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Does anyone know how to diagnose boot up problems.

When I boot into XP the welcome screen comes up for one second and then reboots.

XP Pro sp2 was installed on a different computer. I restored it to a new partition on a new computer. It started out giving me a Stop 0x0000007b. I guessed that was because of the new SATA drive it is now on so I created a slipstream XP including the SATA controller drivers. I'm no longer getting the Stop error so I think that problem is solved.

I have tried getting into safe mode. It reboots after one second just like regular mode.
I have tried turning on boot logging. It doesn't create the ntbtlog.txt file in C:\Windows on the XP drive.
I have tried selecting VGA mode from the F8 key.
I have tried adding "/basevideo /bootlog /sos" without the quotes with and without /fastdetect to
1. Startup in vga mode.
2. Create the ntbtlog.txt file.
3. Stop on every driver it loads.
It doesn't stop on each driver and it doesn't create the ntbtlog.txt file

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Docfx itXP" /basevideo /bootlog /sos /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

I'm interested in any other suggestions someone might have.

Thanks,

Docfxit

Edited by docfxit, 04 April 2011 - 10:15 AM.



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You copied an XP to an other computer and it is there that you have the reboot problem, right ? Is it after you use nLite to integrate the SATA drivers ? (Obviously that would be the reason you post here). If yes, it is a new installation, right ? So it's not copied anymore... I'm lost here. :wacko:

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Sorry for the confusion.

I did a repair install using an nLite disk created with the SATA controler drivers on the new computer.

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Maybe I didn't create the nLite CD correctly. It boots into XP and one second later it reboots.

Is there some options I should have chosen?

XP Pro sp2

Thanks,

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It could be almost anything, but basically you need first thing to get a BSOD, so that we know what the issue might be.
If I get it right, you had a 0x0000007b BEFORE, but NOW your XP reboots without giving you the time to read which BSOD it is.

You need to disable autoreboot, see here:
http://reboot.pro/14142/

and post the BSOD STOP ERROR code, first thing.

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It could be almost anything, but basically you need first thing to get a BSOD, so that we know what the issue might be.
If I get it right, you had a 0x0000007b BEFORE, but NOW your XP reboots without giving you the time to read which BSOD it is.

You need to disable autoreboot, see here:
http://reboot.pro/14142/

and post the BSOD STOP ERROR code, first thing.

jaclaz

That's great. Thank you for thinking of that. I didn't know it was possible. I pressed F8 and saw the option to "Disable the automatic restart on system failure"
Now instead of restarting it stops with STOP: 0x0000007B

I thought I fixed that. I obviously didn't.

I copied the XP install CD to a hard drive in the root folder of C:\XP2
I found the name of the driver required for this new PC M90P at:
http://www-307.ibm.c...ocid=SF10-D0118
I thought it was pretty clear for the M90p "The correct choices are in BOLD."
SATA AHCI Controllers:
Intel® 5 Series / 3400 Series SATA AHCI Controller

I found the instruction on how to use nLite at:
www--.msfn.org/board/topic/107504-integration-of-intels-sata-ahci-and-raid-drivers/

1. Preparation:
What you need is the actual version of

nLite (you get it here) and
the suitable (=extracted) Intel textmode drivers you want/need to integrate.
The choice of the correct textmode driver depends mainly on the OS you are going to install, whereas the exact name of the Intel Controller of your mainboard is less important for the driver choice, because the actual "Intel® Rapid Storage Technology" (RST) resp. "Intel® Matrix Storage Manager" (MSM) packages are supporting all common INTEL ICH7-10 and 5 Series SATA AHCI and SATA RAID Controllers of all Intel chipset desktop and laptop mainboards (users with an Intel ICH5 or ICH6 SATA Controller have to use an older or a customized driver package).
What you need for the later integration are the extracted necessary Intel S-ATA AHCI/RAID Controller drivers. Since the complete Intel RST/MSM packages have a big size (due to the included Console software) and are not easy to extract, I recommend to download just one of the small driver packages, which are already prepared for integration purposes.

a ) For Intel ICH7R/M, ICH8R/M, ICH9R/M, ICH10R/D or 5 Series S-ATA AHCI and RAID Controllers:
If you are going to install the 32bit version of Windows XP or Windows Server 2003, you will just need one of the following actual 32bit Intel textmode drivers:
Users, who know the Intel SATA Controller specification of their system, and owners of an SSD should download Intel's latest official 32bit RST driver v10.1.0.1008 dated 11/05/2010 from here:
>32bit Intel RST textmode driver v10.1.0.1008 WHQL<
Within those instructions it gave a link to the exact driver at:
http://www.mediafire...r35hqm3qffyphk9
Unzip and store the driver folder of your choice somewhere (caution: don't use any personal Windows folder like the Desktop for storage purposes!). Depending on the OS you are going to install, you will just need the 32bit or 64bit driver version.
2. Processing with nLite:

Copy the content of the clean source CD (XP, XP x64, W2k3 or W2k3 x64) onto your hdd.
Run nLite and point to the directory where you have copied the OS source.
You can use all nLite options, but you have to use the tasks "Integrate Drivers" and "Create Bootable CD".
When you come up to the task "Drivers", hit the "Insert" button, use the "Single driver" option and point to the content of the driver package you have downloaded and extracted at first step. Click onto one of the shown INF files (it doesn't matter which one).
If you have integrated the appropriate drivers (supporting ICH7-10 Controllers) you will get the following or rather similar "Storage Device Textmode Driver" popup window with a big variety of different Intel Controllers:

At this point you have to decide, which Intel Controller(s) you want to get installed by clicking onto the suitable Controller(s).
Important:
a ) Make sure, that the "Textmode driver" Mode is enabled.
b ) You can and maybe have to highlight more than 1 Controller.
Have a look into your mainboard manual to find the exact name of your S-ATA Controller and search for it within the list.
Click onto the Intel SATA Controller(s), which is/are suitable for your mainboard BIOS settings regarding the Intel S-ATA ports (SATA RAID or SATA AHCI), your mainboard chipset (ICH7, ICH8, ICH9 or ICH10) and your system ("Desktop"=PC, "Mobile"=Laptop, Server or Workstation).
Tip:
If you are not sure, which of the listed Controllers are the suitable one(s) for your chipset, you can enable all of them (Windows Setup will find and install the correct driver). This tip is only valid for users, who had prepared an Intel textmode driver, which belongs to the "Intel® Matrix Storage Manager" series!
Use the other options of nLite, if you want. It is a good idea to additionally integrate the Intel INF Update Utilty named Intel® Chipset Device Software as normal device (=PnP) driver. You can download the actual INF driver package from >here<.
Tip:
Since Intel's EXE package usually is voluminous and not easy to be extracted, I have prepared and uploaded a small driverpack for you, which contains just the actual official driver files you will need for the integration of the Intel chipset device "drivers" (Notice: they are not real drivers, but just information files).
You can download a small package containing just the latest Intel INF "drivers" v9.1.1.1027 prepared for the integration from >here<. Unzip it and integrate the "drivers" by pointing onto any of the various INF files you will find within the folder. It doesn't matter which one you choose - nLite will copy them all anyway.

Let nLite create the ISO file.
As last step the ISO file should be burned as bootable CD. You can either let nLite do this job or take a burning tool like Nero.

It listed the exact controller that the Lenovo page said it was.

I just ran a program called siw.exe in Win7 that is on the same hard drive. If I am reading it correctly for Intel AHCI Controller it says the driver is called:
Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver - x86
Under Devices for IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers it has:
Intel® 5 Series/3400 Series SATA AHCI Controller

I just noticed that the driver version it talks about in the article is:
v10.1.0.1008

The driver version installed on the PC is:
v9.5.4.1001

I don't know if the version makes a difference.

What could be wrong with what I did?

Thanks,

Docfxit

Edited by docfxit, 04 April 2011 - 10:00 PM.


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Several things may be possible, examples:
  • nlite integration not being suitable to "repair" install
  • differences in "more relevant/earlier drivers" (like chipset or PCI bus drivers) that create the 0x0000007b at an "earlier" stage tha the actual "mass storage drivers"

You might want to try adding the "whole" driverspacks:
http://driverpacks.net/
and/or attempt an offline sysprep:
http://www.911cd.net...hp?showforum=43

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Several things may be possible, examples:

  • nlite integration not being suitable to "repair" install
  • differences in "more relevant/earlier drivers" (like chipset or PCI bus drivers) that create the 0x0000007b at an "earlier" stage tha the actual "mass storage drivers"

You might want to try adding the "whole" driverspacks:
http://driverpacks.net/
and/or attempt an offline sysprep:
http://www.911cd.net...hp?showforum=43

jaclaz


Thanks for the reply.

I tried adding a whole driverspacks. The DP_MassStorage_wnt5_x86-32_1101. When I went to create the ISO it failed saying it didn't create. It also didn't say why.

Why didn't it create the ISO?

I'm guessing it might have been too large for a CD. Is there a way to make a DVD?

Thanks,

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Did you "start fresh"?
But yes, you need to use a DVD:
http://www.raymond.c...for-windows-xp/
The .iso should be created allright.
Just insert a DVD instead of a CD when burning the .iso.

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When I went to create the ISO it failed saying it didn't create. It also didn't say why.

Why didn't it create the ISO?

I'm guessing it might have been too large for a CD. Is there a way to make a DVD?

nLite creates the ISO regardless of the size of the folder. Did you click the "Make Iso" button ? Some people just click "Next" by inadvertance. You can retry just that step in nLite, it changes absolutely nothing to the directory.




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