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Windows 7 Crashes unexpectedly

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 10:20 PM

I'm using a windows 7 Ultimate, x86 which stops working randomly without any reason.

since the problem always occured when i was away from the desktop i'm not able to tell
what exactly happened . I just leave windows is running, and return back to find that
the monitor has gone into power saving mode and i found that the CPU was still powered
on but there was no HDD usage at all.

There is no response to any keyboard or mouse activity.

Initially i felt it could have been because the PC had gone into sleep because of power
options, but then the CPU is still on.

Upon on pressing power switch it INSTANTLY shuts down.


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I doubt this could be due to 3rd party software incompatibility, because i haven't installed
anything new in the past few days.


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Posted 17 March 2010 - 09:41 AM

Most problems with Windows are usually present longer than you'd expect. Things do not typically "just happen" out of nowhere. Your first place to look for clues would be in the Event Viewer.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 10:39 AM

View PostTripredacus, on 17 March 2010 - 09:41 AM, said:

Most problems with Windows are usually present longer than you'd expect. Things do not typically "just happen" out of nowhere. Your first place to look for clues would be in the Event Viewer.


I couldn't find any significant error in even viewer. one thing though it has correctly
recorded the time when i switched off the PC, even though the PC seemed like it had
crashed...

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 10:40 AM

After it shuts down, if you power it back on does it give you the "recovery" menu (start windows normally, safe mode, etc. options), or does Windows boot normally? If it's the latter, it sounds more like the system is failing to go into a power-saving state properly (probably hibernation failure, as is common with BIOS power-saving issues). Running "powercfg -h off" might change things, and is worth a try if this is the case.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 10:49 AM

View Postcluberti, on 17 March 2010 - 10:40 AM, said:

After it shuts down, if you power it back on does it give you the "recovery" menu (start windows normally, safe mode, etc. options), or does Windows boot normally? If it's the latter, it sounds more like the system is failing to go into a power-saving state properly (probably hibernation failure, as is common with BIOS power-saving issues). Running "powercfg -h off" might change things, and is worth a try if this is the case.


yes, it gives the safe mode and other options, and also the event viewer report states:

"SleepInProgress - false "

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 11:30 AM

OK, so it is a failure to sleep, although the immediate shutdown is the wildcard. Assuming you have the latest motherboard BIOS for your system, and it implements the S1 and S3 states properly, it might be best to test to get a trace of this and see what's happening, as it seems something (driver, perhaps) is causing the failure to sleep.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 11:39 AM

OK, i will try it out.

is there any alternative to the microsoft debugging tool + symbols cache for debugging
memory dumps ?

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 12:24 PM

Not really.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 10:45 AM

I ran the trace for hibernate mode, and the trace dump is about 81 Mb (~20 compressed) ,
do you want me to host it somewhere and pm the link ?

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btw i forgot to mention that sometimes i've had issues when resuming from
standby - the monitor would be on , but will only display an entirely black
screen. so i'd usually put it to standby again and resume it, it would be
fine.

so your guess of a driver issue seems highly probable.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 12:22 PM

Yes, please post it somewhere we can download it.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 07:11 PM

Bug trace:

http://www.mediafire.com/?jgnij2d2l4m

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Got a shiny new BSOD today :'(

BAD_POOL_CALLER

STOP: 0x0000000C2 (0x00000007,0x00001097,0x8AFOBB64,0x852DD730)

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 09:00 AM

Bad Pool Caller would be a driver issue, so more fuel on the fire. If you want to compress and post the .dmp file it created, that'd be good too.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 09:11 AM

well for some reason i had previously set a full memory dump, so its a ~2 GB dump now :(

could you tell me what i've to do to analyze it ? i do that and post the results...

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meanwhile should i change dump setting to minimal or kernel dump , just in case
the BSOD happens again i could post the kind of dump which you want.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 09:28 AM

You can try analyze it yourself using the Debugger tools for Windows. You also need to get the symbols for your OS. Even then it can be confusing if you don't know what you are looking at.

http://www.microsoft...ng/default.mspx

If you can upload the dump file, there are a couple users here that can read it for you.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 09:37 AM

View Postnewprouser, on 19 March 2010 - 09:11 AM, said:

well for some reason i had previously set a full memory dump, so its a ~2 GB dump now Posted Image

could you tell me what i've to do to analyze it ? i do that and post the results...

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meanwhile should i change dump setting to minimal or kernel dump , just in case
the BSOD happens again i could post the kind of dump which you want.



PM sent.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 10:11 AM

Thank you cluberti, I'll upload it by tomorrow.

the compressed size of Memory.dmp comes to around ~240 Mb :)

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Posted 20 March 2010 - 09:16 PM

Got another BSOD today, a different one...

PFN_LIST_CORRUPT

STOP: 0x0000004E (0x0000009A, 0x00009E02, 0x00000002 , 0x00000000)

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:53 PM

guess i'll have to take age ol method of save,format & forget :'(

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 11:56 PM

Sorry, been dealing with a personal issue. I'll take a look tomorrow (March 23).

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 07:25 AM

no problem take your time. thanks for all the help :)

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