep Imagex around, or maybe some day in the future DISM will totally replace it?

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 11:18 AM

View PostTripredacus, on 19 March 2010 - 02:39 PM, said:

Well the things that DISM can't do, Technet seems to say use Imagex.exe for those. For example, DISM does not have an export WIM option. That part was on a different page I looked up. I wonder why they keep Imagex around, or maybe some day in the future DISM will totally replace it?

The only command removed then was peimg. So if I have WAIK 3 installed I could still edit WinPE 2images using imagex? I just cant add drivers I suppose unless the dism can modify WInPE 2 files?

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 11:48 AM

No unfortunately you can't service a Vista image with the 7 WAIK. At first, I got around this by using Win7 Tools on my main Server and put Vista Tools on another one. Eventually I ended up putting my WinPE 2.x boot images into retirement and created all new WinPE 3.0 images for deployment. But no, now I have Vista images (or even XP) that I can't do anything with besides regular image maintenance like mount/unmount and export/delete. I cannot put drivers into Vista images, so if I need to make one I have to use my unattend DVD each time. I still have some generic SP1 images I can use, but early on somehow I corrupted my Vista Ultimate image with DISM and had to delete it.

As far as my job goes, Vista was never very popular, and once Windows 7 went RTM no one wants Vista, so I kinda lucked out. Its actually funny now, if I see a system come through with Vista on it, I go and make sure someone didn't make a mistake!

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 09:11 AM

View PostTripredacus, on 21 March 2010 - 11:48 AM, said:

No unfortunately you can't service a Vista image with the 7 WAIK. At first, I got around this by using Win7 Tools on my main Server and put Vista Tools on another one. Eventually I ended up putting my WinPE 2.x boot images into retirement and created all new WinPE 3.0 images for deployment. But no, now I have Vista images (or even XP) that I can't do anything with besides regular image maintenance like mount/unmount and export/delete. I cannot put drivers into Vista images, so if I need to make one I have to use my unattend DVD each time. I still have some generic SP1 images I can use, but early on somehow I corrupted my Vista Ultimate image with DISM and had to delete it.

As far as my job goes, Vista was never very popular, and once Windows 7 went RTM no one wants Vista, so I kinda lucked out. Its actually funny now, if I see a system come through with Vista on it, I go and make sure someone didn't make a mistake!



LOL....awesome how you cant update Vista images with WAIK 7. They should have made them universal.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 04:13 PM

View PostEagle710, on 22 March 2010 - 09:11 AM, said:

View PostTripredacus, on 21 March 2010 - 11:48 AM, said:

No unfortunately you can't service a Vista image with the 7 WAIK. At first, I got around this by using Win7 Tools on my main Server and put Vista Tools on another one. Eventually I ended up putting my WinPE 2.x boot images into retirement and created all new WinPE 3.0 images for deployment. But no, now I have Vista images (or even XP) that I can't do anything with besides regular image maintenance like mount/unmount and export/delete. I cannot put drivers into Vista images, so if I need to make one I have to use my unattend DVD each time. I still have some generic SP1 images I can use, but early on somehow I corrupted my Vista Ultimate image with DISM and had to delete it.

As far as my job goes, Vista was never very popular, and once Windows 7 went RTM no one wants Vista, so I kinda lucked out. Its actually funny now, if I see a system come through with Vista on it, I go and make sure someone didn't make a mistake!



LOL....awesome how you cant update Vista images with WAIK 7. They should have made them universal.


I complained about it to my MS rep, and they forwarded the request along. Hopefully an update comes out to handle it.

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