[click-click]

I have a bootable usb drive with XP installed on it for my own recovery purposes. I need a decent 7PE iso that I can use when my friends call me for help. I will give Make_PE3 another try using a fresh installed W7 SP1 with no updates and see if that solves the problems I am seeing. Two more questions:

Does MAKE_PE3.cmd do everything that MAKE_PE3.exe does?
I assume the created iso file should be the same either way right?

If so, I will just change the dism /set inputlocale statement in the cmd file and that will take care of the default keyboard layout for me. I guess this could be a option in the GUI if you ever decide to update it. Maybe have make_pe3 allow for additional dism commands at the end from a txt file before committing and unmounting.

Ciao....

This post has been edited by click-click: 09 July 2012 - 04:45 AM

[wimb]

click-click, on 09 July 2012 - 04:44 AM, said:

Does MAKE_PE3.cmd do everything that MAKE_PE3.exe does?
I assume the created iso file should be the same either way right?

Yes, the result is equal

Succes

This post has been edited by wimb: 09 July 2012 - 05:53 AM

[click-click]

Okay, MAKE_PE3 with a vanilla Win7 SP1 install as input seems to be the solution to my previous problems.
IE8 is working now and I no longer get an error message opening Control Panel. One minor thing is that
the Ethernet Network Icon still shows Authentication Failure (with ?) even though the Ethernet network connection
is working and I am able to use the Internet. If you have an idea what that might be let me know.

[wimb]

Using Win7 SP1 without adding Updates also worked for me.
Good to hear that this solution is OK for you.

No idea about Ethernet Icon .....
Did you let driver_fix.cmd do the job as scheduled or did you use PENetwork ?

[click-click]

Yes, I let driver_fix.cmd run and did not cancel it. I'll cancel and see what PENetwork does.

Ciao ...

Edit: Same result

This post has been edited by click-click: 10 July 2012 - 03:43 AM

[click-click]

Well looks like I'm going to have to give up on MAKE_PE3. I can't seem to get certain user reg entries to work. I.e Using [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PE3-USER\ for [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]. When I check the registry after the desktop appears the Run entry is missing. Also, if I do a build with objects in the Startup Folder for the default user, those entries do not run after winpe initializes the desktop. The Quick Launch toolbar doesn't show up either. I think this has something to do with the user account. There doesn't seem to be one. Basically, I can only customize the system after it is booted.

Am I missing something here or is this a limitation of MAKE_PE3?

This post has been edited by click-click: 10 July 2012 - 03:37 PM

[wimb]

In file PE3-SOFTWARE_CUSTOM.reg the user is defined as Users\Default

; set the system profile to X:\Users\Default instead of \system32\config\systemprofile

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PE3-SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\S-1-5-18]
"ProfileImagePath"="X:\\Users\\Default"

Desktop icons appear as defined in Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_add\x86\Users\Default\Desktop

And User Pinned\Start Menu is working
Make_PE3\PE3_mod\PE3_add\x86\Users\Default\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\StartMenu


In file PE3-USER.reg we have working

; Safely Remove Hardware - HotSwap - Thanks to JFX

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PE3-USER\Software\HotSwap!]
"AutoRun"=dword:00000001
"DisplayPDO"=dword:00000000
"SpinDown"=dword:00000001
"DFlags"=dword:10000003
"LangID"=dword:00000409

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PE3-USER\Software\HotSwap!\NonHotSwap]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PE3-USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"HotSwap! Applet"="\"X:\\Windows\\system32\\HotSwap!.EXE\""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PE3-USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce]
"HotSwap"="HotSwap!"

This post has been edited by wimb: 11 July 2012 - 12:55 AM

[click-click]

Wimb, THANK YOU for convincing me to give MAKE_PE3 another try.

I had some problems in the way I was trying to define my reg entries. I kept getting
a BSOD when I tried to set my environment variables using CurrentControlSet. I changed it
to ControlSet001 and that worked.

You are correct in saying that User Pinned\Start Menu is working. I was trying to add
a new toolbar (Quick Launch) to the taskbar. I added a few objects to the default
user Quick Launch Folder, but the folder does not show up on the taskbar. I can manually
add the folder as a new toolbar when booted.

As far as reg entry Run goes, I added a 2nd program called regscanner from Nirsoft and
that did not autostart either. I ran Autoruns and I see three run entries. Hotswap is
the only one that started. Maybe this has to do with the AutoRun=1 entry for that SW.

Statbar Applet
RegScanner Applet
HotSwap! Applet

From the plugins folder (defined like the hotswap run):

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PE3-USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"StatBar Applet"="\"X:\\Toolbx\\Statbar.EXE\""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\PE3-USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
"RegScan Applet"="\"X:\\Toolbx\\RegScanner.EXE\""

Statbar is an old VB program that still works well on a Win7 system. It works in PE too,
but it takes over 1 minute to appear on the screen. I have to start it manually. All other
programs start instantly.

Aside from that, I'm happy with the results so far. No need to give up. If you have any ideas why
entries in the Startup Folder or Run Key do let get launched, I'd be interested.

I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out with my PE problems. I'm starting
to get a better feel for Make_PE3 now, so hopefully, I will no longer need to bother
you. Again, thanks ...

[click-click]

After doing more testing, the only way I've found to Auto-Start something in the MAKE_PE3 environment is to use the [RunOnce] key. [Run] and (RunOnceEx] do not get executed during the WinPE startup. The reg keys that I set for RunOneEx are still there after the system is up, so Win7PE is ignoring them for some reason. Anyway, RunOnce works great for me and that makes things very flexible by being able to use files (RegTweaks for the active system) outside of Make_PE3.

This leads me to another question for Wimb. Would it be possible to add an option to not delete and reuse the already collected files to rebuild the iso?

Basically, you would be starting at the point where winre.wim is used and continue from there. This would save time copying the same Win7 files over and over again every time you do a build and you would not have to keep a live vanilla Win7 SP1 system around for that purpose. One could then make changes to PE3_add, PE3_reg, Win7_Drivers, etc. without starting from scratch. Does this make sense?

Ciao....,

This post has been edited by click-click: 13 July 2012 - 06:12 AM

[wimb]

click-click, on 13 July 2012 - 06:08 AM, said:

This leads me to another question for Wimb. Would it be possible to add an option to not delete and reuse the already collected files to rebuild the iso?

It used to be that way, but with all different versions and sources it is easier and more reliable to collect the files each time
and besides it does not take so much time .....

[click-click]

Yes, but I have to keep an installed vanilla SP1 system around that is taking up 10 GIG of valuable space. Besides this would be ideal for those that want to use a frozen version or source for the PE build. All they would need to keep for a build is the MAKE_PE3 directory after populating it with the necessary system files.

This post has been edited by click-click: 14 July 2012 - 07:35 AM

[TimFred007]

long time no see, i dont know why i did not post back sooner, but i have a modified 7pe based off of the finished product of make_pe3.

the file i am linking to is quite old, from the earlier days of make_pe3, but with added tools.
URL REMOVED, READ FORUM RULES

i have been working on a much MUCH more recent version of 7p3 with sp1, with many more added tools and abilities yet. since sp1 came out, but i will not release it until i am happy with it


what made me think of this page was this:
---- FSINFO Commands Supported ----

drives List all drives
drivetype Query drive type for a drive
volumeinfo Query volume information
ntfsinfo Query NTFS specific volume information
statistics Query file system statistics

C:\Users\Tim>Fsutil fsinfo drivetype
Usage : fsutil fsinfo drivetype <volume pathname>
Eg : fsutil fsinfo drivetype C:

C:\Users\Tim>Fsutil fsinfo drivetype c:
c: - Fixed Drive

C:\Users\Tim>Fsutil fsinfo drivetype e:
e: - Removable Drive

C:\Users\Tim>Fsutil fsinfo drivetype i:
i: - CD-ROM Drive

This post has been edited by Tripredacus: 16 July 2012 - 10:16 AM

[wimb]

TimFred007, on 16 July 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

the file i am linking to is quite old, from the earlier days of make_pe3, but with added tools.

In XP - IE8 then the link does not give your drive, but instead I get Google Drive Startpage https://drive.google...authuser=0#home

Now used Win 7 IE9 - Download Link is working ....

This post has been edited by Tripredacus: 16 July 2012 - 10:17 AM

[click-click]

click-click, on 14 July 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

Yes, but I have to keep an installed vanilla SP1 system around that is taking up 10 GIG of valuable space. Besides this would be ideal for those that want to use a frozen version or source for the PE build. All they would need to keep for a build is the MAKE_PE3 directory after populating it with the necessary system files.

Sorry for the confusion. I just realized that option 3 is what I was asking for.

[wimb]

click-click, on 16 July 2012 - 06:29 AM, said:

Sorry for the confusion. I just realized that option 3 is what I was asking for.

Yes, I was forgotton that option is already available ....

[Tripredacus]

Link to WinPE builds removed.

[click-click]

@wimb or anyone else that might have a suggestion

My Make_PE3 image works fairly well, but I have one problem that I would like to solve and I'm stumped on how to proceed. I have an app called Faststone Capture that is installed and it works flawlessly except for one thing. When I do the first screen capture after FSC is launched, it takes the FSC Editor which displays the screen capture more than 1.5 minutes to appear on the display. The same holds true for appearing in TaskManager. For any captures after that, the screen appears without any delay until I exit FSC. Starting it again gives me a delay on the first screen capture.

I have another image that I tried from someone else that also has FSC in it and there is no delay on the first screen capture.
Do you or anyone else have any idea what my image might be missing to cause this?

What would be a good way of tracking this down?

This post has been edited by click-click: 18 July 2012 - 04:55 AM

[wimb]

Try the supplied portable version by adding to any drive folder PStart from Make_PE3\MULTI\PStart
On booting 7PE it will search and Open PStart menu from which you can launch FSCapture portable App

Whenever possible I use portable Apps from PStart menu which can also be used when Not booting with 7PE

http://www.msfn.org/...e-windows-7-pe/

Quote

Copy PStart folder and wallpaper.jpg and drv folder with drivers as normal from Make_PE3\MULTI to root of HDD or USB boot drive.

This post has been edited by wimb: 18 July 2012 - 05:37 AM

[click-click]

I am using the portable version. In a system built with MAKE_PE3, it has this delay problem not on another PE I used. Have you tried what I described?

This post has been edited by click-click: 18 July 2012 - 06:36 AM

[wimb]

Normally drivers are installed by driver_fix.cmd but when I press C for cancel of driver install
then I get the same problem that you mentioned.

So it is some service not running yet or some driver that is not yet installed and that might give the trouble.

Do you use unmodified driver_fix.cmd and can you add proper LAN + WLAN driver from DriverPacks and
add it in Make_PE3\PE3_mod\WIN7_drivers\x86

At first I suspected the video driver, but that is not the cause of the trouble.

This post has been edited by wimb: 18 July 2012 - 09:34 AM