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#1 User is offline   Chris Lee 

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Posted 01 February 2004 - 03:34 PM

I tried unextracting it, doesn't work. What switch would I use to make it run silently?


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Posted 01 February 2004 - 04:01 PM

I'm looking for the same thing
I've email cerulean studios
waiting for an answer
btw 2.01 is up....

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Posted 01 February 2004 - 04:47 PM

Oh, thanks, I'll got that version now, please update me with what they replied, that'd be great :)

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 07:34 AM

I think I posted this somewhere else, but in my experience Trillian does not really need the installer. The only changes it makes to your system are copying files to the install directory (e.g. C:\Program Files\Trillan) and the start menu and adding the uninstall entry to the registry. So what I do is put the files from my existing Trillian install folder into $Progs (and whatever start menu shortcuts into $Docs/All Users/Start Menu/Programs) and let Windows copy them over. Just make sure you make them not read-only (i.e. ATTRIB -R "C:\Program Files\Trillian" /S /D) when you are done. If you really need the uninstall key in Add/Remove programs, just add the following to the registry manually using a .REG file.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Trillian]
"DisplayName"="Trillian"
"UninstallString"="C:\\Program Files\\Trillian\\trillian.exe /uninstall"


Hope that helps you.
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Posted 02 February 2004 - 08:56 AM

from the support team

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There are no switches for a silent install for Trillian, although it has been requested numerous times.

Glenn


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Posted 02 February 2004 - 09:15 AM

Wow, that's uh..very nice of them...:) if it's requested many times, it should be built in.....Do you think there's a way to extract the files and somehow install successfully for the xp-to-be?

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There are no switches for a silent install for Trillian, although it has been requested numerous times.

Glenn


johann83, can I somehow switch the C:\ drive variable? Because I want my cd to work on all drives they want to install on.

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 09:37 AM

well it creates
bulk.dat 12.8mb
com.dat 4.79mb files in the temp folder and it says its extracting the stuff from those to the install path. so its something like a zipped archive I guess.. I cannot really look at the registry I don't want to uninstall. (I'm lazy)

yes very nice of them. I'll try to dig up more.

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 09:39 AM

Chris Lee, on Feb 2 2004, 10:15 AM, said:

johann83, can I somehow switch the C:\ drive variable? Because I want my cd to work on all drives they want to install on.

i think u can make some sort of if else statement (with batch vbs whatever u like)
then by doing then u can get the environment variables then have some ready made reg for them and copy accordingly.

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 09:48 AM

Chris Lee, on Feb 2 2004, 09:15 AM, said:

johann83, can I somehow switch the C:\ drive variable? Because I want my cd to work on all drives they want to install on.

I assume you mean for the Uninstall string, since everything else I posted should work as long as they want to install Trillain to Program Files (I think it should go to wherever Program Files is, but I have never tested it). And I only use the $Progs directory because it is there, you could copy the files manually to whereever you want to "intall" them.

As far as the uninstall registry entry, I think you could use the REG command from a batch. Like so:
SET KEY="HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Trillian"
REG ADD %KEY% /V "DisplayName" /D "Trillian"
REG ADD %KEY% /V "UninstallString" /D "%SYSTEMDRIVE%\Program Files\Trillian\trillian.exe /uninstall"


Or you can replace the %SYSTEMDRIVE% variable and the path with anything you want. So if you want to use any arbitrary directory to "install" Trillian, you could use a batch like this (replacing <PathToTrillianSource> in the .CMD file with wherever the source files are):
@ECHO OFF
XCOPY <PathToTrillianSource>\Trillian %1%\Trillian /E /C /I /Q /Y
SET KEY="HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Trillian"
REG ADD %KEY% /V "DisplayName" /D "Trillian" /F
REG ADD %KEY% /V "UninstallString" /D "%1%\Trillian\trillian.exe /uninstall" /F


And you would simply call like so:
InstallTrillian.cmd <PathToTrillanInstall>


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Posted 02 February 2004 - 09:53 AM

actually do u even need the uninstall string? in the registry?
try without it. It should work.
after all its uninstall reg. u'd need it after u decide to uninstall
after that u can just type in the command line trillian.exe /uninstall and it'd uninstall I guess.

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Posted 02 February 2004 - 10:15 AM

XtremeMaC, on Feb 2 2004, 09:53 AM, said:

actually do u even need the uninstall string? in the registry?
try without it. It should work.
after all its uninstall reg. u'd need it after u decide to uninstall
after that u can just type in the command line trillian.exe /uninstall and it'd uninstall I guess.

No, of course you don't need it.

But if you are installing on someone else's machine who might want to uninstall Trillian later, it would be nice. Otherwise, Trillian works prefectly using this method of just copying the files from a current install. I was just trying to give the most complete answer, and using the batch file I provided, I can't see any way that the user could tell the difference between this method and an actual install of Trillian from the downloaded archive.

Of course, there is still the question of migrating user settings if you don't keep them in the Trillian program directory (which I don't). But thats a whole different issue, which I don't have time to discuss now... :)

Matt

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Posted 03 February 2004 - 06:44 PM

I wont need to use the uninstall paths. So I can just copy it over to $PRogs$?

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 05:55 AM

Hey Guys !!
Is there a way to preserve all the previous configuration (accounts, plugins, etc.) between installs ?!
Thanks a LOT !!!

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 06:28 AM

Yes, the profiles are maintained in a seperate directory. You simply need to copy these files over to the new install and then add the profile. If you look under Preferences/Profiles it should tell you where the files are. In my case, I keep them in my user directory (Documents and Settings\Johann\Trillian) and just copy them to the new install of Windows.

I think Trillian gives you the option of opening a profile when you first run it, but it's been a while since I've reinstalled. If not, you should be able to go to the Prefernces/Profiles page and add it. Hope this helps you.

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Posted 11 February 2004 - 06:33 AM

Chris Lee, on Feb 3 2004, 06:44 PM, said:

I wont need to use the uninstall paths. So I can just copy it over to $PRogs$?

Sorry, must have missed this post last week. Yes, you can just put it in $Progs, but make sure that you make the files not read-only at the end of your install. I'm not sure what Trillian will do if files are read-only, so I always reset them just to be safe. You should be able to use something like this in a batch:
ATTRIB -R "%ProgramFiles%\Trillian" /S /D


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Posted 12 February 2004 - 12:28 AM

oK, I'll try that, thanks.

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Posted 09 January 2005 - 01:02 PM

Rather then use $Prog method, I use a WinRAR SFX to install. This way there is no need for the ATTRIB -R "%ProgramFiles%\Trillian" /S /D part.. The SFX will be readonly but the files inside will not be.

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Posted 09 January 2005 - 01:32 PM

In the past i have simply done a file copy, however i have noticed that i generally have to reinstall it in a few months due to strange stability issues and wrong email linking

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Posted 09 January 2005 - 03:57 PM

Wow... way to resurrect a yr old post!!

heh

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Posted 09 January 2005 - 06:00 PM

hehe... yeah precisely 11 months old!


@everybody
Trillian 3 has come out, and its the same installer for both pro/basic.
Same method as always - directly copy out the previously installed files.


@Drewdatrip
Oh, I'm not sure of Trillian v2 or v3, but at a client's place with Trillian Pro v1.01 its been working just as it always was. Dunno if someone might be deleting files just to give you annoyances....
One gripe though, is that version has no voice/video chatting available - but that's perfectly fine in an office environment.

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