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#41 User is offline   Prozactive 

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:30 AM

View PostFoxbat, on 16 May 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:

View PostProzactive, on 16 May 2011 - 09:30 AM, said:

View PostFoxbat, on 15 May 2011 - 03:13 AM, said:

Avast 4.8.1335 will be supported until May 2012.

Thanks. I was wondering when Avast! was going to discontinue support for Win9x as it was originally supposed to end last year. Just curious, where did you find that information?

Yes, Win 9x support ended at the end of 2009. I was referring to the support of virus definitions. I'll fix my post to reflect that.

@Foxbat:
I understood what you meant. I was also referring to virus definitions support, which was supposed to be discontinued at the end of 2010 but has surprisingly still continued.


View Postdencorso, on 16 May 2011 - 09:58 AM, said:

Of course there is a way... I can consolidate the previous threads into one. But that would create a huge thread.
So I don't know for sure whether it's such a good idea. Do please post a list of previous threads you think would fit in.
Then we can decide what's the best course to adopt.

@dencorso:
Thanks. Now that I think about it, seems like you did something similar for the "Large HDDs >137 GB" topic where you created a "super" post with links to all the relevant threads. I'll look for those threads and get back to you.

@CharlotteTheHarlot:
That's interesting that McAfee 6 still works with the latest definitions. My first AV was McAfee 4.0.3 and I used it for an extremely long time, updating it with the sdat files you referenced, until it became way too slow. As I recall, it caused overall system response to become so sluggish as to be almost unusable. Along the way, they also provided a free download of version 8 to settle some class action lawsuit. I tried it but didn't like it for some reason.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 01:14 PM

View PostProzactive, on 17 May 2011 - 08:30 AM, said:

I understood what you meant. I was also referring to virus definitions support, which was supposed to be discontinued at the end of 2010 but has surprisingly still continued.

The source of the definitions support date was directly from Avast's website over a year ago. Now, a Google search brings up multiple forums all referring to one user asking an Avast rep whose response was that definitions will be supported until the end of 2010. This causes some confusion. It's possible Avast may have changed the date somewhere down the line, but they are still releasing updated 4.8 definitions from their website, which is concurrent with their original end date.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 03:45 AM

Holy heck i'm floored i didn't think any of the outdated A/Vs could get updates i had thought of getting an older yet some what recent A/v but, never really put any more thought to it. i use WOT in palemoon witch i have version specialized for Pentium 3's and if you don't know palemoon is windows optimized version of FF. any i didn't think there was anything left for 98se might be interesting to scan it some time but, for the most part i don't have or run any thing as far as A/v i'm sure it helps with performance some.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 01:55 PM

There's a new version of Clam Sentinel: v1.16 May 28, 2011.
You must have ClamWin AV (installed or portable) to use.

http://clamsentinel.sourceforge.net

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 04:36 PM

ClamWin AV .97.1 has been released. It's not noted in the change log but this update has added QRecover support for Win98 and WinME. QRecover (a ClamWin utility aka Quarantine Browser) allows users to easily restore files from quarantine, if necessary.

http://www.filehippo...ownload_clamwin

This new version works great with Clam Sentinel 1.16, which acts as it's integrated real time front end.

Edit: adding ClamWin Portable .97.1 (states for Win2k and higher, but works on Win98 and probably WinME without KernelEx). Can be used in conjunction with Clam Sentinel from a flash drive. See the two guides at the bottom of http://clamsentinel.sourceforge.net for setup procedures. Also, I could never get ClamWin (installed or portable) to scan a NTFS volume even with Paragon's NTFS for Win98 installed. My remedy was to re-format the NTFS drive to FAT32. This is a ClamWin problem, not Clam Sentinel.

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Posted 18 June 2011 - 04:52 PM

Though it's days are surely numbered, Avast AV 4.8.1368 still works on 98/ME and receives updates several times per day.

http://www.filehippo...antivirus/6635/

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Posted 20 June 2011 - 04:39 PM

Editing a post doesn't bump a thread on this forum, so I'm manually bumping that others will know there's new content. :thumbup

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Posted 04 July 2011 - 06:35 PM

There doesn't seem to be that many antivirus for Windows 95 available. What a shame. :(

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Posted 05 July 2011 - 11:37 PM

That's expected the older an OS gets. But, two antivirus programs still support Windows 95:

Avast 4.8
Eset NOD32 2.7

See post #32 for support dates.

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Posted 12 July 2011 - 07:50 PM

View PostCharlotteTheHarlot, on 17 May 2011 - 03:11 AM, said:

... 3,182,712 . 07-31-09 . 6:40a Mcscan32.dll ... (engine) IDENTICAL to existing

What version is your Mscan32.dll?

Does anyone have access to 5100eng9x.exe?

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 01:10 AM

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 12 July 2011 - 07:50 PM, said:

What version is your Mscan32.dll?


(please note the spelling of the filename: McScan32.dll)

3,182,712 . 07-31-09 . 6:40a Mcscan32.dll

File Properties | Version (under WinXP) ... v5.400.0.1158

File Properties | Version (under Win9x) ... v5.4.00

CRC in WinZip ... c2482d68

MORE INFORMATION ... I was able to search through a collection of McAfee DATs and determined that this file (McScan32.dll) has been identical since around the 5741 release circa 2009 September. In other words this file has been unchanged for almost two years.

SUPPOSITION ... at some point this DLL will again be changed and will likely not work with Win9x any longer even though the 10 year old executables will function as always. The question will likely become, will the DAT files of some future time work with an older McScan32.dll on Win9x? Your guess is as good as mine.

None of this would be necessary if all the antivirus vendors and virus research labs simply agreed on a standard DAT database while keeping their engines and applications proprietary. But that would be just too logical.

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 12 July 2011 - 07:50 PM, said:

Does anyone have access to 5100eng9x.exe?


I couldn't find the 5100 DATs on any hard drives I have stored. But I did see 5090 and 5110. McScan32.dll is identical in both of those releases ...

2,867,438 . 06-09-06 . 5:10a Mcscan32.dll

File Properties | Version (under WinXP) ... v5.100.0.194

File Properties | Version (under Win9x) ... v5.1.00 (probably)

CRC in WinZip ... ca1d76ed

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:08 PM

View Postwsxedcrfv, on 15 May 2011 - 07:18 AM, said:

Norton Anti-Virus 2002 can still be updated by downloading the (free) Symantec Intelligent Updater package.

But is it kosher to download and use this package?

--JorgeA

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 08:30 PM

I can confirm that SUPERAntiSpyware version 4.24.0.1004 works on my Win98 (first edition) PC.

Also, FWIW, ZoneAlarm 6.1.744.001 serves as the firewall on my Win98SE laptop.

HTH

--JorgeA

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:18 AM

AVG 7.5

Since two weeks the update (offline) of the AVG Virus Definitions is faulty. The definitions file incavi.avm remains in the install.1 folder (C:\WINDOWS\All Users\Application Data\Grisoft\Avg7Data\avg7upd\install.1). I must copy it in the AVG program folder. Restart required



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Posted 04 August 2011 - 08:45 AM

Don't forget that you could also use Linux to scan Windows. I believe you could make a tiny Linux compatible partition around ~200MB, or maybe even smaller. Then do a minimal install of Debian, Fedora, Arch, etc..

I've done this before, and I didn't even install a desktop environment for the distro.

Add the proper repos for your distro, and from the Linux command line, install the program with a package manager.

Debian, Ubuntu;
apt-get  install clamav

OR
aptitude install clamav


Arch;

pacman -S clamav


Gentoo;

emerge clamav


To update the definitions is something like...

freshclam


To scan...

clamscan /media/Windows/
clamscan /mnt/Windows/
clamscan /media/Windows/io.sys
clamscan <path to folder/file>


NOTES;
This method will require you to have a boot manager installed, like one of the GRUB derivatives for instance. This also won't provide "active" protection, but only clean-up after the fact.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 06:00 PM

http://www.window95..../antivirus.html

I found this website that seems to have some Win9x stuff in there :D

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 02:02 AM

Just a quick update regarding the use of McAfee v6 on Win9x. I extracted the latest DATs v6511 (see details explained above in post #40) ...

..... 640,057 . 10-26-11 . 1:40a Avvclean.dat
..... 445,913 . 10-26-11 . 1:40a Avvnames.dat
. 125,551,486 . 10-26-11 . 1:40a Avvscan.dat


As described previously, just strip the AVV prefix from the default filenames and replace CLEAN.DAT, NAMES.DAT and SCAN.DAT.

The 32-bit engine file, Mcscan32.dll is once again identical to past versions so nothing need be done.

As before, it took a LONGGGGG time for McAfee to initialize and load the DATs (over 5 minutes!). But all went well and McAfee scanned files and folders successfully!

Pretty impressive really because the main executable McAfee file is VSMAIN.EXE v6.01.2000.1 is dated: 2001-11-16. Almost exactly 10 years old.

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:57 AM

Registered avast 4.8 antivirus on windows 98se until 1 December 2012

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Posted 05 December 2011 - 03:20 PM

View PostFoxbat, on 15 May 2011 - 03:13 AM, said:

With most support for Win 9x antivirus and antimalware programs coming to an end, I try to keep an eye on some that are still supported.


BitDefender v10 does have VM and on-access protection. BUT it is flaky and will lock files. Also a ram hog unless KernelEX is installed. You have to disable all of it and reboot just to defrag, but it is good for risky surfing. Fortego's ASE still works on 9x + KEX even though most monitors read from the NT event log.


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Posted 06 December 2011 - 02:31 AM

Just install Avast 4.8 I have registered it until December 1 2012

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