[Alanoll]

by the way, i wasn't pushin conditional statements that time.

but the principle would be the same nonthe less from a batch file to do the same job using an if.

Find a unique value in the regsitry, and then run a batch file that checks that values and isntalls the right chipset software accordingly

actually as for syntax that is just fine. I was gonna try to write teh conditional statements plugin when the docs were competed. But like you just said, a plugin can't do that

by write their own functions, you mean like the executing ones?

[Wraith]

Alanoll, on Feb 19 2004, 10:02 AM, said:

by the way, i wasn't pushin conditional statements that time.

but the principle would be the same nonthe less from a batch file to do the same job using an if.

Find a unique value in the regsitry, and then run a batch file that checks that values and isntalls the right chipset software accordingly

actually as for syntax that is just fine. I was gonna try to write teh conditional statements plugin when the docs were competed. But like you just said, a plugin can't do that

by write their own functions, you mean like the executing ones?

Yep, you'd have to handle the execution of programs yourself, copying of files yourself, etc.
There's no way to call another plugin.

Well, there IS, but it's not easy. You'd have to manually load the plugin, get its exported functions, add callbacks. All icky. But doable.

It probably would be easier for me to add what I stated above.

[Alanoll]

i belive its been requested before,.....
but
any idea on the shutdown thing?

the thing is about shutting down is that if you use Shutdown.exe you would have to allow XPlode to continue without waiting for Shutdown to finish, unlike the other programs
possible attribute signal continue or not.

[Wraith]

Alanoll, on Feb 19 2004, 10:10 AM, said:

i belive its been requested before,.....
but
any idea on the shutdown thing?

the thing is about shutting down is that if you use Shutdown.exe you would have to allow XPlode to continue without waiting for Shutdown to finish, unlike the other programs
possible attribute signal continue or not.

Explain to me again the shutdown request.

[buckeyeXP]

Wraith, on Feb 18 2004, 06:15 PM, said:

Explain to me again the shutdown request.

a way to restart the computer after time is given for the desktop to load for the first time. The problem is that if you ran shutdown.exe from XPlode, XPlode would not unload and the desktop would not have time to load. so if there was a way to release it after the shutdown command was run.

[prathapml]

Why not do it this way?

Last command in the XML:

<display=blah-blah-blah command=cmd.exe arguments=/C "%temp%\reboot.cmd" />

%temp%\reboot.cmd:

shutdown.exe -blah_blah_arguments_whatever

Why make XPlode complicated?

[Alanoll]

well, if you do it that way, why even call cmd.exe?

i just call a batch file and it does the job.

I was just reporting a request, besides the ability to not wait for an install to finish and XPlode to continue might come in handy. Thats all that is really need. An optional argument to wait or not, if possible

[Wraith]

Well, I can quite easily add an attribute to say not to wait while a prog is running. *adds it now*

http://xplode.voidfx.com/documentation/plu...ute/execute.htm

[Alanoll]

that shall do nicely.
and it solves the shutdown issue. nicely done.

I wonder how ugly the conditional statements are gonna be.


EDIT:: Just so you know, most of the time when i mention conditional statements, I'm being sarcastic


EDIT:: That documentation definately has alittle more color to it then the old one

[Shotgun]

Wraith (in another thread, said):

Quote

As for the subitem count, I'm going to be putting that where the current total count is - it's kinda redundant with the total progress bar and all.

The reason I would like a subcount is for example, at the "Installing Hotfixes item" I have about 38 fixes and recommended updates for Windows 2000. Xplode shows the small progress bar beside the "Installing Hotfixes item" but if one of those fixes blows up with an error or freezes up for some strange reason I'll then have something to pinpoint exactly which sub-item caused the trouble (or at least be near to the culprit).

I'm not saying I have such a problem right now, but since the subitems also lend themselves for doing a plethora of other things, you could have a "main" item count and then if an item had sub-items, have a count for that item's sub-items. I do not believe it is redundant at all.

For example:

Item 1 --- installs something
Item 2 --- Title for some dir operations
sub item 1 ---- copy dir1 to dir2
sub item 2 ---- delete filex
sub item 3 ---- delete filey
sub item 4 ---- delete filez
sub item 5 ---- rename fileA to fileB
sub item 6 ---- create dir3
sub item 7 ---- move fileB to dir3

..... other subitems, let's say 20...

Item 3 --- Install other stuff that depends on previous main item
Item 4 --- Run some clean up stuff (could have sub-items)

and so on...

Clearer now?
Sorry, before I could not come up with a clear concept of what I wanted.
BTW... MAN! do you sleep?

[Wraith]

Shotgun, on Feb 19 2004, 04:54 PM, said:

... Clearer now? 
Sorry, before I could not come up with a clear concept of what I wanted. 
BTW... MAN! do you sleep?

It was clear in the beginning. I just totally forgot about it in 1.00

*makes change now*





And I only usually sleep 3-4 hours/night.

[Shotgun]

Wraith, on Feb 19 2004, 01:57 AM, said:

And I only usually sleep 3-4 hours/night.

Me too...
but my wife always complains about how I don't rest enough, so I'm sleeping a little more now. :/

I am perfectly happy with sleeping only 4-5 hours, so she's starting to get used to it.

[Alanoll]

I was just curious if you managed to add the conditional statements? If not, its all good

[tinnef]

Another thing mentioned earlier (I think by me in the good old days of xpinstall) is to select the items to install, like with IcemanND's install.exe

[Alanoll]

i'm not sure how that works, but if it's like a checkbox and then click an install button, then that would require a rewrite of teh XPlode code.

But if a XML creator is ever made, that would do the checkbox thing if implemented?

[Wraith]

Okay, now that I have XPlode done.... an XML creator is back on the list of things to do...

At the moment, I'm thinking of having it run in two modes - a complete editor mode, where you add the items, all the attributes and whatnot, and a selector mode, where you run it at boot, and it would allow the user to select what to use, then spawn a copy of XPlode with a new XML.

This will NOT have the "flashy" UI that XPlode does, it'll be using normal common controls, I'd imagine.

So I guess it'd be up to you lot if you wanted to use it. However, once people start releasing plugins (source WILL be out soon - needs some rearranging), this might become a problem, because if I write this XML creator, it'll screw things up, because it won't support them.

So either people will have to edit them manually, or I have to modify the plugins.

So, here's the choice you people get to make:

Do I postpone releasing the plugin source, and make them work with this XML creator that may never come into existence, or, release it now and throw everyone out until I release a new plugin sdk.

[Alanoll]

i vote to get teh SDK soon, but that's just me

[Wraith]

I'll wait for a few other people to reply before making a decision.

[Alanoll]

hehe. good idea, maybe not everybody is as ancy to TRY and make a plugin

you mentioned earlier on how to implement the conditional statetments, I was just wondering if that was implemented in 1.00, or is that in future releaes?

[Wraith]

Next one. Was too easy to break during testing, so I left it out until it's working.