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#1 User is offline   cloferba 

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 04:39 PM

i dont know why when i insert the following commands
imagex /export D:\AIO\WIMs\Win64.wim 4 D:\AIO\DVD\sources\install.wim “Windows 7 HOMEBASIC (x64)”


i recieve this:

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/BOOT
Marks a volume image as bootable. Available for Windows PE images only.

/CHECK
Enables WIM integrity checking. If not provided, existing checks are removed

/COMPRESS [maximum | fast | none]
Specifies the type of compression used when exporting to a new WIM file.

/REF splitwim2.swm
Enables the reference of split WIM (SWM) files.

splitwim2.swm - Path to additional split file(s). Wild cards are accepted.

/TEMP
Specifies the path where temporary files are stored.

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If src_name is "*" then all images are exported to dest_file.

Example:
imagex /export d:\imaging\data.wim 1 d:\imaging\newfile.wim "Exported Image"
/BOOT
Marks a volume image as bootable. Available for Windows PE images only.

/CHECK
Enables WIM integrity checking. If not provided, existing checks are removed

/COMPRESS [maximum | fast | none]
Specifies the type of compression used when exporting to a new WIM file.

/REF splitwim2.swm
Enables the reference of split WIM (SWM) files.

splitwim2.swm - Path to additional split file(s). Wild cards are accepted.

/TEMP
Specifies the path where temporary files are stored.

Comments:
If src_name is "*" then all images are exported to dest_file.

Example:
imagex /export d:\imaging\data.wim 1 d:\imaging\newfile.wim "Exported Image"


i have been followin the steps of this tutorial http://www.windowsva...-in-single-dvd/ but it is not working :(
the images of my win7 64bits are not exported to my win7 32bits image :}

This post has been edited by cloferba: 27 February 2011 - 04:42 PM



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Posted 27 February 2011 - 06:49 PM

solved

the problem was the "´s

bad tutorial

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 11:32 AM

Why is the " " bad?

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 08:55 PM

@ cloferba --> I followed the tutorial EXACTLY as it is written a long time ago and it worked fine. From reading the other thread you have about this tutorial I understand you have a very limited understanding of it.

Don't call an excellent thing bad because you have a hard time understanding it.

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 09:18 AM

View Postgrabben, on 28 February 2011 - 11:32 AM, said:

Why is the " " bad?


"Windows 7 HOMEBASIC (x64)"

vs

“Windows 7 HOMEBASIC (x64)”

Looks the same, especially in Notepad, but the quotes are actually different key codes. ;)

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Posted 02 March 2011 - 09:56 AM

View PostTripredacus, on 02 March 2011 - 09:18 AM, said:

View Postgrabben, on 28 February 2011 - 11:32 AM, said:

Why is the " " bad?


"Windows 7 HOMEBASIC (x64)"

vs

"Windows 7 HOMEBASIC (x64)"

Looks the same, especially in Notepad, but the quotes are actually different key codes. ;)



Really?

I use this "<path to waik\...\Imagex.exe" /export "<path to install.wim" <index> "<path to new install.wim" "<indexname>"

Whats the difference?



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Posted 03 March 2011 - 12:29 PM

Grabben, the " used in the OP's post were the incorrect ones.

In the one option there is (double left quote) and (double right quote)
In the other example is (double quote) and (double quote)

They look the same but are read differently by the system. Other fonts (and locales) quotes are used like this and it is difficult to tell. I've encountered this problem in the past so I was able to notice it right away.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 12:57 PM

View PostTripredacus, on 03 March 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

Grabben, the " used in the OP's post were the incorrect ones.

In the one option there is (double left quote) and (double right quote)
In the other example is (double quote) and (double quote)

They look the same but are read differently by the system. Other fonts (and locales) quotes are used like this and it is difficult to tell. I've encountered this problem in the past so I was able to notice it right away.


Ah thanks for the clarification :P
Not 100% awake!

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 12:58 PM

View PostTripredacus, on 03 March 2011 - 12:29 PM, said:

In the one option there is (double left quote) and (double right quote)
In the other example is (double quote) and (double quote)

They look the same but are read differently by the system. Other fonts (and locales) quotes are used like this and it is difficult to tell. I've encountered this problem in the past so I was able to notice it right away.

Just to try and understand, the "right" things are the plain "double quotes", so if you TYPE the commands given in the Tutorial they will work BUT if you attempt a copy and paste it will fail? :unsure:

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 01:09 PM

Of course, like said Tripedacus there are not the same double quotes: "" are not the same as "" (italics) or double left quotes and double right quotes!.

The tutorial is writed with italics letters for the commands, but we need to write without italics inside the command prompt!!

I think it's a style effect!
In this case we can't copy/paste the commands but we need to write yourself inside the command prompt! :)





This post has been edited by myselfidem: 03 March 2011 - 01:28 PM


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Posted 03 March 2011 - 02:26 PM

View Postmyselfidem, on 03 March 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

Of course, like said Tripedacus there are not the same double quotes: "" are not the same as "" (italics) or double left quotes and double right quotes!.

Of course. :yes:

View Postmyselfidem, on 03 March 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

The tutorial is writed with italics letters for the commands, but we need to write without italics inside the command prompt!!

Can you tell me how to write double quotes in Italic on command prompt? :whistle:
(unless you use ALT+0147 and ALT+0148 - and that's NOT "italic")

View Postmyselfidem, on 03 March 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

I think it's a style effect!


No, it is NOT. :no:

Copy and paste the following in a new, empty Notepad window:
BAD QUOTES :“”
GOOD QUOTES :""



Save the file.
Open it with a hex editor:
You will see how the double quote is character 22 whilst left and right quotes are character 93 and 94 hex

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42 41 44 20 51 55 4F 54 45 53 20 3A 93 94 0D 0A BAD QUOTES :“”
47 4F 4F 44 20 51 55 4F 54 45 53 20 3A 22 22 0D GOOD QUOTES :""
0A


View Postmyselfidem, on 03 March 2011 - 01:09 PM, said:

In this case we can't copy/paste the commands but we need to write yourself inside the command prompt! :)

Exactly. :thumbup

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 03 March 2011 - 02:33 PM


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Posted 03 March 2011 - 04:16 PM

Thanks! Sorry, I am not well enough expressed!
I was talking about the style effect inside the tutorial, because the part for the commands are writed with italics letters!

The double quote left (“) and the double quote right (”) don't work inside the command prompt if we copy/paste like this!

The trouble is to copy/paste some commands writed inside some turorials inside the command prompt!

Like you said, inside the command prompt:

BAD QUOTES  : “ ”
GOOD QUOTES: " "



That happends when we copy/paste some texts inside Word documents or Internet tutorials or documents, with some fonts, like Calibri: “example”
We need to change the quotation to : "" inside the command prompt

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This post has been edited by myselfidem: 03 March 2011 - 04:44 PM


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Posted 04 March 2011 - 04:19 AM

Yes :), but what you have wrong is that the issue is NOT about "italics" the only "double quotes" that you can enter by pressing a keyboard key are "plain ones" aka Char hex 22.
A number of word processors/nice GUI programs when they parse a set of double quotes replace them with left and righ quotes, aka Char hex 93 and 94.
This has NOTHING to do with the font used and with the effects applied to the font.

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 06:07 AM

I was talking about copy/paste the commands like there are writed inside the tutorial (italics letters). :)
Doesn't work if we copy/paste inside the command prompt and we must write manually the commands.

Inside the command prompt it seems that the double quotes (originally italics with copy/paste) are writed correctly but they aren't valid!

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 06:57 AM

Yes :), and again, it is not because they are italics, or because they are in Calibri font, it is because the whatever the Author of the Tutorial used to write the html page automatically replaced "plain quotes" with "left and right ones".

This has NOTHING to do with:
  • font used
  • effects (like bold, italics, underlined or striken) applied


I am not talking about the "final result" of the problem I am talking about the cause that you attribute to it.

Let me show you:
Font Courier New:

Quote

plain quotes, normal ""
plain quotes, italics ""
plain quotes, bold ""
plain quotes, underlined ""
plain quotes, striken ""
right and left quotes, normal “”
right and left quotes, italics “”
right and left quotes, bold “”
right and left quotes, underlined “”
right and left quotes, striken “”


Font Microsoft Sans Serif:

Quote

plain quotes, normal ""
plain quotes, italics ""
plain quotes, bold ""
plain quotes, underlined ""
plain quotes, striken ""
right and left quotes, normal “”
right and left quotes, italics “”
right and left quotes, bold “”
right and left quotes, underlined “”
right and left quotes, striken “”



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Posted 04 March 2011 - 08:37 AM

I undertsand what you are talking!
But if you take care the commands are writed with italics letters (font italic Segoe UI 10.5) inside the tutorial:

Imagex /export E:\AIO\WIMs\Windows_7x64_ULT.wim" 3 "E:\AIO\DVD\sources\install.wim" "Windows 7 PROFESSIONAL (x64)"


And if I copy/paste the same font (Italic Segoe UI with this example) inside a Word document (.doc or .docx) and I copy/paste the command line inside the command prompt this one doesn't works!

The trouble is to
copy/paste! :)

Note: Font Segoe UI isn't inside the forum editor and give an different result with copy/paste the line: “” (Font Segoe UI italic inside the forum editor: left double quote isn't originaly like this).

But inside the tutorial with italic Segoe UI the double quotes are like this:
” ”

And of course this can't be working with the command prompt (copy/paste like this)!

Regards

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 09:48 AM

View Postmyselfidem, on 04 March 2011 - 08:37 AM, said:

I undertsand what you are talking!

No, you don't. :(

View Postmyselfidem, on 04 March 2011 - 08:37 AM, said:

The trouble is to copy/paste! :)

Yes, but it has NOTHING to do with fonts and effects applied to that. :realmad:

The source (the tutorial page from which you copy) uses a DIFFERENT, "wrong" character codes for the quotes from the one that it is needed.

The character code has NOTHING to do with font or effects applied to it.

Compare with these (since you appear to use Word):
http://www.ehow.com/...-word-2007.html
http://support.micro...kb/206165/en-us

  • Copy from the source.
  • Paste into word.
  • Select and change in ANY font you like and REMOVE the "italics" effect
  • Do what is in the MS KB under "Replacing Existing Smart Quotes with Straight Quotes"
  • Select and change in ANY font you like and add the "italics" effect
  • Copy from Word
  • Paste on command prompt



However :), I did my best you to explain the real cause of the issue to you, but if you are happy to think that it happens because quotes are in italic, you are perfectly free to do so. :yes:

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 09:56 AM

Right, the italics don't mean anything. All styles are stripped when pasted into Notepad or the Command Prompt (and the forum for that matter), but the problem is that these characters appear the same as the normal double-quote... Of course we can see differences in either the post box, or the code box, and some other programs. Just one of those things I guess. :rolleyes:

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 10:41 AM

View Postjaclaz, on 04 March 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:

Yes, but it has NOTHING to do with fonts and effects applied to that.

The source (the tutorial page from which you copy) uses a DIFFERENT, "wrong" character codes for the quotes from the one that it is needed.

The character code has NOTHING to do with font or effects applied to it.

Compare with these (since you appear to use Word):
http://www.ehow.com/...-word-2007.html
http://support.micro...kb/206165/en-us

  • Copy from the source.
  • Paste into word.
  • Select and change in ANY font you like and REMOVE the "italics" effect
  • Do what is in the MS KB under "Replacing Existing Smart Quotes with Straight Quotes"
  • Select and change in ANY font you like and add the "italics" effect
  • Copy from Word
  • Paste on command prompt

I did my best you to explain the real cause of the issue to you. :yes:

jaclaz


Many thanks jaclaz !
Now it's much better explained! :)
Thank you for the helpful tips using Word about "quotes"
Regards

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