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Posted 19 March 2010 - 02:43 AM

I need your help to realise my project :D

I would like to make a bootable USB key with Windows XP (Installed on it) AND (!!) the UBCD... :ph34r: I followed this tutorial to create the bootable XP and it works great : http://www.ngine.de/article/id/8 :thumbup I can now create a bootable USB key with XP installed and another USB key with the UBCD :)

But I have to use ONE USB key only... Can somebody help me please ? :blushing:


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Posted 19 March 2010 - 03:36 AM

You do mean the legal UBCD, right?

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 04:21 AM

View PostKelsenellenelvian, on 19 March 2010 - 03:36 AM, said:

You do mean the legal UBCD, right?

Yes ! Nothing illegal ;)

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 01:54 PM

View PostKelsenellenelvian, on 19 March 2010 - 03:36 AM, said:

You do mean the legal UBCD, right?

Is there an "illegal" UBCD? :w00t:
I only know about the real and obviously legal one:
http://ultimatebootcd.com/

@Keyboarder
You can use UBCD as a .iso.

Add a line to your current BOOT.INI on the XP stick:

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C:\grldr="grub4dos"


Add to root of the XP stick (from latest grub4dos - right now it is already inside the UBCD linked below):
  • grldr
  • menu.lst

And:
  • the UBCD .iso, say in /images/ubcd5.iso


Basically you need an entry in menu.lst similar to this:
title Ultimate Boot CD
map /images/ubcd5.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)



Get latest UBCD with grub4dos support:
http://ultimatebootc...opic.php?t=2131

Read some basics about grub4dos from here:
http://diddy.boot-la...os/Grub4dos.htm
http://www.boot-land...hp?showforum=66

Check for newer grub4dos here:
http://nufans.net/grub4dos/


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Posted 22 March 2010 - 06:19 AM

View Postjaclaz, on 19 March 2010 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostKelsenellenelvian, on 19 March 2010 - 03:36 AM, said:

You do mean the legal UBCD, right?

Is there an "illegal" UBCD? :w00t:
I only know about the real and obviously legal one:
http://ultimatebootcd.com/

@Keyboarder
You can use UBCD as a .iso.

Add a line to your current BOOT.INI on the XP stick:

Quote

C:\grldr="grub4dos"


Add to root of the XP stick (from latest grub4dos - right now it is already inside the UBCD linked below):
  • grldr
  • menu.lst

And:
  • the UBCD .iso, say in /images/ubcd5.iso


Basically you need an entry in menu.lst similar to this:
title Ultimate Boot CD
map /images/ubcd5.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)



Get latest UBCD with grub4dos support:
http://ultimatebootc...opic.php?t=2131

Read some basics about grub4dos from here:
http://diddy.boot-la...os/Grub4dos.htm
http://www.boot-land...hp?showforum=66

Check for newer grub4dos here:
http://nufans.net/grub4dos/


jaclaz

Thanks ! I will try that this evening :)

View Postjaclaz, on 19 March 2010 - 01:54 PM, said:

[*] the UBCD .iso, say in /images/ubcd5.iso

I don't understand... How can I do ?

This post has been edited by Keyboarder: 22 March 2010 - 06:39 AM


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Posted 22 March 2010 - 07:24 AM

What do you mean? :unsure:

Copy the .iso you download to the SAME place (and filename) you use in menu.lst entry.

The example assumes that you copy the .iso to a folder called "images" in root of the USB stick and rename it to "ubcd5.iso".

If you have it in root of the stick, named "Mickey_Mouse.iso" your entry should be:
title Ultimate Boot CD 
map /Mickey_Mouse.iso (hd32) 
map --hook 
chainloader (hd32)


If you have it in a folder called "goofy", your entry should be:
title Ultimate Boot CD 
map /goofy/Mickey_Mouse.iso (hd32) 
map --hook 
chainloader (hd32)


You should actually:

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 07:50 AM

View Postjaclaz, on 22 March 2010 - 07:24 AM, said:

What do you mean? :unsure:

Copy the .iso you download to the SAME place (and filename) you use in menu.lst entry.

The example assumes that you copy the .iso to a folder called "images" in root of the USB stick and rename it to "ubcd5.iso".

If you have it in root of the stick, named "Mickey_Mouse.iso" your entry should be:
title Ultimate Boot CD 
map /Mickey_Mouse.iso (hd32) 
map --hook 
chainloader (hd32)


If you have it in a folder called "goofy", your entry should be:
title Ultimate Boot CD 
map /goofy/Mickey_Mouse.iso (hd32) 
map --hook 
chainloader (hd32)


You should actually:

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jaclaz

Understood ! :)

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 08:09 AM

View PostKeyboarder, on 22 March 2010 - 07:50 AM, said:

Understood ! :)


:thumbup

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:48 AM

It works great :thumbup

But I can't start XP on another computer than mine. I see the loading bar with the Windows logo and it reboots after 2 seconds :( Do you have an idea ?

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 05:23 AM

View PostKeyboarder, on 23 March 2010 - 02:48 AM, said:

But I can't start XP on another computer than mine. I see the loading bar with the Windows logo and it reboots after 2 seconds :( Do you have an idea ?

I usually have several of them. ;)
Point is which one (if any) would be useful for your problem. :whistle:

First thing I would do if I were you, would be to check (and disable) auto-reboot:
http://www.theelderg...ystem_crash.htm

This way you should get a nice BSOD, which my crystal ball appears like identifying in a 0x0000007b, but we need to make sure of it's id.

Then, you should forget the ngine.de guide (not that it isn't good, but it's a bit outdated) and use a newer approach:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=9830

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 11:39 AM

I disabled the auto-reboot and I had the same error you said. But I will try your new link :) Thanks for your help :thumbup

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:31 PM

Then, your build is most probably missing the appropriate SATA drivers.

Check what the PC that doesn't boot and the PC that does boot have different, like:
  • Processor
  • Hard disk bus (like ATA/IDE or SATA or SATA set in BIOS as IDE compatibility or as AHCI)
  • Chipset


Hopefully the linked to set of programs should make the USB install more or completely "universal".

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