[submix8c]

I don't have the wherewithal to test this. Has anyone else?

ZDNet story here. If true, then non-Microsoft multibooters may want to reconsider...

[allen2]

Not many people may have their hands on the required hardware as most motherboard doesn't even support uefi booting right now. Also i don't see how oems could completly look out users from modding the bios as it already exist for many motherboards.

[MagicAndre1981]

simply read hardware tests before you buy new PCs and check if the OEM includes an option to disable the "secure boot" option. If not, simply don't buy such products and buy other hardware which give you the choice to disable "secure boot".

[Tripredacus]

Its too early to tell about this. The Dev Preview didn't have anything to build a system like that.

[endlessness]

Even if this happens, I guess major Linux distros (Ubuntu, Red Hat, SUSE etc...) will be able to get boot keys. But smaller community-backed distros probably won't.

[MagicAndre1981]

but GRUB is GPL and so the key must be made public and malware can use it, too. So secure boot is useless.

[Tripredacus]

Here is some more info about Secure Boot with UEFI.
http://www.msfn.org/...cure-boot-r8848

[MagicAndre1981]

the link doesn't work.

[jaclaz]

MagicAndre1981, on 28 October 2011 - 04:51 PM, said:

the link doesn't work.

This one should do anyway :
http://www.h-online....ot-1368401.html
https://www.linuxfou...-open-platforms

jaclaz

[Tripredacus]

MagicAndre1981, on 28 October 2011 - 04:51 PM, said:

the link doesn't work.

It works for me...
Its just a link to the MSFN frontpage...

[MagicAndre1981]

today it works. Maybe at thew time you linked it the post was not published.

[Tripredacus]

Anyways, everything I'm seeing isn't really being done by Microsoft. Microsoft has a plan to use UEFI with the next OS, but has largely left it up to the board/BIOS manufacturers to figure out how to do it. As you can imagine, not everyone is on board (no pun intended) with this plan. Many of the smaller integrators like Pegatron, Gammatech, AOpen, etc have no plans for such things (or seem oblivious to the idea) so if they end up going the way of UEFI and SecureBoot, it would be done by someone else in the chain, such as the BIOS manufacturers.

[dencorso]

Proactive anxiety in not a good frame-of-mind, IMHO.
Let's wait and see whether there is a problem, before setting on solving it.
Or, as we say here in Brazil: "Tomorrow we'll think about it!".

[CoffeeFiend]

dencorso, on 01 November 2011 - 09:36 PM, said:

Or, as we say here in Brazil: "Tomorrow we'll think about it!".

I like it

I like to think the people who are building this system aren't completely incompetent and have thought of basic issues like dual booting. Either ways, you should still be able to boot from a plain old BIOS (Win8 or otherwise).

[Joseph_sw]

this makes me curious, if MS got this idea from Sony' PS3' OtherOS removal fiascos ...

[Tripredacus]

So far what I can see is that this new "BIOS" other than supporting the new UEFI spec is that it is not any different than anything we're already used to seeing. That meaning we can just put any OS on the board that you want. I think the problem with the dual boot thing is that it isn't really a supported scenario. Think that all Microsoft OS is built with either the OEM end user or for use in the Enterprise where dual boots aren't supported. Is a dual boot even officially supported under Windows 7?

[dencorso]

Dual-booting is a integral part of the NT-Family OSes design from incept time, and they always installed a boot menu component by default, to confirm it.

[Tripredacus]

dencorso, on 03 November 2011 - 12:13 AM, said:

Dual-booting is a integral part of the NT-Family OSes design from incept time, and they always installed a boot menu component by default, to confirm it.

Yes I know the function is built in and it is documented, but that doesn't mean it is officially supported.

[cluberti]

UEFI SecureBoot is a security mechanism to protect the OS in enterprise environments. However, it can be turned off (which allows dual-booting again), at the expense of some system security.

[submix8c]

Hmmm.... at least a number of clarifications given in the thread. As dencorso said... ditto!