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WinNTSetup v2.3 small tool to Setup Windows from an(y) win32 environment.

#381 User is offline   JFX 

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 07:15 AM

lately we have some funny definitions about english here :w00t:

hmm, no clue what you mean, but i could let it remember the folder of the last selected winnt.sif.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:34 AM

I think this got missed on the previous page with the users long unreadable post! :w00t:

This is the part that is confusing. I have IE9 injected into my Windows 7 sources the same way with DISM and WinNTSetup installs Windows 7 Fine. The only difference is when you use DISM on Vista, Dism calls package manger to do the job but still the same end results. I understand what your saying about not supporting modded sources but why would Windows 7 install fine with WinNTSetup with IE9 and Vista will not with IE9, both Win 7 and Vista are modded in this case? :blink:

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 09:48 AM

View Postladdanator, on 17 November 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

I think this got missed on the previous page with the users long unreadable post! :w00t:

This is the part that is confusing. I have IE9 injected into my Windows 7 sources the same way with DISM and WinNTSetup installs Windows 7 Fine. The only difference is when you use DISM on Vista, Dism calls package manger to do the job but still the same end results. I understand what your saying about not supporting modded sources but why would Windows 7 install fine with WinNTSetup with IE9 and Vista will not with IE9, both Win 7 and Vista are modded in this case? :blink:

Let me see. :dubbio:
A+B=C
A+D=E
B != D -> C !=E

Have you checked the link you were given about the need of some updates for Vista, at least for the "normal" install?
It's a looong shot, but worth a check.

But still, if modded sources are not supported, that does not mean that any and all modded soureces will fail (nor that any and all modded sources will work), it simply means that modded sources are NOT supported (and you are right now asking help/support for modded sources, after having been told how they are not supported :whistle: )

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

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But still, if modded sources are not supported, that does not mean that any and all modded soureces will fail (nor that any and all modded sources will work), it simply means that modded sources are NOT supported (and you are right now asking help/support for modded sources, after having been told how they are not supported :whistle: )


I am not asking for help on modded sources, I am just making a statement about Win7 installing fine with WinNTSetup after the source has been "modded" and Vista which is a NT6x just like 7 and "modded" in the very same way fails. I looked at your link and may leave IE9 out and install with silent install on bootup. My point was that you can see where this is confusing to me that a "modded" 7 will work with this great program but not a "modded" Vista and both are built off the same technology. I know that 7 is different from Vista but both have the same NT6x base and I was just stating my confusion on the matter. Sorry if I came across as "asking for help to get a modded source to work" but just an answer if nothing but a guess as to why 1 works and 1 may not :no: :D

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:58 AM

a question can this also work on windows 8

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 05:57 AM

View Postladdanator, on 17 November 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

My point was ...

I think I understood your point, my point was that the fact that Vista :ph34r: and 7 "have the same NT6x base" does NOT in any way imply that a given tool/method/anything will not fail on one and work on the other, or fail at both or succeed at both.

If you prefer you are assuming that the "have the same NT6x base" implies something (it does not) when it comes to the way a tool - designed for UNmodded sources - behaves with modded ones, and the reason is simple, although they do "have the same NT6x base" they are DIFFERENT, so, as I see it, your apparent surprise at the fact that one works and the other one doesn't has no real reason to be, as a matter of fact I would expect or rate as "probable" that two DIFFERENT Operating Systems, although they "have the same NT6x base" would behave DIFFERENTly.

@PsyDonia
Yes :thumbup , as you might have gathered if you had actualy read a bit on the thread :whistle: :
http://www.msfn.org/...ost__p__1007741

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:30 AM

Hi JFX!
What keys for command line "Desable system restore", "Desable Hibernate" and others?
Thanks

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:18 AM

Hi Scampy82,

there currently are no more command line switches. I will add some useful, but we can't have them for all options.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:19 AM

View PostJFX, on 20 November 2012 - 04:18 AM, said:

Hi Scampy82,

there currently are no more command line switches. I will add some useful, but we can't have them for all options.

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Doesn't this bring us back here ;):
http://www.msfn.org/...post__p__954552
and to .ini files? :unsure:

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:32 AM

View Postjaclaz, on 20 November 2012 - 06:19 AM, said:

Doesn't this bring us back here ;):
http://www.msfn.org/...post__p__954552
and to .ini files? :unsure:

Yes, but apparently people don't like *.ini files :unsure:

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:50 AM

View PostJFX, on 20 November 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

Yes, but apparently people don't like *.ini files Posted Image

BUT :unsure: , are you after making a "better", more "flexible", more "comprehensive" app or a more "popular" one :w00t: ? (not always they are the same thing :ph34r: )

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:45 AM

View PostJFX, on 09 November 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

View Postmeigyoku, on 08 November 2012 - 11:50 PM, said:

JFX, I use this tool install Windows 7 Lite
After Installed by WinNTsetup 2.3, I use Norton Ghost create image file (A.GHO)
Extract A.GHO image file to other PC
But after install, Partion installed Windows 7 is named D: (I want it is named C:)

do you used the option in that picture?
[spoiler]
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[spoiler]

Also drive letter is hard code for a partition, you should not use disk imaging here.


I used the option in that your picture, and this fail:

[spoiler]Posted Image[spoiler]

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 11:57 AM

Meigyoku, good but you can not use Norton Ghost after WinNTSetup has run.
WinNTSetup only tells the windows setup that the selected partition is wanted as C:

If you use disk imaging like Ghost this don't work, as the partition is not found !

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 11:07 PM

View PostJFX, on 22 November 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

Meigyoku, good but you can not use Norton Ghost after WinNTSetup has run.
WinNTSetup only tells the windows setup that the selected partition is wanted as C:

If you use disk imaging like Ghost this don't work, as the partition is not found !

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Maybe I wrong (did not choose Mount install driver as C:), thank you, if have fail I will tell you! :thumbup

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:05 AM

Update: Version 2.3.2.1

- unattended file selection remembers last location
- Fixed a bug in command prompt tweak (Thanks Lancelot)
- Fixed a bug with XP MC/T Editons
- Fixed rare appcrash
- cmdline option win8noanimation now trigger tweak check box
- added new command line options:
DisableSystemRestore, DisableSFC, DisableHibernate, DisablePagefile

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 08:54 AM

Except for DisablesSFC, do the added command line options do the same thing as the related entries in the Admin Tweaks section?

Also what is the advantage of disabling System File Checker?

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:21 AM

View Postclick-click, on 05 December 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Except for DisablesSFC, do the added command line options do the same thing as the related entries in the Admin Tweaks section?
Yes, they only activate the respected tweaks check boxes.

View Postclick-click, on 05 December 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

Also what is the advantage of disabling System File Checker?
During Setup SFC creates NTFS compressed copies of most system files (DllCache), this usually takes a few minutes.
Also you save this ~400MB disk space, that is practically wasted

The SFC on-the-fly protection was long time the most useless feature of windows, but now there a new one called Secure Boot. Posted Image

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 10:17 AM

Thank you JFX for this new Sinterklaas gift (I know you don't understand, It's a Dutch thing...)

I was just doing some testing with Windows 8 DISM, to remove Windows 8 apps from the install.wim. eg. like this:
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingFinance_1.2.0.135_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe

OK, that doesn't directly have anything to do with WinNTSetup, but it *IS* a very big coincidence that I was just checking out this forum, to see that you have more stuff for me to try out (new commandline options, YES!!, I will try out all new ones: DisableSystemRestore, DisableSFC, DisableHibernate, DisablePagefile).

Lucky thing is that I timed my latest install, so I will time it again with these new switches, I'm looking forward to finding out how much time/ space it saves. I have absolutely no need for SystemRestore and SFC, I always use TrueImage, or WinNTsetup with my own PostInstall system for my programs. UltraClean, and also very fast!!!

Thanks again!!!
(PS, if you use the DISM commands below, you are greeted with extactly 3 (!!!) Metro icons upon a clean install!! "Desktop", "Internet Explorer" and "Store").

dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingFinance_1.2.0.135_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingMaps_1.2.0.136_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingNews_1.2.0.135_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingSports_1.2.0.135_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingTravel_1.2.0.145_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.BingWeather_1.2.0.135_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.Bing_1.2.0.137_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.Camera_6.2.8514.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:microsoft.microsoftskydrive_16.4.4204.712_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.Reader_6.2.8516.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_16.4.4206.722_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:microsoft.windowsphotos_16.4.4204.712_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.XboxLIVEGames_1.0.927.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.ZuneMusic_1.0.927.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe
dism /image:d:\mount /Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage /PackageName:Microsoft.ZuneVideo_1.0.927.0_x86__8wekyb3d8bbwe

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:31 PM

No coincidence, for today release. Thought about our version of Sinterklaas called Nikolaus.

Thanks for the dism tip, there are definitively too many icons on the Metro screen.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:13 PM

JFX, could you please elaborate a little on "DisablePagefile"? Is it recommended to turn it off? In which situation could it be a good thing/ or a bad thing to turn it off? Thanks...

This post has been edited by Atari800XL: 05 December 2012 - 01:14 PM


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