Old tape backup drives in 98SE?
Posted 31 August 2011 - 02:59 PM
However having said that I discovered a few tidbits:
1. QIC-40 not supported in 98SE: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/124730 ( It looks like the Mountain device is not supported, I'm ok with that )
2. The Backup program (msbackup.exe) in 98SE is now supported/written by Seagate, as opposed to written by Colorado in the 95 version. How ironic since I have a Colorado device.
3. Looking in Device Manager Properties of the "Colorado QIC-40", I cannot assign a drive letter, whether or not point #1 applies.
4. And due to points #2 and #3, I have found that this Seagate MSBackup version requires something called Seagate Direct Tape Access (DTA) inorder to do such mundane tasks as assigning a drive letter. And doing some googling, I found this was a commercial (purchased) software. WTF? Why wasn't Colorado's version good enough to port over to 98SE? Did Colorado go defunct by then?
So my questions are now:
1. Can I copy Win95's MSBackup to 98SE and see if that works?
2. Where do I find this DTA? At the moment I don't care if it's legal or not. I've read somewhere that the last version is 4.01 (unless there's later ones).
3. Any 3rd party backup software I can use instead?
I did not find a list of tape software in that "Last software for 98SE" sticky thread. Any comments / info appreciated, thanks.
Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:03 AM
I don't get it.
That article says that the QIC 40 is supported in Windows 95 (no more, no less).
AFAICR the actual Colorado tapes were supported by both Win95 and 98 BUT the actual issue is specific to the QIC 40 model, see here:
(right info, wrong reference )
in their usual simplicity the good MS guys made the .qic format change a bit between different versions of MSbackup:
and later the 2K/XP version was completely different.
So, your best option IMHO is to install a real Windows 95.
OR try with a DOS program instead. (I presume some can still be found around)
Some ideas may probably be got from this only seemingly unrelated document:
AFAIK the Linux FTAPE program is compatible.
At the time "real" professional tape drives were SCSI, and for them we do still have an excellent proggy:
is your SCSI or the "poorman's" floppy connected one?
If this is the case you can try with a DOS program instead. (some can still be found around), like:
Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:51 AM
Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:57 AM
edit - You may need drivers (?) for the Jumbo. Google for "Colorado Backup II" (provided by HP) - DriverGuide has it. And FWIW, here's one specifically for the Jumbo 250 (apparently DOS Mode?) and here for Win95.
Some HP info.
Also, CBW95.EXE is Backup for Win95 (dunno if drivers are included)...
Also, it might be an IRQ/DMA conflict (have found possibly using IRQ=6/DMA=2 works).
This looks extremely promising (Colorado v9 with drivers)!
Errr, never mind - Win2K...
ARGGG!!! "Jumbo 120" - well, anyway, search DriverGuide (free signup)
This post has been edited by submix8c: 01 September 2011 - 12:58 PM
Posted 05 September 2011 - 08:23 AM
I have no idea if "floppy connected" tapes drivers exist for the NT family after NT 3.5 or 4.0, though.
If you are still looking for something, here:
is a good place to look for it .
Posted 14 September 2011 - 07:07 PM
And Submix8c is correct, using the tape drive auto-configure, it will use IRQ=6/DMA=2. At the I/O of 370. Anyway, more testing to go through before I decide to move this drive to my 95 box. I still don't have a hold of the original manuals and floppies, they're at another house at the moment.
Side note: There is one particular tape cartridge I may never be able to read again, not because of corrupt magnetics, but because the tape won't wind properly anymore. Because these are high speed streaming tapes, just a little bit of kink at some places or maybe a little bit of static electricity, the tape will stick to the rubber runner band that makes the tapes spin. This will cause the tape to stick to it and at that high a speed, the tape will go out of whack and get pulled around. It's similar to when the old audiocassettes start streaming tape all over the place, heh. I tried rewindind the tape, careful to have it at the right tension, but because it has so many kinks in the tape, it won't stay straight anymore as it goes from one wheel to the other. The only way it may probably work is if it the drives spins it at 10 times slower, which would be impossible unless you know how to modify the hardware (and software) to do that.
Posted 15 September 2011 - 02:04 AM
Traditionally you use graphite powder to lubricate the tape cartridge innards.
It can be bought as graphite powder, but all you need is one of those large mechanicl pencil leads, and a piece of fine sandpaper.
(it is sub-otimal as there is clay in them together with graphite, but it is usually good enough)