[Leyok]

Still recruiting?

I know I might be too late (I realize that you're inactive since 1 year), but I want to apply, I have a strong api knownledge, ability to read and understand disassembly, and I'm good at C.

I can successfully compile kernelex, I'm actually trying to implement desktops and window stations for Win9x as well as other APIs.

[schwups]

Leyok, on 16 January 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

Still recruiting?

I know I might be too late (I realize that you're inactive since 1 year), but I want to apply, I have a strong api knownledge, ability to read and understand disassembly, and I'm good at C.

I can successfully compile kernelex, I'm actually trying to implement desktops and window stations for Win9x as well as other APIs.

  You run into open doors! 

[rainyd]

Leyok, it would be really great if you could continue Xeno86's work and develop this excellent and important project for our small community.

[dencorso]

rainyd, on 16 January 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

Leyok, it would be really great if you could continue Xeno86's work and develop this excellent and important project for our small community.

Ditto. Welcome to MSFN!

[loblo]

rainyd, on 16 January 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

Leyok, it would be really great if you could continue Xeno86's work and develop this excellent and important project for our small community.

I couldn't agree more!

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Welcome! Will you add actual implementation or stubs?

P.S

If you decide to do this, this will allow me to take U98SESP3 beyond where it is at. I could start extending the 3.x build as soon as you release a stable build in due time. This means many users will benefit from this.

This post has been edited by PROBLEMCHYLD: 23 January 2013 - 01:04 PM

[Leyok]

Thanks all for the welcome, but don't do false hopes, because I'm still not in the project, the author seems to be inactive, so I'm not able to publish my works over SVN.

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Welcome! Will you add actual implementation or stubs?

I will add both, desktops and window station are actual implementations, they are *nearly* implemented, but, I don't use input device for desktops, I instead hide/show windows, it "works" well to me.

however :

- when you start EXPLORER in a new desktop, it doesn't start a new instance, instead, it open a folder, which resides on the explorer's desktop, I don't know if it's an explorer feature of Windows 9x, because in Windows NT, it starts a new instance
- 16-bit apps or apps that has KernelEx compatibility disabled will start on the input desktop
- window stations doesn't have their own atom table/clipboard (I could implement it but apps can disable KernelEx compatiblity)
- hung apps will have their windows showed on any desktops

I reworked ExitWindowsEx, organized files in kexbases.

And TeamViewer 6 is working (I don't know if it already worked before).

This post has been edited by Leyok: 16 January 2013 - 04:40 PM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

I'm glad you are here. Me and many others have been trying to breathe new life in the Win9x community. We've lost many over the years and gain so few. Believe it or not, you might help be my motivation for a Windows ME SP3. Lets see what the future brings. I feed off the negative and positive. Thanks again for your interest.

[MiKl]

Awesome news !!!

[jds]

Leyok, on 16 January 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

I will add both, desktops and window station are actual implementations, they are *nearly* implemented, but, I don't use input device for desktops, I instead hide/show windows, it "works" well to me.

however :

- when you start EXPLORER in a new desktop, it doesn't start a new instance, instead, it open a folder, which resides on the explorer's desktop, I don't know if it's an explorer feature of Windows 9x, because in Windows NT, it starts a new instance

..............

And TeamViewer 6 is working (I don't know if it already worked before).

To echo everyone else - Welcome!

Now, I'm a little confused by this "desktop", "window station" and "Explorer ... doesn't start a new instance" stuff. Is this something that will affect the normal behaviour of the W9X GUI?

Lastly, if I remember correctly, TeamViewer 6 runs natively on W98.

Joe.

This post has been edited by jds: 17 January 2013 - 01:21 AM

[bphlpt]

Since Xeno has not been seen here in over six months, and as you say he appears to be inactive at sourceforge and the KernelEx home page, perhaps some of the other more senior members here might have suggestions as to how/where to post your work.

Cheers and Regards

[schwups]

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- when you start EXPLORER in a new desktop, it doesn't start a new instance, instead, it open a folder, which resides on the explorer's desktop, I don't know if it's an explorer feature of Windows 9x, because in Windows NT, it starts a new instance

Do you mean "Launch folder windows in a separate process"? I can check this on Win ME.

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[Leyok]

jds, on 17 January 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:

To echo everyone else - Welcome!

Now, I'm a little confused by this "desktop", "window station" and "Explorer ... doesn't start a new instance" stuff. Is this something that will affect the normal behaviour of the W9X GUI?

Lastly, if I remember correctly, TeamViewer 6 runs natively on W98.

Joe.

http://msdn.microsof...v=vs.85%29.aspx

This will inded affect the normal behaviour of the GUI,
we could even make windows 9x run "multiples sessions" (but, they're not real isolated sessions),

to disconnect the current session, we have to see in USER.EXE how ExitWindows manage to send MPREXE a logoff message,
create a remote thread in MPREXE that create/open desktops and window stations, make MPREXE open the session,
and then we are done

schwups, on 17 January 2013 - 09:04 AM, said:

Do you mean "Launch folder windows in a separate process"? I can check this on Win ME.

I mean starting a new explorer shell, I'm actually confused that explorer doesn't start in a new desktop.

Anyways, if someone that can talk to Xeno, could tell him about me

This post has been edited by Leyok: 17 January 2013 - 12:53 PM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Leyok, on 17 January 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Anyways, if someone that can talk to Xeno, could tell him about me

There's nothing to talk to him about or tell him. You don't need his permission to update this. All you have to do is a find a place to upload the file and users will start testing. Xeno86 has left a long time ago and he doesn't plan on coming back anytime soon. If you are going to based the project off his feedback, then we can call it a dead issue. He's not responding to the Win9x community.

[MiKl]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on 17 January 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

Leyok, on 17 January 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Anyways, if someone that can talk to Xeno, could tell him about me

There's nothing to talk to him about or tell him. You don't need his permission to update this. All you have to do is a find a place to upload the file and users will start testing. Xeno86 has left a long time ago and he doesn't plan on coming back anytime soon. If you are going to based the project off his feedback, then we can call it a dead issue. He's not responding to the Win9x community.

If KernelEx is Open Source then I also don't think that you need Xeno's permission.
I would love if you could do something to enable us to use as modern browsers as possible.

[Leyok]

Well then, I made a repository : https://github.com/Ley0k/KernelEx/
as well as new modifications.

This post has been edited by Leyok: 17 January 2013 - 02:51 PM

[TmEE]

There is a GNU license, and it permits to do whatever you want as long as source is available.

I am stoked to see new developments !

[Xeno86]

Leyok, on 16 January 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Thanks all for the welcome, but don't do false hopes, because I'm still not in the project, the author seems to be inactive, so I'm not able to publish my works over SVN.

Well you haven't made a single attempt to contact me...

Anyway, it's nice to see some developer actually interested in continuing the project.
While I'm not actively developing the project myself anymore, I can help in getting started with the project.
Just PM me.

[dencorso]

Xeno86, on 17 February 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Leyok, on 16 January 2013 - 03:51 PM, said:

Thanks all for the welcome, but don't do false hopes, because I'm still not in the project, the author seems to be inactive, so I'm not able to publish my works over SVN.

Well you haven't made a single attempt to contact me...

Anyway, it's nice to see some developer actually interested in continuing the project.

It's great to hear from you, Xeno86!
And nice to see you still keep with us, even if not actively developing any 9x/ME projects anymore.

[coolman]

That looks great, Ley0k!
Would someone care to compile his repository, for some of us newbies?