[JFX]

Thanks for the confirmation of the 2 tweaks

You right about the check box for w8animation, it has currently no effect if the cmdline option is passed.
For Hiberboot I don't plan a GUI option, as most people would properly misunderstand that danger/feature.

This post has been edited by JFX: 09 March 2013 - 10:24 AM

[AQM]

JFX, on 01 November 2012 - 07:17 AM, said:

Hi AQM,

that interesting, Lancelot also reported me such a boot problem and I always thought it would be BIOS related.
But if you say that NT6 bootcode / loader works, than there is some hope to fix it.
Just the problem, I've nothing to reproduce it. Do you have anymore informations like:

- partition alignment
- partition starting offset (maybe above 160 GB ?)
- does real xp setup work in this partition

jfx i have tested this on already installed os's through usb install i used (rufus).
bootmanager of vista 7 shows lineup as xp vista 7 8 already installed with that i have formatted the xp partition because its corrupt.

because bootmanager vista 7 8 exists in boot partition the windows setup entry adds in the boot manager lineup if we use the xp or vista or 7 or 8 setup through winnt setup.

that what i have tested to work successfully with vista 7 8 setup with no issues.

only problem with xp setup through winnt setup which when we format or use a fresh hdd it stucks on after bios post where it must show
windows xp boot screen with blue three suqare dots bar which it doesn't.

strange to see that only through usb setup or through cd setup it works but how to install without cd or usb setup
i mean how to install through internal hd to same internal hd whether laptop or desktop thats the problem.

-partition alignment

what is that i never align the partition always made separate ones one for boot primary boot files of all os's others are logical partitions where the os's are installed.

- partition starting offset (maybe above 160 GB ?)

i have 40 gb partitions for all os from xp to 8

using easy bcd i have all the entries of all os's like xp vista 7 or 8 but when we format the xp partition and and try to install xp again we get error at first reboot after dos txt mode phase completes.

this happens with all methods whether we use winnt setup or usb install or cd install.

error is

ntoskrnl.exe is missing or corrupt
"Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: <Windows root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe. Please re-install a copy of the above file"
i was stuck with that error tried spotmau bootsuite or wondershares liveboot
they fix vista 7 bootloaders and mbr but they dont fix xp error like this one although the program says it fix these and other xp boot file issues.

what it does it rewrites the missing file again ntoskrnl.exe, hal.exe, ntldr file,

then i thought that through another vista installed hdd will do this problem fix in few minutes.

what it does it automatically finds the xp partition and add entry to vista 7 bootmanager but in formatting xp logical partition it doesn't because it couldn't find xp installation.

because xp setup sets up or completes dos txt phase only.

easybcd only add xp entry when it finds os installations manual entry add is possible but i dont know how to configure.

is there a way that winnt setup fix boot.ini appropriately after fresh install of xp to xp formatted partition i mean it refix the boot ini in boot partition when it sets up the installation on hdd through winnt setup.

i mean without running xp cd or usb in recovery console mode and running the bootcfg /rebuild command

so i formatted boot partition and xp partition only and used 7 pe usb to boot and then run the imdisk and winnt setup to run setup xp through that

and the problem after post arises that cursor is blinking on black screen and no further going.

through usb and cd setup install it works but i need this awesome tool which
installs xp faster than cd and little bit faster than usb.

when i used my custom made xp from nlite converted xp pro to media centre edition the method to install xp through winnt setup ask for paths in gui mode
there i have extract the iso contents to a folder and navigate the path whenever its asks for the file it couldn't find.

in the end two addons when the xp installs and asks for account name and settings completes
it couldnt find the two addon files path and wont allow to locate or browse towards the iso complete extract area to manually locate the addon files

it never happpens with sp3 orginal iso msdn version but it happens with this one.

i know that winnt setup is the only way to install xp through hdd without having large usb or dvd writer
u know preparing again and again iso on monthly update bases

is wasting space on hdd usb and cds dvds.

through winnt setup u just have keep the iso or setup files on hdd without the hassle of size and waste of time on preparing usb setup install and cd dvd burning.

please fix the boot issue after winnt setup sets up xp setup on hdd and ask for reboot to start dos txt setup and so on.

regards

AQM

This post has been edited by AQM: 08 November 2012 - 09:53 AM

[JFX]

hmm now I'm more confused then i already was

can you send me 2 files after winntsetup has run?

\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT
\$WIN_NT$.~LS\$OEM$\WinNTSetup.log

BTW: Can you use a XP PE like BartPE or Gena and try from there. But important format the boot partition inside this PE.

[AQM]

JFX, on 08 November 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

hmm now I'm more confused then i already was

can you send me 2 files after winntsetup has run?

\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT
\$WIN_NT$.~LS\$OEM$\WinNTSetup.log

BTW: Can you use a XP PE like BartPE or Gena and try from there. But important format the boot partition inside this PE.

Dear i have installed through usb method and formatted the xp logical partition where these files were ill try to make again and distribute my system config for you as you know formatting xp partition and boot one
will not install and i have to use another hdd or pc to fix my hdd and rebuild boot files through easy bcd.

i have tested this xp setup on vista 7 bootloader through that it add xp's windows setup entry and selecting this entry runs xp setup
but because of formatting xp partition not the boot partition it stucks at after dos txt mode phase completes then gives error of


ntoskrnl.exe is missing or corrupt
"Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: <Windows root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe. Please re-install a copy of the above file"
i have tried spotmau and wondershare iso on usb tried to fix this error
they are capable of fixing this issue they cant fix it

bootmanager of vista 7 fixes through that only formatting the boot partition and then installing xp through
usb or cd and after successful install i use easybcd on vista 7 to rebuild boot files of vista and 7
and adds xp entry it automatically find correct partition fix the xp boot issue.

but this procedure requires another hdd with vista installed on it or another pc with vista to rebuild boot files of vista and 7.

it never happens when we not format the xp partition and delete the contents of xp partition but
i found strange hidden space usage in xp partition which cant be cleared through any cleanup utilities and
that space cant be shown by any partition program the only way found a way to tackle that hidden space usage was
to format xp partition and made two partition .5 gb or 556mb partition for boot primary and 40 gb for others logical partitions.

jfx where can i find bart pe or gena ill try google and one more thing is necessary to use xp pe or gena 7 pe is used is far better than these i guess

[AQM]

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JFX, on 08 November 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

hmm now I'm more confused then i already was

can you send me 2 files after winntsetup has run?

\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT
\$WIN_NT$.~LS\$OEM$\WinNTSetup.log

BTW: Can you use a XP PE like BartPE or Gena and try from there. But important format the boot partition inside this PE.

ok tested in bart pe xp from usb but the same problem of cursor blinking after bios post both files are files.7z the website is not allowing .dat or .log to upload so i made a 7zip file  Files.7z (4.25K)
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[meigyoku]

JFX, I use this tool install Windows 7 Lite
After Installed by WinNTsetup 2.3, I use Norton Ghost create image file (A.GHO)
Extract A.GHO image file to other PC
But after install, Partion installed Windows 7 is named D: (I want it is named C:)

This post has been edited by meigyoku: 08 November 2012 - 11:51 PM

[JFX]

AQM, on 08 November 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

ok tested in bart pe xp from usb but the same problem of cursor blinking after bios post both files are files.7z the website is not allowing .dat or .log to upload so i made a 7zip file Files.7z

Thanks.
Starting offset / Alignment is okay.
MBR and PBR also are good.

Maybe it is really a BIOS problem?

Last idea, would be to use diskpart under xp and clean the whole disk and create a new partition.

[JFX]

meigyoku, on 08 November 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

JFX, I use this tool install Windows 7 Lite
After Installed by WinNTsetup 2.3, I use Norton Ghost create image file (A.GHO)
Extract A.GHO image file to other PC
But after install, Partion installed Windows 7 is named D: (I want it is named C:)

do you used the option in that picture?

Also drive letter is hard code for a partition, you should not use disk imaging here.

This post has been edited by JFX: 09 March 2013 - 10:24 AM

[AQM]

JFX, on 09 November 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

AQM, on 08 November 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

ok tested in bart pe xp from usb but the same problem of cursor blinking after bios post both files are files.7z the website is not allowing .dat or .log to upload so i made a 7zip file Files.7z

Thanks.
Starting offset / Alignment is okay.
MBR and PBR also are good.

Maybe it is really a BIOS problem?

Last idea, would be to use diskpart under xp and clean the whole disk and create a new partition.

Jfx i have tested this on two different motherboards one is GigaByte GA-965P DS3 other one is p5sd2-vm asus both have the same problem.

i formatted partitions using minitool partition wizard professional.

what is diskpart

my hdd contains data its 500 gb what to do which partitions i need to create new the boot one or xp one

and i remember i have this time tested in single partition of 80 gb hdd same issue

This post has been edited by AQM: 09 November 2012 - 09:33 AM

[JFX]

AQM, on 09 November 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

Jfx i have tested this on two different motherboards one is GigaByte GA-965P DS3 other one is p5sd2-vm asus both have the same problem.

hmm, that strange cause bootcode is written correctly BIOS should be the problem. But same issue with two different boards

AQM, on 09 November 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

i formatted partitions using minitool partition wizard professional.

what is diskpart

my hdd contains data its 500 gb what to do which partitions i need to create new the boot one or xp one

and i remember i have this time tested in single partition of 80 gb hdd same issue

Well, it's only an idea that diskpart or diskmanagment under xp can create a more compatible partition.

[AQM]

JFX, on 09 November 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

AQM, on 09 November 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

Jfx i have tested this on two different motherboards one is GigaByte GA-965P DS3 other one is p5sd2-vm asus both have the same problem.

hmm, that strange cause bootcode is written correctly BIOS should be the problem. But same issue with two different boards

AQM, on 09 November 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

i formatted partitions using minitool partition wizard professional.

what is diskpart

my hdd contains data its 500 gb what to do which partitions i need to create new the boot one or xp one

and i remember i have this time tested in single partition of 80 gb hdd same issue

Well, it's only an idea that diskpart or diskmanagment under xp can create a more compatible partition.

how to diskpart is it another program like bart pe or like gena

[click-click]

regarding DiskPart (found it with Google ) Look here

[AQM]

jfx creating partition with diskpart method works now setups working.

one problem its missing a file name msvbvm50.dll during txt mode

i have used the same iso with usb method using rufus and rmprepusb

both methods works without missing any file and no errors during xp setup.

is there program alternative for diskpart like mouse base non command line
program which will be compatible with winnt setup

i tried to find a front end through google ill search more results so far couldn't any front ends.

[JFX]

AQM, on 09 November 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

jfx creating partition with diskpart method works now setups working.

Great, so it was something wrong with this partition.

AQM, on 09 November 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

one problem its missing a file name msvbvm50.dll during txt mode

i have used the same iso with usb method using rufus and rmprepusb

both methods works without missing any file and no errors during xp setup.

Hmm, yes WinntSetup don't support nlited sources fully, sorry.

AQM, on 09 November 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

is there program alternative for diskpart like mouse base non command line
program which will be compatible with winnt setup

i tried to find a front end through google ill search more results so far couldn't any front ends.

You can use the disk management from Windows XP. If diskpart works then this has to work, too.

This post has been edited by JFX: 09 March 2013 - 10:24 AM

[jaclaz]

JFX,
the BOOTSECT.DAT posted by AQM (and as well the bootsector in WinNTSetup.log) are both "wrong".
Sectors before are 0 (should have been 63), i.e. at 0x1C there should be 0x3F and not 0x00.

jaclaz

[Atari800XL]

nLited sources can be tricky for "3rd party" utilities, still I have found WinNTSetup not very "harsh" here, most of my XP installs work (even nLited).
I also love Rufus, but it also cannot fully support every "crazy" nlite thing you throw at it. My experience is: If you only use some basic nLite features, both programs work very well.

[AQM]

jaclaz, on 10 November 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

JFX,
the BOOTSECT.DAT posted by AQM (and as well the bootsector in WinNTSetup.log) are both "wrong".
Sectors before are 0 (should have been 63), i.e. at 0x1C there should be 0x3F and not 0x00.

jaclaz

jaclaz can you tell me how to check, test or verify where is the problem it there a way to fix by myself if not is there a problem with winnt setup program

[AQM]

Atari800XL, on 10 November 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

nLited sources can be tricky for "3rd party" utilities, still I have found WinNTSetup not very "harsh" here, most of my XP installs work (even nLited).
I also love Rufus, but it also cannot fully support every "crazy" nlite thing you throw at it. My experience is: If you only use some basic nLite features, both programs work very well.

is there an alternate for installing xp like winnt setup from internal hdd to internal hdd successfully like these nlited or rvmi slipstreamed iso's

i have used rufus and winnt setup and i found out that my xp install gets corrupted and i could found how during setup i found no errors of install only in winnt setup it asks for paths it couldn't locate manually we have to locate the extracted iso for missing files it could find on winnt setup based folders at installation partition.

my question is that is the cd install is the only to install custom or nlited or rvmi based iso's is it the only to successfully install xp its very slow with cd install do you guys have a best way successful way to install xp through usb or internal hdd install method.

if there isnt then we have to burn and waste dvd-r every time we have to install a complete upto date and custom addons xp iso's

i know rmprepusb rufus and winnt setup they are fast and easy to understand without having deep technical know how do guys have best solutions than these

help would be extremely aprreciated

[AQM]

i have used rmprepusb i have 1.5 gb ram

and i made a iso bigger than ram size i have

is there a way to install xp vista 7 8 through internal HDD i mean iso can be loaded to
hdd's virtual memory like page file or something like virtual ram.

because vista 7 8 xp iso i would like make a bigger one in the future with lots of app addons

because the nature of apps i add the size gets bigger.

i have used rufus, winnt setup but the problem is

like win 98 se setup extracted to a location on hdd one can easily run setup via loading dos and locating partition and run setup and no usb and no cd require and installation period was the fastest.

is there a way to install xp vista 7 8 like that i mean through two ways

through iso file and extracted setup files

i mean a program when we boot pc and before os runs that program os installer or manager or you name it runs and asks for location of iso or setup files location of your liking i mean starting from windows version whether from usb or through installing it to hdd from installed windows or through pe enviroment installing to hdd and then running setup of favourite os'es without the need of removable drives like usb usb hdd cd dvd.

i know it sound crazy but have these crazy ideas in my mind and i am not programmer i wish i was so i could develop a tool which run without even install it and like portable version of os installer like winnt setup but without the need to run through pe or within in os already installed.

i mean a program which we copy to usb or hdd or cd or usb hdd you name works and installs the almost any os for setup files or iso or any know methods.

sorry its not your responsibility but i am just asking

i have just three of these rmprepusb rufus and winnt setup.

are there any other i dont know please provide assitance.

Regards

AQM

[JFX]

jaclaz, on 10 November 2012 - 10:42 AM, said:

JFX,
the BOOTSECT.DAT posted by AQM (and as well the bootsector in WinNTSetup.log) are both "wrong".
Sectors before are 0 (should have been 63), i.e. at 0x1C there should be 0x3F and not 0x00.

Thanks jaclaz.
Wonder how i missed that.

@AQM

If you tell me what exactly you slipped / nlited into your XP CD, I properly can fix it.

This post has been edited by JFX: 09 March 2013 - 10:24 AM