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Windows 98 installation blows up on Shuttle XPC...then completes?! An outline of issues with Shuttle XPC SN21G5 + 98SE Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 11:22 PM

View Postdencorso, on 15 August 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

The Win 9x default chipset drivers are not nearly as bad as you make them, wsxedcrfv. Then, there's Bearwindows VBEMP(9x) and also Tihiy's tweaked Win3x SVGA drivers for Win9x (which can run in safe mode, too). While it's not perfect, this is sufficient for many users. I think you've made your point, already, wsxedcrfv: there's no need to hammer it down. With more modern boards, there's a limit to what one can do. But some of us can live with it (see, for instance, Sfor's thread on the Eee PC, where there are links to VBEMP(9x), too).

@RLoew: If you didn't already know about Tihiy's drivers, you might find them interesting. I do use them for Safe Mode, and I'm quite satisfied with the result.

I downloaded it in April. The copy I got was corrupt so I didn't do anything with it.
I downloaded it again earlier tonight, got an even shorter file, that was unuseable.
I just downloaded it a third time and got a good copy. I will look at it.


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Posted 16 August 2010 - 11:39 PM

View Postrloew, on 15 August 2010 - 11:22 PM, said:

View Postdencorso, on 15 August 2010 - 01:04 PM, said:

The Win 9x default chipset drivers are not nearly as bad as you make them, wsxedcrfv. Then, there's Bearwindows VBEMP(9x) and also Tihiy's tweaked Win3x SVGA drivers for Win9x (which can run in safe mode, too). While it's not perfect, this is sufficient for many users. I think you've made your point, already, wsxedcrfv: there's no need to hammer it down. With more modern boards, there's a limit to what one can do. But some of us can live with it (see, for instance, Sfor's thread on the Eee PC, where there are links to VBEMP(9x), too).

@RLoew: If you didn't already know about Tihiy's drivers, you might find them interesting. I do use them for Safe Mode, and I'm quite satisfied with the result.

I downloaded it in April. The copy I got was corrupt so I didn't do anything with it.
I downloaded it again earlier tonight, got an even shorter file, that was unuseable.
I just downloaded it a third time and got a good copy. I will look at it.

I tried the SVGA Drivers both in Normal Mode and in Safe Mode. Windows worked but DOS Boxes do not. I could run a Full-Screen DOS but got a Black Screen on exit.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 12:32 AM

Well, it seems the DOS boxes are the problem area, here as well as in bearwindows VBEMP(9x)... :(
I hadn't noticed it, because when I enter Safe mode (which is quite rare), it is to do things I cannot do in a DOS box, or are easier to do from windows. Like removing installed drivers from Device Manager or editing the registry. Most things I'd need a DOS box to do, I can also do from true DOS, so I boot to it, instead of to Safe Mode.
It's a pity, because this means we still do not have a fully usable generic video driver. :(

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