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From the Opera desktop development blog:

http://my.opera.com/...dx=150#comments

Yowanvista # 18. June 2010, 07:47

Originally posted by jlorentz:

Still getting message with this release:

Failed to load opera.dll because: a dynamic link library (DLL) initilization failed.

Using Win 98 SE


Upgrade to a newer OS
Win98 is old and support is discontinued

Minimum requirements:
Windows 2000 on a Pentium II
128 MB of RAM
20 MB of free disk space
http://www.opera.com...rt/kb/view/386/

The Opera page cited also contains some additional, ambiguous language under the heading "Minimum configuration for Opera:"

"Although Opera may run on older hardware and older versions of Windows, it will be less usable. If you are using such hardware or software, you may be better off installing a legacy version of Opera."

The poster yowanvister does not appear to work or speak for Opera. See http://my.opera.com/Yowanvista/about/

Is the Win 2000 minimum OS language on this page new from Opera or has it been there before 10.6?

Does anyone what is going on in Opera re Win 98? I have not seen any discussion in the Opera forum, http://my.opera.com/...forum.dml?id=26

I do believe Opera needs to hear from people using it under Win 98.

Earlier related post: Opera 10.6 Beta Doesn't Start, http://www.msfn.org/...a-doesnt-start/


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What about Flash? How will you load it on a 98 machine?

Edited by e-berlin, 19 June 2010 - 03:44 AM.


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Is the Win 2000 minimum OS language on this page new from Opera or has it been there before 10.6?

Does anyone what is going on in Opera re Win 98? I have not seen any discussion in the Opera forum, http://my.opera.com/...forum.dml?id=26

I do believe Opera needs to hear from people using it under Win 98.

Yes, the Win 2000 minimum requirement has been there for a few months at least. I first noticed it when 10.2 was in beta.


A bit further along in the Opera forum was this comment from Rijk from the Opera development team.

"- if there is a way to fix it without too much trouble, we'll try to do that, but lack of Win98 support isn't a showstopper."

http://my.opera.com/...comment31745912

I think that will be the best we can expect.

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The 10.54 release of Opera (released this morning) still runs just fine on WIN98 with no other operating system changes......

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From the Opera desktop development blog:

http://my.opera.com/...dx=150#comments

Yowanvista # 18. June 2010, 07:47

Originally posted by jlorentz:

Still getting message with this release:

Failed to load opera.dll because: a dynamic link library (DLL) initilization failed.

Using Win 98 SE


Upgrade to a newer OS
Win98 is old and support is discontinued

Minimum requirements:
Windows 2000 on a Pentium II
128 MB of RAM
20 MB of free disk space
http://www.opera.com...rt/kb/view/386/

The Opera page cited also contains some additional, ambiguous language under the heading "Minimum configuration for Opera:"

"Although Opera may run on older hardware and older versions of Windows, it will be less usable. If you are using such hardware or software, you may be better off installing a legacy version of Opera."

The poster yowanvister does not appear to work or speak for Opera. See http://my.opera.com/Yowanvista/about/

Is the Win 2000 minimum OS language on this page new from Opera or has it been there before 10.6?

Does anyone what is going on in Opera re Win 98? I have not seen any discussion in the Opera forum, http://my.opera.com/...forum.dml?id=26

I do believe Opera needs to hear from people using it under Win 98.

Earlier related post: Opera 10.6 Beta Doesn't Start, http://www.msfn.org/...a-doesnt-start/



http://filehippo.com...pera/tech/5329/ shows that the highest Opera version supported by Windows 98 is version 9.64 (it says that it is supported by all versions of Windows). If you look all the way to the right of this page, you can see all other versions of Opera. If you click on Opera 10.0 (under the "Technical" tab), you will see that Windows 2000 -- at a minimum -- is needed. I am currently using Opera 9.64 on my Windows 98 system and it works great.

As an aside, from January until July of this year, I was running Opera 10.10 -- with no problems at all -- because I saw some website in January that said it would be OK to do so. In July I decided to recheck, but I could not find that website again. So, when I saw the filehippo site with its minimum requirements, I decided to downgrade from 10.10 to 9.64. I can't tell a bit of difference between the two versions.

I hope this info is helpful.

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What about Flash? How will you load it on a 98 machine?



The best place to get all the info you need -- and fast -- is at the Adobe Flash Player forum at http://forums.adobe....s/flash_player. You can post your message and they will give you all the details (and follow-ups, if necessary). Installing Flash Player on a Windows 98 system is a piece of cake. But Flash 9 is the highest version you can use (without resorting to KernelEx, etc., which I absolutely know nothing about).

One thing I found, though, with my Windows 98 system was that Flash Player version 9.0.47.0 (and all versions older than this) worked great on sites like YouTube, while the next newer version, 9.0.115.0 (and all versions newer than this), would always crash the browser on YouTube or lead to a computer hang or crash. I don't understand why this is so, and I plan to post a message here to see if anyone knows why. By the way, the "Netscape" type browsers I successfully use Flash Player 9.0.47.0 with are Firefox 2.0.0.20, Netscape 9.0.0.6, and Opera 9.64.

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What about Flash? How will you load it on a 98 machine?



The best place to get all the info you need -- and fast -- is at the Adobe Flash Player forum at http://forums.adobe....s/flash_player. You can post your message and they will give you all the details (and follow-ups, if necessary). Installing Flash Player on a Windows 98 system is a piece of cake. But Flash 9 is the highest version you can use (without resorting to KernelEx, etc., which I absolutely know nothing about).

One thing I found, though, with my Windows 98 system was that Flash Player version 9.0.47.0 (and all versions older than this) worked great on sites like YouTube, while the next newer version, 9.0.115.0 (and all versions newer than this), would always crash the browser on YouTube or lead to a computer hang or crash. I don't understand why this is so, and I plan to post a message here to see if anyone knows why. By the way, the "Netscape" type browsers I successfully use Flash Player 9.0.47.0 with are Firefox 2.0.0.20, Netscape 9.0.0.6, and Opera 9.64.

I hope this info is helpful to you.

larryb123456



There seems to be a problem with the Adobe link above. Let's try http://forums.adobe.com

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The problem is the dot (.) after the URL.

This URL is invalid:
http://forums.adobe....s/flash_player.
This URL is valid:
http://forums.adobe....rs/flash_player

HTH

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I hope that what I am reading on this web site--http://news.softpedia.com/news/Opera-10-61-RC2-Proves-Windows-98-Still-in-Use-150227.shtml
is true:
If it is, than everyone here should give a very royal toast to the Opera people!
If only the anti-virus makers would not leave us out too!

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The problem is the dot (.) after the URL.

This URL is invalid:
http://forums.adobe....s/flash_player.
This URL is valid:
http://forums.adobe....rs/flash_player

HTH

Yes, you are right. When I went to forums.adobe.com and clicked on the Adobe Flash Player link to get the URL, it came up without the period. I mistakenly added the period too close to the URL (at the end of the sentence), and it erroneously became part of the URL. A careless mistake on my part. Sorry for the confusion.

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Opera has formally dropped support for Win98/ME starting with Opera 11.

The setup program for Opera 11 will NOT run under normal Win98/ME OSes telling you that it requires Win2000 or later.

Even running the Opera 11 setup program on 98/ME systems with KernelEx installed (any recent version of KernelEx) fails bigtime. Attempted to run in WinXP SP2 compatibility mode, setup program extracts files but silently quits and doesn't display an installation dialog box; no Opera files get installed (aw, bummer). Attempted Opera 11 setup program to run in Win2000 compatibility mode, install dialog box is displayed but installation fails with error message "Failed to obtain write access to installation folder. Error code: 6" after clicking on the Agree & Install button.

Sorry folks. :(

Edited by erpdude8, 25 December 2010 - 09:54 AM.


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Erpude8, Opera 11 indeed can't be install by setup file but you can install it manually or via Autoupdate (from previous version).

Look at this post and below.

Edited by rainyd, 25 December 2010 - 04:37 PM.


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Even running the Opera 11 setup program on 98/ME systems with KernelEx installed (any recent version of KernelEx) fails.

erpdude8,

as rainyd said, there is still 4 opportunities:

  • - (auto-) update from inside Opera 10
  • - extract files from the installer with 7-Zip (it is a 7z SFX) and replace them in Opera directory(ies)
  • - use the portable version Opera@USB
  • - run the installer on an USB key, on a supported OS, and create a standalone install on this key ... then you will be able to copy it on your Win 98/Me PC.
In all cases you need KernelEx 4.5 RC5 or newer installed,
and to set 'opera.exe' compatibility on 'Windows 2000 SP4'.

HTH.




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