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Getting the ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 / Mobility Radeon X700 to work w Old Catalyst 6.2 Drivers do not work. Mobility versions available? Rate Topic: -----

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 02:15 AM

Hi, Win98-Addicts!

Several weeks ago I purchased a notebook (HP NW8240) for setting up a Win98-System. While for most parts (Intel 915 chipset, etc.) Windows 98 drivers are avaible, the built-in ATI Mobility FireGL V5000 128MB RAM video card only works with Standard-(S)VGA drivers. I searched the web for working Windows 98 drivers but did not succeed. Does anybody here have an idea? The FireGL V5000 is based on the Radeon X700 for which Win98 drivers (Catalyst 6.2) do exist (http://www.msfn.org/...ith-windows-9x/). But when installing them, all I can see are some kinds of coloured lines and the screen becoming brighter and brighter until... I decide to shut down the notebook as the screen looks too dangerous. Perhaps there are problems using (desktop) X700 drivers for the mobility version e. g. clock speeds too high etc.?

Any hints and ideas are highly appriciated!

Thanks in advance and best regards.
Hella

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Posted 29 June 2011 - 09:16 AM

There is one on Cnet, but it goes to an outdated link on ATI's old website. So there should definately be one out there, but its not on HP's website.

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 02:35 AM

*Should* is the magic word. ;-)
I followed nearly all webpages (CNET, ZDNET, ...) but they all refer to that outdated link on ATI's old website.
On http://www.downloadw...ubsys_00661025/ one can download ATI Mobility Radeon X700 drivers from different ACER-FTP-locations, but none of them seems to be WIN98 compatible...

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Posted 30 June 2011 - 08:15 AM

I'm seeing that the version that Cnet has for Windows 98 is a v6.14.10.6521. I'm reading that some users (had) used sp30403, which isn't specifically for notebooks but designed for their workstations. I'll presume that it is possible for you to use this package on the notebook. Firstly, both sp30403 and the prior sp28806 are for the following:

[Operating Systems]
WIN2000=OEM
WINXP32P=OEM

[Devices]
VEN_1002&DEV_5148&SUBSYS_01521002=ATI FireGL 8800;
VEN_1002&DEV_4154&SUBSYS_00021002=ATI FireGL T2;
VEN_1002&DEV_4174&SUBSYS_00031002=ATI FireGL T2 Secondary;
VEN_1002&DEV_5B64&SUBSYS_01021002=ATI FireGL V3100;
VEN_1002&DEV_5B74&SUBSYS_01031002=ATI FireGL V3100 Secondary;
VEN_1002&DEV_5551&SUBSYS_15511002=ATI FireGL V5100;
VEN_1002&DEV_5571&SUBSYS_15501002=ATI FireGL V5100 Secondary;
VEN_1002&DEV_4E47&SUBSYS_01521002=ATI FireGL X1-256;
VEN_1002&DEV_4E67&SUBSYS_01531002=ATI FireGL X1-256 Secondary;
VEN_1002&DEV_4147&SUBSYS_010A1002=ATI FireGL Z1-128p;
VEN_1002&DEV_4167&SUBSYS_010B1002=ATI FireGL Z1-128p;
VEN_1002&DEV_5B60&SUBSYS_0F021002=RADEON X300 Series;
VEN_1002&DEV_5B60&SUBSYS_04021002=RADEON X300 Series;
VEN_1002&DEV_5B70&SUBSYS_0F031002=RADEON X300 Series Secondary;
VEN_1002&DEV_5B70&SUBSYS_04031002=RADEON X300 Series Secondary;


If your HwID is listed here great. If you don't know it, PCISCAN (among other things) can get you this info. Also, going by the sp28806.cva, we can find this line also to help us find the actual files we need:

[Install Execution]
SilentInstall="FireGL-8.043.1.1-WHQL-040907a1-017905C-HP\setup.exe -k


HP's FTP does have the SP28806.exe on it, and you can try it out.
ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp28501-29000/sp28806.exe


Going further back in the versions, none of them (even the first) mention Win98. Maybe searching using the partial name in the SilentIntell section might be able to find something?

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 02:28 AM

Interesting... installation of sp30403 or sp28806 is partially succesful - they both install Ati Hydravision, but no drivers.

Using pciscan I get:
Vendor "1002" and Device "5653".

Following http://www.pcidataba...e_search=Search I get:
"0x5653 ATI MOBILITY/ATI RADEON X700 0x1002 ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc."

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Posted 01 July 2011 - 08:18 AM

I just extracted those and they are definately XP/2000 drivers. No 9x in there. You can probably uninstall them if you can. Tracking down this driver is tough since all the links to ATI's website do not work anymore, and it looks like ATI does not have any Win98 drivers on it? I found another driver package that definately is for Win98, but neither of the INFs I found have your HwID listed in them. The file is located here:
http://globalfilesea...20a-018705e.exe

If I can get any other ideas about what the old ATI driver was called, it would be easier to find... hopefully. Anyways, the path that led me to this particular driver package (to get the idea of how I found it) is.

- Asus had a notebook with FireGL (same HwID) and had released an ATI driver v8.06 (haven't tried to find this yet!)
- This driver package is based on the ATI Catalyst 4.10 for Win98/ME.
- The original link from ATI's old website was:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/wme-8-03-98-2-041020a-018705e.exe

- Another search term possible: TS64MVDR7

Obviously, I took the route of finding the EXE file first.

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