[DJB]

OK

I've created a install.wim file which only has Windows 7 Ultimate 32+64 bit (no other editions are included).
I look at my install.wim via 7-zip and I notice there's also a folder called "Files" there (along with the "1" + "2" folder, plus the 1.xml file)
Now upon extracting this folder, it's like 500mb, so I'd really like to be able to get rid of it to cut down on the ISO size.

I know that this is not required in the .wim file but I'm unable to work out how to remove it.

So, if possible I'd like to know either how to delete the "Files" folder, or if need be to create a whole new .wim file.

Thanks in advance.

This post has been edited by DJB: 14 July 2010 - 06:06 AM

[Tripredacus]

I've heard that you can use 7Zip to modify WIM files but is there a specific reason you aren't using WAIK to do this?

[nice_guy75]

I don't think 7zip is the right tool to for wim files. I have also looked by wim via 7zip and what I can see two folder and a xml file.

I would suggest you to better use WAIK for vista or WAIK for windows 7 for wim files.

This post has been edited by nice_guy75: 14 July 2010 - 07:58 AM

[DJB]

Yes I used the WAIK to initially create the wim file, but i'm not sure on how to get rid of that extra folder.

[nice_guy75]

DJB, on 14 July 2010 - 08:05 AM, said:

Yes I used the WAIK to initially create the wim file, but i'm not sure on how to get rid of that extra folder.

Which extra folder you are talking about????????? If you are talking the ones you see with 7zip then forget about this, after installation you won't see that folder. The folders you see by mounting only those folder would be there after installation.

[johnhc]

DJB, on 14 July 2010 - 08:05 AM, said:

Yes I used the WAIK to initially create the wim file, but i'm not sure on how to get rid of that extra folder.

DJB, I also don't know what extra folder you are talking about, but after you use DISM to mount your image, you can go into the folder it is mounted to and delete away. Enjoy, John.

[nice_guy75]

johnhc, on 14 July 2010 - 08:40 AM, said:

DJB, I also don't know what extra folder you are talking about, but after you use DISM to mount your image, you can go into the folder it is mounted to and delete away. Enjoy, John.

I guess there is no extra folder in his install.wim. He is just looking his wim via 7zip and I have also tried with 7zip it shows some strange folder in the wim. Mine showing two folders "1" and "files" and I know there are no such folder in my wim I have already tried my install.wim and is working fine without any extra folders.

[bensam56]

Just export that image 1 and you will not see Files folder.....

[johnhc]

nice_guy75, on 14 July 2010 - 08:43 AM, said:

johnhc, on 14 July 2010 - 08:40 AM, said:

DJB, I also don't know what extra folder you are talking about, but after you use DISM to mount your image, you can go into the folder it is mounted to and delete away. Enjoy, John.

I guess there is no extra folder in his install.wim. He is just looking his wim via 7zip and I have also tried with 7zip it shows some strange folder in the wim. Mine showing two folders "1" and "files" and I know there are no such folder in my wim I have already tried my install.wim and is working fine without any extra folders.

nice_guy75, I just opened install.wim with 7-Zip (9.13 Beta) and I see folders 1,2,3,4, Files and an xml file. The four number folders are the different versions of W7 - Basic -> Ultimate. If you open one of these folders you will see Windows, Users and other W7 install folders. Enjoy, John.

[jaclaz]

For the record, 7-zip has read-only access to WIM files ONLY.

On XP you can use (if you also have a Windows 7) this tool:
http://www.boot-land...?showtopic=9765
with this approach you need NOT the WAIK.

jaclaz

[DJB]

OK I tried DISM but it will only let me mount the "1" or "2" folder, so I can't open the "Files" folder what so ever

For the people who don't know what I'm talking about, take a look at the screenshot I attached.

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[johnhc]

DJB, on 14 July 2010 - 05:27 PM, said:

OK I tried DISM but it will only let me mount the "1" or "2" folder, so I can't open the "Files" folder what so ever

For the people who don't know what I'm talking about, take a look at the screenshot I attached.

DJB, I misunderstood your desire to delete the Files folder. It would seem, so far, that only jaclaz has a proposed method to recreate the .wim file after deleting it. Do you have any idea what will be the effect if you delete the file? Why do you want to delete it? Typically I would not think that MS would include a 500 MB folder if the files were not needed for something. Have you done any research on what the files are used for? I just searched my W7 installation and found no Files folder or 36338 file. Enjoy, John.

[DJB]

ok i used the imagex /export option and exported folders 1 and 2 to a new wim file. No more files folder and a reduction in about 100mb

Now I just have to test it.

[DJB]

johnhc, on 14 July 2010 - 05:45 PM, said:

DJB, I misunderstood your desire to delete the Files folder. It would seem, so far, that only jaclaz has a proposed method to recreate the .wim file after deleting it. Do you have any idea what will be the effect if you delete the file? Why do you want to delete it? Typically I would not think that MS would include a 500 MB folder if the files were not needed for something. Have you done any research on what the files are used for? I just searched my W7 installation and found no Files folder or 36338 file. Enjoy, John.

The reason why I think it created that folder is because I deleted folders 1-4 on my 32bit disc so I only had Ultimate 32

[johnhc]

DJB, on 14 July 2010 - 05:52 PM, said:

johnhc, on 14 July 2010 - 05:45 PM, said:

DJB, I misunderstood your desire to delete the Files folder. It would seem, so far, that only jaclaz has a proposed method to recreate the .wim file after deleting it. Do you have any idea what will be the effect if you delete the file? Why do you want to delete it? Typically I would not think that MS would include a 500 MB folder if the files were not needed for something. Have you done any research on what the files are used for? I just searched my W7 installation and found no Files folder or 36338 file. Enjoy, John.

The reason why I think it created that folder is because I deleted folders 1-4 on my 32bit disc so I only had Ultimate 32

DJB, here is screen shot of my install.wim after dism has been run on it. I have deleted none of the unused images. My original DVD install.wim does not have the Files folder. Enjoy, John.

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[DJB]

@johnhc

If you try bensam56's solution you can delete the files folder.
As far as I know it doesnt interfere with any installations if you delete it.

From what I've read, the "Files" folder is basically where deleted files go as imagex doesnt actually delete files from the .wim file.
If you use the imagex /export on your 1,2,3 and 4 folders you can create a fresh .wim file.

here's an example of the command-line (note you dont need to mount any images)

Imagex /export "[original .wim file]" [index number] "[new wim file]" "[windows title ie: Windows 7 ULTIMATE]"

It will create a new .wim file from scratch too, so you dont need to export into an existing .wim.

[johnhc]

DJB, on 14 July 2010 - 06:14 PM, said:

@johnhc

If you try bensam56's solution you can delete the files folder.
As far as I know it doesnt interfere with any installations if you delete it.

From what I've read, the "Files" folder is basically where deleted files go as imagex doesnt actually delete files from the .wim file.
If you use the imagex /export on your 1,2,3 and 4 folders you can create a fresh .wim file.

here's an example of the command-line (note you dont need to mount any images)

Imagex /export "[original .wim file]" [index number] "[new wim file]" "[windows title ie: Windows 7 ULTIMATE]"

It will create a new .wim file from scratch too, so you dont need to export into an existing .wim.

DJB, I was aware of the Export function from ricktendo64's videos - think I used Export once. Since my posted screen shot has a Files folder, it must not be from deleting images since I deleted none. It must be from just running dism since that is all I have done to the install.wim. I added drivers and hot fixes but did not remove any packages. I just opened several boot.wim files with 7-Zip. All have a Files folder. The original has on one file and is 72 bytes. The one I have added a driver to has many files and is about 30 MB - weird. Thanks, John.

EDIT: The question is is the install.wim file any smaller without the Files folder?

This post has been edited by johnhc: 14 July 2010 - 06:33 PM

[DJB]

johnhc, on 14 July 2010 - 06:31 PM, said:

DJB, I was aware of the Export function from ricktendo64's videos - think I used Export once. Since my posted screen shot has a Files folder, it must not be from deleting images since I deleted none. It must be from just running dism since that is all I have done to the install.wim. I added drivers and hot fixes but did not remove any packages. I just opened several boot.wim files with 7-Zip. All have a Files folder. The original has on one file and is 72 bytes. The one I have added a driver to has many files and is about 30 MB - weird. Thanks, John.

EDIT: The question is is the install.wim file any smaller without the Files folder?

Yes the install.wim will be smaller without the Files folder. I saved nearly 100mb in my scenario.

[urie]

DJB, on 14 July 2010 - 06:37 PM, said:

johnhc, on 14 July 2010 - 06:31 PM, said:

DJB, I was aware of the Export function from ricktendo64's videos - think I used Export once. Since my posted screen shot has a Files folder, it must not be from deleting images since I deleted none. It must be from just running dism since that is all I have done to the install.wim. I added drivers and hot fixes but did not remove any packages. I just opened several boot.wim files with 7-Zip. All have a Files folder. The original has on one file and is 72 bytes. The one I have added a driver to has many files and is about 30 MB - weird. Thanks, John.

EDIT: The question is is the install.wim file any smaller without the Files folder?

Yes the install.wim will be smaller without the Files folder. I saved nearly 100mb in my scenario.

What i don't understand is if each of those folders represent versions of windows 7 in the wim image surly there should be 5 folders in x86 install.wim i,e from starter to ultimate.

[DJB]

there was 5 folders in the x86, and i deleted the first 4