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The problem appears to be down to the regutils.dll in the cab file that needs a new function from Kernel32.dll. I have rebuild that cab with the regutils.dll from update 31 and edited the msi with orca because the resulting cab file had an invalid signature. Doing that it only partially installs and must be completed by hand after which it seems to be working OK, tested briefly on a couple of apps I have on disk and on a couple of online applets with K-Meleon.

Grab it here: http://www.4shared.c...6u32_fixed.html

Run the msi installer and once it's done, copy the files in the "Copy 2 Windows" folder to your Windows folder and the one in the "Copy 2 System" folder to your System folder overwriting the files already in place which still are the old ones. Finally merge the registry file after making sure the paths it contains are also your paths, otherwise adjust them before merging. Once all this is done done it should work OK.

Hi loblo.
:hello:
I've just tried installing your modified version of Java 6 update 32, and it's failing all the time.
It just rolls back and says the install could not be completed and please try later.
It's not getting as far as writing any files to the disk.
There are no messages from the installer to say why it's failed, but in the Windows Temp folder, the java_install_reg.log says -

-- QueryCurMSIValue: Open failed.
-- Exec: QueryCurMSIValue(INSTALLDIR) failed.

The jusched.log says -

Sat Jun 09 13:59:13 2012
:: MSICheckPendingFileRenameOperations: RegOpenKeyEx() failed with ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND: 2, Error Code: 0

And the msievent.log just says -

09/06/12 13:59:20 (Info ) Product: Java™ 6 Update 32 -- Installation operation failed.

Any idea what's going wrong?
I've tried installing to the default folder and to a custom folder with the same result.
I also uninstalled the previous version and cleaned out all its files and registry entries.
I have the most recent version of KernelEx installed, and Java 6 update 31 installs and works fine.
Thanks, Dave.
:)

Edited by Dave-H, 09 June 2012 - 07:18 AM.

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Sorry Dave I have no clue at all however you've got all that's needed to install it by hand I would think. I guess you would just need to extract the cab file and copy its content into the java folder and then use the included folders and reg file to complete the install.

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Sorry Dave I have no clue at all however you've got all that's needed to install it by hand I would think. I guess you would just need to extract the cab file and copy its content into the java folder and then use the included folders and reg file to complete the install.

Thanks loblo.
Just wanted to report that your modified version will not install on Windows XP either.
It does exactly the same thing with the same error logs, so it's not a Windows 98 or KernelEx problem.
I suspect something is amiss with your modified installer file.
I'll have a look at it with Orca and see if I can spot anything wrong.
Presumably it did install on your system OK?
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Yes it did install OK apart from the files to go in windows and system and the registry entries (as mentioned in my initial post which includes the link to the modified installer). I have just been rechecking some executables and jars in the program files/Java/JRE6 subfolders and they were all update 32 and all that's in there has been copied by the installer.

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Yes it did install OK apart from the files to go in windows and system and the registry entries (as mentioned in my initial post which includes the link to the modified installer). I have just been rechecking some executables and jars in the program files/Java/JRE6 subfolders and they were all update 32 and all that's in there has been copied by the installer.

Thanks again loblo.
I tried installing with the original msi file and your modified cab file, and as expected I got an error message about the cab file not being digitally signed.
I've tried to compare your modified msi file with the original msi file, using Orca, but I'm having trouble spotting any differences!
Could you tell me exactly what you changed in the msi file?
Thanks, Dave.
:)

Edited by Dave-H, 11 June 2012 - 05:36 AM.

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I've tried to compare your modified msi file with the original msi, file using Orca, but I'm having trouble spotting any differences!
Could you tell me exactly what you changed in the msi file?

Sorry Dave, I can't remember what I deleted to bypass digital signature check thing. :}

You're on your own, good luck. :)

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I've tried to compare your modified msi file with the original msi, file using Orca, but I'm having trouble spotting any differences!
Could you tell me exactly what you changed in the msi file?

Sorry Dave, I can't remember what I deleted to bypass digital signature check thing. :}
You're on your own, good luck. :)

No problem.
If I do manage to find out what's wrong, I'll let you know!
:)

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Java 6: The Bug doesn't seem to be fixed with update 33. Bug ID 7166889

The msi installer doesn't work and the Dependency Walker still shows this error.

DESCRIPTION OF THE PROBLEM :


The Installer failed on Windows 2000 on unzipcore fase.

Because Data1.cab\regutils.dll includes GetSystemWow64DirectoryA in kernel32.dll

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I decided eventually to just stick with update 31!
I'll wait and hope that KernelEx is eventually updated to support later versions of Java 6, or indeed Java 7.
:)

Edited by Dave-H, 13 June 2012 - 11:55 AM.

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I've just installed new Opera 12 build 1467 and it works, but there are the same problems as before. (Plugins not detectet / can't add buttons to the toolbars)

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I installed opera 12 portable renamed the plugin wrapper and did something with the plug in settings
and flash worked I have not written it down sorry. But soon as I have the time I will come back to write it here. I think that other plugins
worked also. I have not checked yet. Because I did not have the time.

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I installed opera 12 portable renamed the plugin wrapper and did something with the plug in settings
                                                        and flash worked I have not written it down sorry. But soon as I have the time I will come back to write it here. I think that other plugins
                                                        worked also. I have not checked yet. Because I did not have the time.





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Updated to Opera 12.00 today, and can confirm the problems.
The Opera plugin wrapper program crashes when run, with the error in user.exe.
If the error is dismissed and the plugin wrapper executable is closed down, Opera then works reasonably well, but with no plugin support of course.
YouTube videos still play, using HTML5.
Things like QuickTime plugins are completely non-functional.
I also can't modify the toolbars under Windows 98, but I can do that in XP if necessary as I have a dual boot system.
We need the KernelEx devs to add the necessary functions to user.exe if possible!
My user.exe is version 4.10.0.2233.
:)

Edited by Dave-H, 15 June 2012 - 05:27 PM.

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Hello there. Well I tried some things with Opera 12 portable. I am working with kernelex 4.5.2 and windows 98se. I disabled plugins and delet deleted the plugin wrapper. And flash worked. Of course I watched the plugin path with opera:config. The rest of the plugins did not work.

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Is the Kernelex wiki still being maintained? I think with fewer users and kernelex with no developers, would it be ok to suspend new members and new entries?

I was wondering what types of things the wiki admin could use to stop spam being posted on the wiki

Google listed?
Can the wiki be unlisted in the search engine? maybe the spam is about increasing their search rank.

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kernelex questions
Since spammers are bypassing the catcha system. Can we add kernelex based questions to hold back spammers? ie: what is kernelex? what forum is kernelex use? Who created kernelex? What OS does kernelex support

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Document and eBook reader STDU Viewer 1.6.171 which supports a great variety of file formats and I recommend the portable version as the dlls need to be registered with regsvr32 for it to fully work. Very cool app I don't think has ever been mentioned. Not a first choice for pdf however as big pdf files takes longer to load and antialising isn't as good as in other readers but I think it covers everything else apart from Microsoft lit format.

http://www.stdutilit...stduviewer.html

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Latest release of PDF Xchange Viewer 2.5.203 works fine with Win 98SE with Kernelex - use 2000 sp4 compatability mode when running setup.

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I tried with kernelex 4.5.2 installed Firefox 9.0.1 portable and Firefox 10.0.2 portable and everything worked. Everything that comes after
these versions firefox 11 and up crashes on windows 98 se, these versions crash the same way as some Palemoon versions.

Which Firefox 10 is working? According to http://kernelex.sour...Mozilla_Firefox : Firefox 10.0.4: Installs and runs unmodified.

However, I failed installing 10.0.4esr on 98SE, it said: Sorry, Firefox can't be installed. This version of Firefox requires Microsoft Windows 2000 or newer.

The wiki seems incorrect. Did you encounter this error too?

The only Firefox 10 mozilla download link is from ESR (10.0.4esr). 10.0.2 download link redirected me to 12.


According to your link installing the ESR (Extended Support Release) version avoids frequent automatic updates that can fail under KernelEx.

When you click on the ESR channel link http://www.mozilla.o...ations/all.html it now takes you to version 10.05.

Which version should I use? 10.02, 10.04esr, or 10.05esr?

I have been wanting to do a fresh install for months now. I can't take the browser crashes (Firefox 2.0.0.20) much longer.
I want printing, bookmarks, flash, etc to be functioning. The info on all this stuff is spread out enough making this a fairly daunting task.

Edited by leo, 04 July 2012 - 06:37 PM.


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Hello. Well I just tried the portable versions of Firefox 9.01 and 10.02 with kernelex 4.5.2. on windows 98 se. I have not watched the kernelex wiki. I think every version 10.02
amd service releases of Firefox will work as 10.02. Firefox 11 and up do not work they give the same problems as some versions of Palemoon. I am just waiting for newer releases to try out.

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I off course meant service releases of the 10 versions of Firefox.

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I tried with kernelex 4.5.2 installed Firefox 9.0.1 portable and Firefox 10.0.2 portable and everything worked. Everything that comes after
                                                                these versions firefox 11 and up crashes on windows 98 se, these versions crash the same way as some Palemoon versions.

Which Firefox 10 is working?  According to http://kernelex.sour...Mozilla_Firefox : Firefox 10.0.4: Installs and runs unmodified.

However, I failed installing 10.0.4esr on 98SE, it said: Sorry, Firefox can't be installed. This version of Firefox requires Microsoft Windows 2000 or newer.

The wiki seems incorrect.  Did you encounter this error too?

The only Firefox 10 mozilla download link is from ESR (10.0.4esr).  10.0.2 download link redirected me to 12.


According to your link installing the ESR (Extended Support Release) version avoids frequent automatic updates that can fail under KernelEx.

When you click on the ESR channel link http://www.mozilla.o...ations/all.html it now takes you to version 10.05.

Which version should I use?  10.02, 10.04esr, or 10.05esr?

I have been wanting to do a fresh install for months now. I can't take the browser crashes (Firefox 2.0.0.20) much longer.  
I want printing, bookmarks, flash, etc to be functioning.  The info on all this stuff is spread out enough making this a fairly daunting task.


Hello leo,


unfortunately almost always there is any problem. Did you tried Firefox 3.5.19?  Plugins: Flash Player 11.1.102.63 or 10.3.183.20 / Java 1.5 Update 22 

Add-ons: IE TAB version 1.5.20090525 > allows printing via IE engine. 




For FF 10.02 - 10.05 you should install these add-ons: "HyperBK" (bookmarks, history) / "IE View" for printing via IE. Plugin: Flash Player 11.1.102.63 (or use the HTML5 Player inside). You can't run Java applets.

Notation: Firefox versions 10.02 - 10.05 aren't as stable as the versions before up to 9.01 for me. I have to do some more tests. I don't know which version of 10.02 - 10.05 is the best on 98/ME.

Edited by schwups, 06 July 2012 - 02:30 AM.


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Hello my friend schwups I really agree with you.

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loblo, I have already mentioned STDU Viewer :) And I install normal version (it registers dlls) and then use portable one to avoid registering dlls manually. I think this way is easier.

Recently I tried Kingsoft Office Suite Free 2012 - it can be run successfully on Windows 98 with KernelEx, no special settings are required. It even supports MS Office 2007/2010 formats, though I have tried only usual doc and xls - I didn't have any new office files to try. Seems to work greatly.

Edited by M()zart, 09 July 2012 - 06:11 AM.


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Ah OK, sorry, I didn't notice that. I prefer portable btw because the dlls are in the same folder as the executable whereas the installer puts them some place else if I am not mistaken.

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Hello there. I installed Firefox 14.01 portable. There is a problem with dll files msvcr100.dlland msvcp100.dll just as with the palemoon
versions. I checked with Dependency walker there are missing import and export functions to kernel32.dll.




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