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#381 tomasz86

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 06:06 AM

@blackwingcat

It's just a comment / suggestion. You add and remove Cryptographic Services using a combination of SC.EXE, NET.EXE and update.inf:

[Product.Add.Reg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc", "Description", 0,"Provides three management services: Catalog Database Service, which confirms the signatures of Windows files; Protected Root Service, which adds and removes Trusted Root Certification Authority certificates from this computer; and Key Service, which helps enroll this computer for certificates. If this service is stopped, these management services will not function properly. If this service is disabled, any services that explicitly depend on it will fail to start."
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc\Parameters"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc\Parameters", "ServiceDll", 0x00020000, "%SystemRoot%\SystemXP\cryptsvc.dll"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc\Parameters", "ServiceMain", 0, "CryptServiceMain"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc\Security"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc\Security", "Security",0x01, 00,00,0e,00,01
HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Svchost","CryptWp",0x00010000,"CryptSvc"

[ProcessesToRun]
"sc create CryptSvc binpath= ""%systemroot%\system32\svchost.exe -k CryptWp"" type= share start= auto displayname= ""Cryptographic Services"" depend= RpcSs"

[ProcessesToRunBeforeUninstall]
"net stop CryptSvc"
"sc delete CryptSvc"

All of this can be done through update.inf without using any other tools. This is an alternative way:

[Save.Reg.For.Uninstall]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc"
HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Svchost","CryptWp"

[Product.Add.Reg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc","Description",,"Provides key management services for this computer."
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc","Type",0x10001,0x20
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc","Start",0x10001,0x2
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc","ErrorControl",0x10001,0x1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc","ImagePath",0x20000,"system32\svchost.exe -k CryptWp"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc","DisplayName",,"Cryptographic Services"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc","DependOnService",0x10000,"RpcSs"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc","ObjectName",,"LocalSystem"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc\Parameters","ServiceDll",0x20000,"%%SystemRoot%%\SystemXP\cryptsvc.dll"
HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\CryptSvc\Parameters","ServiceMain",,"CryptServiceMain"
HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Svchost","CryptWp",0x10000,"CryptSvc"

The key point is that in "ImagePath" you don't need to specify a full path as it automatically assumes that the path is inside %systemroot% so "system32\svchost.exe -k CryptWp" is enough.

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 04:44 PM

blackwingcat, on 08 September 2012 - 04:49 AM, said:

The crash reason is the ImageList structure of windows 2000 is different from XP's.
You can run it with the follwoing way.

* download Windows XP MS12-048:
* extract WindowsXP-KB2691442-x86-XXX.exe /x
* copy shell32.dll to %ProgramFiles%\FreeFileSync\Bin

tomasz86, on 08 September 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

@blackwingcat

FreeFileSync doesn't work with kernel v21a

It works in a "stock" system. After installing the kernel it doesn't even start.

DRWatson error from Event Viewer:

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The application, , generated an application error The error occurred on 09/08/2012 @ 09:13:55.507 The exception generated was c0000005 at address 02691535 (getIconByIndex)

I'm still unable to make FreeFileSync start

Nothing happens even after copying shell32.dll from XP's KB2691442 to the Bin folder. Does it work on your computer?

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:37 AM

Yes, I could run it.

You can use shlwaxp.dll and shellxp.dllwhich are inclueded in itunes installer for WIndows 2000.
and plz set dynamic link mode with fcwin.

tomasz86, on 04 November 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

I'm still unable to make FreeFileSync start

Nothing happens even after copying shell32.dll from XP's KB2691442 to the Bin folder. Does it work on your computer?

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 08:52 AM

I'm still unable to make it run.

I've changed dependencies like this:

rplbfile FreeFileSync_Win32.exe shell32.dll shellXP.dll

and tried to start it both with shell32.dll (renamed to shellXP.dll) from KB2691442 and shellXP.dll from KDW. There's no error in the Event Viewer or in DrWatson but the program just doesn't start. Nothing happens after double-clicking on it

I wonder whether it would be possible to just make it work normally without changing anything. FreeFileSync itself does work in a stock Win2k...

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:03 PM

@Blackwingcat

Hello Blackwingcat! One of the reasons I install Windows 2k is to use legacy software - could the installation of KernelEx or Kernel Core break compatibility of DOS/WIN3.1/WIN9x applications and games?

And for anybody willing to reply, what exactly is the difference between KernelEx and Kernel Core? It's hard to find info..

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:46 AM

I've done more testing regarding FreeFileSync. If I install the kernel without shell32.dll then FreeFileSync works. If the new shell32.dll is installed then it doesn't work no matter how I change the dependencies. It just doesn't start

DrWatson shows this error:

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The application, , generated an application error The error occurred on 11/07/2012 @ 16:41:11.511 The exception generated was c0000005 at address 01D41535 (getIconByIndex)

Full log:

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State Dump for Thread Id 0x2f8

eax=00257928 ebx=7c57b5fc ecx=0022eb30 edx=4c4d4948 esi=00000005 edi=7c57b5e8
eip=01d41535 esp=0022eb20 ebp=0022eb38 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00000206


function: getIconByIndex
        01d41515 0f888a000000     js      getIconByIndex+0xb5 (01d415a5)
        01d4151b 85c0             test    eax,eax
        01d4151d 0f848e000000     je      getIconByIndex+0xc1 (01d415b1)
        01d41523 53               push    ebx
        01d41524 56               push    esi
        01d41525 8b7508           mov     esi,[ebp+0x8]          ss:00968a1e=0ec7410c
        01d41528 8d4df8           lea     ecx,[ebp+0xf8]         ss:00968a1e=0ec7410c
        01d4152b 51               push    ecx
        01d4152c c745f800000000   mov   dword ptr [ebp+0xf8],0x0 ss:00968a1e=0ec7410c
        01d41533 8b10             mov     edx,[eax]              ds:00257928=4c4d4948
FAULT ->01d41535 8b5278           mov     edx,[edx+0x78]         ds:4cc0e82e=????????
        01d41538 56               push    esi
        01d41539 50               push    eax
        01d4153a 32db             xor     bl,bl
        01d4153c ffd2             call    edx
        01d4153e 85c0             test    eax,eax
        01d41540 7806             js      getIconByIndex+0x8a58 (01d49f48)
        01d41542 8a5df8           mov     bl,[ebp+0xf8]                ss:00968a1e=0c
        01d41545 80e301           and     bl,0x1
        01d41548 8b45fc           mov     eax,[ebp+0xfc]         ss:00968a1e=0ec7410c
        01d4154b 8d55f4           lea     edx,[ebp+0xf4]         ss:00968a1e=0ec7410c
        01d4154e 52               push    edx

*----> Stack Back Trace <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1  Param#2  Param#3  Param#4  Function Name
0022EB38 00488A3D 00000005 00000001 00000000 000002B4 !getIconByIndex [omap] 
0022EE98 0048AF6C 00000000 77FB7E74 77F81BB8 FFFFFFFF !<nosymbols> [omap] 
0022EF18 0049B866 00000000 00000001 70869C10 0022F1B0 !<nosymbols> [omap] 
0022EFB8 0049BCD5 017246D0 0171FC90 01745328 01719C78 !<nosymbols> [omap] 
0022F018 005109B3 017246D0 0171FC90 0172A500 0022F1B0 !<nosymbols> [omap] 
0022F7E8 0051221A 0022F8F8 0022F8CC 0022F99C 00000000 !<nosymbols> [omap] 
0022F858 005125E8 0022F8F8 0022F8CC 0022F99C 00000000 !<nosymbols> [omap] 
0022FA78 004482B6 0022FB20 00DEAD30 FFFFFFFF 0044734C !<nosymbols> [omap] 
0022FCB8 0064AD26 0022FD5C 00DE0000 00000000 70869C10 !<nosymbols> [omap] 
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 !<nosymbols> [omap] 

*----> Raw Stack Dump <----*
0022eb20  30 eb 22 00 00 00 00 00 - fc b5 57 7c fc b5 57 7c  0.".......W|..W|
0022eb30  00 00 00 00 28 79 25 00 - 98 ee 22 00 3d 8a 48 00  ....(y%...".=.H.
0022eb40  05 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 b4 02 00 00  ................
0022eb50  b0 61 24 00 be b4 fc 77 - 18 b6 fc 77 a8 77 6f 01  .a$....w...w.wo.
0022eb60  00 02 00 00 ea ac fc 77 - 00 00 00 00 cc ee 22 00  .......w......".
0022eb70  41 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  A...............
0022eb80  f0 14 d4 01 4c 6f 63 61 - 6c 5c 7b 43 31 35 37 33  ....Local\{C1573
0022eb90  30 45 32 2d 31 34 35 43 - 2d 34 63 35 65 2d 42 30  0E2-145C-4c5e-B0
0022eba0  30 35 2d 33 42 43 37 35 - 33 46 34 32 34 37 35 7d  05-3BC753F42475}
0022ebb0  2d 6f 6e 63 65 2d 66 6c - 61 67 49 4b 45 43 4f 4a  -once-flagIKECOJ
0022ebc0  41 41 49 47 43 41 41 41 - 41 41 00 77 00 00 00 00  AAIGCAAAAA.w....
0022ebd0  05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
0022ebe0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
0022ebf0  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
0022ec00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
0022ec10  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
0022ec20  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
0022ec30  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
0022ec40  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
0022ec50  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................

State Dump for Thread Id 0x4f8

eax=77d37dd0 ebx=00246808 ecx=0022ec38 edx=00000000 esi=002466f0 edi=00000100
eip=77f88b37 esp=01abfe28 ebp=01abff74 iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na pe nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=0038  gs=0000             efl=00000202


function: NtReplyWaitReceivePortEx
        77f88b2c b8ac000000       mov     eax,0xac
        77f88b31 8d542404         lea     edx,[esp+0x4]          ss:021f9d0f=????????
        77f88b35 cd2e             int     2e
        77f88b37 c21400           ret     0x14
        77f88b3a 8bff             mov     edi,edi

*----> Stack Back Trace <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1  Param#2  Param#3  Param#4  Function Name
01ABFF74 77D58E4A 77D3AEED 002466F0 77D50101 00230000 !NtReplyWaitReceivePortEx [omap] 
01ABFFA8 77D37DE8 002464B0 01ABFFEC 7C57B3BC 00246808 !TowerConstruct [omap] 
01ABFFB4 7C57B3BC 00246808 77D50101 00230000 00246808 !I_RpcConnectionInqSockBuffSize2 [omap] 
01ABFFEC 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 !lstrcmpiW [omap] 

State Dump for Thread Id 0x4c0

eax=7ce85b03 ebx=00000102 ecx=00640062 edx=00000000 esi=77f88398 edi=01cbff74
eip=77f883a3 esp=01cbff60 ebp=01cbff7c iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=0038  gs=0000             efl=00000206


function: NtDelayExecution
        77f88398 b832000000       mov     eax,0x32
        77f8839d 8d542404         lea     edx,[esp+0x4]          ss:023f9e47=????????
        77f883a1 cd2e             int     2e
        77f883a3 c20800           ret     0x8
        77f883a6 8bff             mov     edi,edi

*----> Stack Back Trace <----*

FramePtr ReturnAd Param#1  Param#2  Param#3  Param#4  Function Name
01CBFF7C 7C59A2CC 0000EA60 00000000 7CE89AEA 0000EA60 !NtDelayExecution [omap] 
01CBFF88 7CE89AEA 0000EA60 7CE85BC5 00000000 7CE20000 !Sleep [omap] 
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 !UpdateDCOMSettings [omap] 

*----> Raw Stack Dump <----*
01cbff60  01 a3 59 7c 00 00 00 00 - 74 ff cb 01 31 a0 59 7c  ..Y|....t...1.Y|
01cbff70  60 8d 24 00 00 ba 3c dc - ff ff ff ff 30 75 00 00  `.$...<.....0u..
01cbff80  cc a2 59 7c 60 ea 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 ea 9a e8 7c  ..Y|`..........|
01cbff90  60 ea 00 00 c5 5b e8 7c - 00 00 00 00 00 00 e2 7c  `....[.|.......|
01cbffa0  60 8d 24 00 ec ff cb 01 - 60 8d 24 00 1d 5b e8 7c  `.$.....`.$..[.|
01cbffb0  85 7d e3 7c 70 7d e3 7c - bc b3 57 7c 60 8d 24 00  .}.|p}.|..W|`.$.
01cbffc0  85 7d e3 7c 70 7d e3 7c - 60 8d 24 00 00 c0 fd 7f  .}.|p}.|`.$.....
01cbffd0  62 00 64 00 c0 ff cb 01 - 62 00 64 00 ff ff ff ff  b.d.....b.d.....
01cbffe0  60 21 5c 7c 08 2b 57 7c - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  `!\|.+W|........
01cbfff0  00 00 00 00 03 5b e8 7c - 60 8d 24 00 00 00 00 00  .....[.|`.$.....
01cc0000  c8 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 - ff ee ff ee 02 10 00 00  ................
01cc0010  00 00 00 00 00 fe 00 00 - 00 00 10 00 00 20 00 00  ............. ..
01cc0020  00 02 00 00 00 20 00 00 - 0d 00 00 00 ff ef fd 7f  ..... ..........
01cc0030  06 00 08 06 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
01cc0040  00 00 00 00 98 05 cc 01 - 0f 00 00 00 f8 ff ff ff  ................
01cc0050  50 00 cc 01 50 00 cc 01 - 40 06 cc 01 00 00 00 00  P...P...@.......
01cc0060  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
01cc0070  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
01cc0080  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
01cc0090  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................

Edit: After doing more testing I've found out that FreeFileSync works with:

shell32.dll 5.0.3900.7171 (KB935839-v17c)

but is broken when

shell32.dll 5.0.3900.7177

or newer is installed.

This post has been edited by tomasz86: 07 November 2012 - 11:46 AM

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:34 PM

Hi.
I think the Extended kernel and extended core keep compatibility.

Extended kernel is Windows API Extender.
Extended Core is Kernel (for Driver) Exntender.

gerry9, on 06 November 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:52 PM

Hi.

The error came from Thumbnail_Win32.dll.
you must change the link in Thumbnail_Win32.dll.

If you want more my help, plz see my blog article in 7 hours.

tomasz86, on 06 November 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

I'm still unable to make it run.

I've changed dependencies like this:

rplbfile FreeFileSync_Win32.exe shell32.dll shellXP.dll

I wonder whether it would be possible to just make it work normally without changing anything. FreeFileSync itself does work in a stock Win2k...

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 06:55 AM

Thank you. It works now

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:37 PM

blackwingcat, on 07 November 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

Hi.
I think the Extended kernel and extended core keep compatibility.
Extended kernel is Windows API Extender.
Extended Core is Kernel (for Driver) Exntender.

Thank you! So far no problems with version 22j. Running programs from 1994 to 2012 natively! :thumbup

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:02 AM

I've been experiencing problems with the kernel when /PAE is enabled. Several errors like this one occur:

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This is when trying to use "cdimage.exe" to create an ISO. These errors do NOT show up when /PAE is disabled. Similar things happen with some other programs. I'll try to add some screen shots later if necessary.

This kind of BSODs also happen very often:

Spoiler

I've got files from KB935839-v22j and KB979683-v11b installed:

kernel32.dll 5.0.2195.7193
ntoskrnl.exe 5.0.2195.7386
ntkrnlpa.exe 5.0.2195.7386

Edit: I'm using Multiprocessor kernel.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:02 PM

Which version do you have "cdimage.exe" ?
I have oscdimg.exe v2.55.0.1010 and cdimage.exe v2.47

They work well on my environment.

Does BSOD occur /PAE mode only ?

 memmove:
 DDC666A0  55                        		push	ebp
 DDC666A1  8BEC                      		mov	ebp,esp
 DDC666A3  57                        		push	edi
 DDC666A4  56                        		push	esi
 DDC666A5  8B750C                    		mov	esi,[ebp+0Ch]
 DDC666A8  8B4D10                    		mov	ecx,[ebp+10h]
 DDC666AB  8B7D08                    		mov	edi,[ebp+08h]
 DDC666AE  8BC1                      		mov	eax,ecx
 DDC666B0  8BD1                      		mov	edx,ecx
 DDC666B2  03C6                      		add	eax,esi
 DDC666B4  3BFE                      		cmp	edi,esi
 DDC666B6  7608                      		jbe	LDDC666C0
 DDC666B8  3BF8                      		cmp	edi,eax
 DDC666BA  0F8278010000              		jc 	LDDC66838
 DDC666C0                           LDDC666C0:
 DDC666C0  F7C703000000              		test	edi,00000003h
 DDC666C6  7514                      		jnz	LDDC666DC
 DDC666C8  C1E902                    		shr	ecx,02h
 DDC666CB  83E203                    		and	edx,00000003h
 DDC666CE  83F908                    		cmp	ecx,00000008h
 DDC666D1  7229                      		jc 	LDDC666FC
 DDC666D3  F3A5                      		rep movsd  <<--------

It seems no problem.
Plz give me more information about call stack.

tomasz86, on 11 November 2012 - 01:02 AM, said:

I've been experiencing problems with the kernel when /PAE is enabled. Several errors like this one occur:

Spoiler

I've got files from KB935839-v22j and KB979683-v11b installed:

kernel32.dll 5.0.2195.7193
ntoskrnl.exe 5.0.2195.7386
ntkrnlpa.exe 5.0.2195.7386

Edit: I'm using Multiprocessor kernel.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:26 AM

The version of cdimage.exe is 2.52 here.

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Does BSOD occur /PAE mode only ?

Yes, these instabilities and BSODs happen only when PAE is enabled

I haven't observed any problems (yet?) when it's disabled. As soon as I enable PAE and try to use cdimage.exe I get the error message. It works 100% correctly when PAE is switched off.

I'll try to give you more information when I've got some time to test it more thoroughly.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:43 AM

Can you check execute without extended kernel core ?

tomasz86, on 12 November 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

The version of cdimage.exe is 2.52 here.

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Does BSOD occur /PAE mode only ?

Yes, these instabilities and BSODs happen only when PAE is enabled

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:03 AM

It works properly without the kernel and also works properly with WildBill's kernel (and PAE enabled).

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:17 AM

Is there anything wrong with the download links? I tried downloading these two

http://w2k.flxsrv.or...n2010_w2kex.exe and
http://w2k.flxsrv.or...11b-x86-ENU.exe

but all I got is "Problem loading page".
If necessary, I can provide alternative download links.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:20 PM

Sp0iLedBrAt, on 12 November 2012 - 06:17 AM, said:

Indeed, I cannot download them either. Same error message.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:43 PM

Yesterday the provider said flxsrv.org server problem.

http://maintenance.f...s/cat_9934.html

thx.

jimmsta, on 12 November 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

Sp0iLedBrAt, on 12 November 2012 - 06:17 AM, said:

Indeed, I cannot download them either. Same error message.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:17 AM

FCIV doesn't work with the kernel installed:

//
// File Checksum Integrity Verifier version 2.05.
//

Error during CryptAcquireContext.
Error msg : An internal error occurred.
Error code : 57

It seems to have something to do with the Cryptographic Services.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 06:51 PM

Hello, blackwingcat!
i'm new to here, via google search "windows 2000 kernel32".
It's so great brilliant work you've done! And I came through all the replies from the early 2011 to yesterday. :blushing:

I would say it will be a great help to me if you can release a new Simple-Chinese version, because i really really want to make Daemon Tools Lite 4.40.2.131 or GoAgent (a lovely GAE app that help Chinese people to be able to connect youtube, facebook, twitter, etc) working on my lovely Windows 2000 SP4! The v2 Sim-Chinese version of kernelEx seems a bit old.
I can see you released most version of KernelEx in Tra-Chinese. I don't know if you have a plan or just not bother to release a Sim-Chinese version. Could you give me a reply?
BTW, i don't know programming or some thing similar, so if no Sim-Chinese will be released, i'll just simply use an English Windows 2000 alternatively, then i can still can use the new KernelEx, that's OK - though my English is just soso. :rolleyes: