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There are a couple of things about the player that really annoy me. The main two being the volume control that goes up to 200% (and distorts) and the fact that the EQ settings are never retained. Anyone found a good free alternative for playing music and DVDs?

Edited by xmf, 14 June 2011 - 09:31 AM.



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I'm using mediaplayer HC but it doesn't come with the codecs. If you need them and don't want to install anything else then you might like MPUI.

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I'm also using MPC-HC
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So, if I want to use Media Player Classic then I have to find codecs so I can play DVDs, CDs, MP3s. FLAC, WAV, etc.

MPlayer and MPUI is something different that (packaged) is all ready to go.

Well, I'd like to see why you both have chosen to use MP Classic, so I guess I'll start looking into the codecs I'll need (unless someone can point me in the right direction).

Edit: So far MP HC is playing most everything in my arsenal: CD, DVD, MP3, MP4, & FLAC - but no EQ! Hopefully there's a workaround.

Thanks

Edited by xmf, 14 June 2011 - 12:22 PM.


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Well, K-Lite Codec Pack is bundled with MPC (and/or MPC-HC). It also includes FFDShow as a set of DirectShow filters and it does have an audio EQ. FFDShow is also available as a separate download.

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Well, K-Lite Codec Pack is bundled with MPC (and/or MPC-HC). It also includes FFDShow as a set of DirectShow filters and it does have an audio EQ. FFDShow is also available as a separate download.


So it does have a built-in EQ? How does one use it?

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I'm using mediaplayer hC because it's multithreaded and very light and some built-in codecs but not all unlike vlc or mplayer. But for what i'm playing back, it is the best and it has unique features like using a different audio output than the default one or display in fullscreen always on the same monitor etc ...

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And if you don't like K-Lite, you could try Shark007's pack - http://shark007.net/index.html. and there are other packs available as well.

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So I've downloaded and installed the program. How do I activate ffdshow and get to this screen?

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Open your Start menu, select All Programs, find FFDShow and choose ffdshow audio decoder, as shown in the pic. Don't forget to tick Equalizer to enable it first. The ffdshow video decoder screen gives a few options as well.
Now, the good thing about this program is that if you configure your files/filters to go through FFDShow (Codecs sub-section for audio/video decoder screen), you should experience a smaller CPU usage and a smoother playback. I've been using it since 2004 (combined with K-Lite and MPC for the past 3-4 years) and the only files it doesn't play for me are the corrupted ones.

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Open your Start menu, select All Programs, find FFDShow and choose ffdshow audio decoder, as shown in the pic. Don't forget to tick Equalizer to enable it first. The ffdshow video decoder screen gives a few options as well.
Now, the good thing about this program is that if you configure your files/filters to go through FFDShow (Codecs sub-section for audio/video decoder screen), you should experience a smaller CPU usage and a smoother playback. I've been using it since 2004 (combined with K-Lite and MPC for the past 3-4 years) and the only files it doesn't play for me are the corrupted ones.

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A slight miscommunication. When I wrote "So I've downloaded and installed the program." I was referring to MPC-HC, not FFDShow. I thought FFDShow came bundled with MPC-HC based on post #4, but I guess not?
Anyway, I've now downloaded and successfully installed FFDShow, but it's not appearing in my Start Menu->Programs. Is there any other way to launch it? Must it be launched separately every time in order to work in conjunction with MPC?

Edited by xmf, 14 June 2011 - 08:36 PM.


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Try SMPlayer. For me Its Great.

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Winamp plays most movies fine as well.

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As far as I know, MPC-HC is in terrible code state. It's an old code from MPC with some features added on top of it. Noone knows how it really works and most of the development consists of bugfixes and workarounds.

Don't get me wrong, I've been using it for a few years and like it, but I don't see much light at the and of the tunnel for it. If I was looking for a player, I wouldn't look at it as an alternative.

The same applies to FFDShow by the way...



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As far as I know, MPC-HC is in terrible code state. It's an old code from MPC with some features added on top of it.

Yet, nothing comes even close to it for movies. VLC is handy for a few other things (streaming/transcoding/capturing stuff, playing obscure formats & broken files, etc) but as a general purpose media player it's pretty awful IMO (sucks at playing H.264 files big time, hw acceleration isn't quite there yet, no EVR renderer support, really poor interface which usually happens with multi-platform programs, poor keyboard shortcuts, even mouse control sucks, tons of bugs like rebuilding the font cache for what seems like eternity all too often, etc). Mostly everything just works in MPC-HC, and ditto for ffdshow (knowing how to configure them sure helps a lot though). For audio files VLC's still horrible but I wouldn't use MPC HC for that either.
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I never got MPC-HC to work, but I'm trying again. The program is installed but I can't figure out where to enable the EQ.

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FFDshow downloaded but I can't find the exe

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I never got MPC-HC to work, but I'm trying again. The program is installed but I can't figure out where to enable the EQ.

It's not a music player, so there isn't one.

FFDshow downloaded but I can't find the exe

That a codec (decoder), not a player.
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I'm confused. I requested recommendations for a music/movie player and MPC was highly recommended. Also, post 9 shows an EQ for the player.

So MPC won't play FLAC, MP3, etc? What about the eq mentioned as being part of the FFDshow package?

After downloading FFDshow, I was referring to the "Install" document that states:

"Binary distribution:

Run ffdshow.exe and follow instructions."

I guess I don't have the binary distr then. The second set of install instructions (shown below) are totally confusing to me. I'll try to search elsewhere for easier instructions I guess.

"From sources:

1. Install cygwin with gcc, binutils, make and mingw runtime (maybe others)
Cygwin can be downloaded from http://www.cygwin.com
2. Install nasm
3. Go to ffmpeg directory
4. Edit config.mak and config.h
5. Go to libavcodec directory
6. Type make
7. Copy libavcodec.dll to windows system directory (or somewhere to PATH)
8. Go to mplayer directory
9. Edit config.mak and maybe config.h
10. Type make
11. Copy libpostproc.dll to windows system directory (or somewhere to PATH)
12. Go to dshow directory
13. Open dshow.sln (for VS.NET) or dshow.dsw (for VS 6) and build it
(xvid.ax should be registered after build)
14. Try to play some XVID AVI with Windows Media Player 6.4
(may work also with other players)"

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I'm confused. I requested recommendations for a music/movie player and MPC was highly recommended.

I personally never recommended MPC or MPC HC as a music player. Don't blame me ;) I only use it for movies myself. I stick to plain old Windows Media Player for music, and I'm quite happy with it. It has an equalizer but I've never used it, nor am I planning on that...

Also, post 9 shows an EQ for the player.

No, that's the ffdshow audio decoder, which has that particular feature (haven't used it either) which you'd access from a (fairly annoying) tray icon, or from your player if it exposes its functionality. It's still not a player (it's used by a player rather)

So MPC won't play FLAC, MP3, etc?

I've never tried. But I wouldn't want to use it for that either.
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This page explain how to use external filter in mpc-hc and with ffdshow you'll get a realtime equalizer.

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So MPC won't play FLAC, MP3, etc?

I've never tried. But I wouldn't want to use it for that either.


I'm curious why. [for those who care, the bare MPC-HC install will play flac and mp3]

This page explain how to use external filter in mpc-hc and with ffdshow you'll get a realtime equalizer.


Thanks, looks like a great resource but it's also quite extensive and I couldn't find instructions on how to install ffdshow initially.

Edited by xmf, 05 September 2011 - 10:46 PM.


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Here is one of the ffdshow builds repository.

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I'm curious why

Because the interface is clearly meant for playing videos and I think it would really suck quite badly for playing music. I'd much rather keep using WMP for music, where things are neatly organized by albums/groups/whatever and rated, where I can sync my mp3 player, where the same songs can be streamed to other computers and devices or even used in media center and so on.
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