dencorso Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 I'm aware if the AVG Rescue Linux CD, freely available from the AVG site.I'm also aware of the MS Standalone System Sweeper tool, although I don't know how good is it. Please advise.Now I ask, what other solutions exist, that can be used instead of those two above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Now I ask, what other solutions exist, that can be used instead of those two above?*any* PE with an antivirus of your choice. jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Sure.When one has a clean machine and knowledge about how to make a PE and how to add an anti-virus to it, that's fine.Now, seriously, I'm asking about, fully legal, ready-for-use .ISOs a common user may download, burn and use, possibly creating a bona-fide scanner from his/her only machine, which would probably be already infected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen2 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Like MacAffee cleanboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JorgeA Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 (edited) Now, seriously, I'm asking about, fully legal, ready-for-use .ISOs a common user may download, burn and use, possibly creating a bona-fide scanner from his/her only machine, which would probably be already infected.dencorso,Here are the ones I use:Panda SafeCD Bootable DiscAcronis Antimalware CD (they use a version of Bit Defender)The Ultimate Boot CD contains the Avira AntiVir scanner (at least it did when I downloaded it several months ago, the CD contents on their website seem to change often).Spybot Search & Destroy Personal Edition is a Windows 7 PE CD, but you have to pay some $$$ to get it. It comes in the mail "ready to wear," in a nice CD case Seems to work well, though.Finally, if you have a subscription to a Norton product you're entitled to download and burn the Norton Bootable Recovery Tool, which includes a malware scanner.The first three of these work off Linux live CDs. I also have an ISO for AVG, but haven't gotten around to burning and trying it.Note: The Panda and UBCD scanners even work on my Windows 98 tower! B) Hope this helps! In appreciation of all that you've done for me, I'm glad to be able to be the one supplying you with an answer for a change.--JorgeA Edited October 15, 2011 by JorgeA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Sure.When one has a clean machine and knowledge about how to make a PE and how to add an anti-virus to it, that's fine.Now, seriously, I'm asking about, fully legal, ready-for-use .ISOs a common user may download, burn and use, possibly creating a bona-fide scanner from his/her only machine, which would probably be already infected.Well, you started it :I'm also aware of the MS Standalone System Sweeper tool, although I don't know how good is it. Please advise.If you were actualy aware of it (in the sense of not "being aware of it's existence only"), you would have known that you "build" a PE 3.x out of it, which of course assumes -at least theoretically - that you have a clean and fully working OS.However, JFYI :http://reboot.pro/14487/Many anti-virus vendors provide a "boot CD" for free, another two examples:http://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/rescuediskhttp://rescuedisk.kaspersky-labs.com/rescuedisk/updatable/http://www.bitdefender.com/support/How-to-create-a-BitDefender-Rescue-CD-627.htmlhttp://download.bitdefender.com/rescue_cd/but still there is the logic loophole, you need ANYWAY a computer capable of:accessing the Internet dowload pageburn the .iso to CDad this system should be - at least theoretically - "clean" from virii or malwareLike (on a "non clean" system *somehow* still apparently working):dowload the .iso a virus corrupts ityou burn the .isothe antivirus in it will be corrupted or won't work because of main .exe checksumloop to #1 AFTER having had access to a surely "clean" machinejaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Like MacAffee cleanboot.Yes! However, it being based on PE requires a clean machine for creation...Can you say anything about how good is it? It's been more than 10 years since I stopped using McAfee products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share Posted October 15, 2011 Like (on a "non clean" system *somehow* still apparently working):dowload the .iso a virus corrupts ityou burn the .isothe antivirus in it will be corrupted or won't work because of main .exe checksumloop to #1 AFTER having had access to a surely "clean" machineWell, now you're nearer what I initially meant: My idea is more like being able to offer people a "second opinion" so I was thinking of a machine which has a working anti-virus solution, or is a tightly secured environment, like herbalist's defaut-deny machine (much less common and difficult to find in the wild). So it should be free, and easy to set up, and I cannot think of anything easier than burning an .ISO that just works. Of course, if the system is infected and the virus (or whatever) is paranoid enough to corrupt .ISOs, that would be that. It's probably easier (an more perverse) to infect any executable from optical media burning software, BTW, and prevent it from working or corrupt the created CD, while letting the .ISOs alone.I don't think .ISO corruption is all that common (but I may be wrong, and I know you're going to correct the "error of my ways" right away, if that's the case) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen2 Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Yes! However, it being based on PE requires a clean machine for creation...Can you say anything about how good is it? It's been more than 10 years since I stopped using McAfee products.I tried first versions and they were ok. Didn't try the 2.x so i can't say.You'd need at least a computer to burn the iso and that's what MacAfee provide there (if you read the usage instructions).# In the Download column, click CLEANBOOT200ML_237.zip (or higher).# Select Save File and click OK.# If you have CD/DVD image burning software, use this to burn the CleanBoot ISO image file to a CD.If you do not have image burning software or are unfamiliar with how to burn an ISO image, see the Related Information section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Yep , the idea of a "secured" machine is nice , but then an IODD/CDEMU/ZM-VE200 (or something the like) could be even "handier" (you even avoid to "burn" the .iso, just download it to the device).Of course the idea of the malware corrupting the .iso (or the burner) is purely theoretical, and it depends greatly on the kind of malware whether you would be able to download and burn the .iso properly on the "affected" machine.Something I do wonder is why these nice peeps of the QAntivirus firms do not provide a MD5 or SHA1 checksum of the .iso image (most probably the contents of the various .iso's are "self-authenticated", but having a fast and clean way to check whether the download was successful and being able to check quickly if the .iso had modifications seems to me like a handy feature). jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 Let's up the ante! Sometime in the past jaclaz told me "if one has to register, even if for free, then it's not really freeware", or something in that sense.While I don't necessarily agree with that statement for every case, when there are good alternatives that don't ask for any registration, they're surely preferable.So, adding a "no registration whatsoever" constraint and a "pre-made .iso" (which one can burn with whatever burner one happens to have or like) constraint, the number of possibilities thins... The following solutions do meet these further constraints:1) The AVG Rescue CD2) The Kaspersky Rescue Disk 3) The Acronis Antimalware CD4) The BitDefender Rescue CDI wasn't able to download the Panda Safe CD from the given link, which for me is unreachable at the moment... has it perhaps changed? Moreover, I admit I've not yet followed every link you all provided, but from those I did follow I downloaded the .ISO, burned it to a Mini CD RW and tested the resulting bootable CD. If asked to register or offered anything different from a ready-made .ISO, I've skipped that solution and went on. I wish to wholeheartedly thank all the participants in this thread for joining this discussion and contributing to it. You all rock! My idea is to provide a list of ready-to-use antivirus solutions that can be downloaded on-demand and be put to use fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-t-c Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) BTW: (It's in german, but) some collected Links ... http://www.essential-freebies.de/board/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=13519cheers e-t-c & ^L^ Edited October 17, 2011 by e-t-c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaclaz Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Sometime in the past jaclaz told me "if one has to register, even if for free, then it's not really freeware", or something in that sense.Yes, free can mean BOTH free as in freedom and free as in free beer.IMHO whenever someone is asking you to register, it is NOT anymore free (as in free beer) as you actually pay the software by giving away some personal information.And it is not of course "free as in freedom" as you have to register.As an example, my half-@§§ed scripts are free, I don't want to know who you are, what is your e-mail, and you don't even have to respect the suggested Careware license:http://jaclaz.altervista.org/Projects/careware.htmlImportant Note: if you don't like this idea, just ignore it -- you can have this anyway.Though I understand the reasons why someone which produces also Commercial products is interested in your data and actually there is nothing "bad" in asking for them, and in giving them as well, still it is not "free". jaclaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dencorso Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 So, adding a "no registration whatsoever" constraint and a "pre-made .iso" (which one can burn with whatever burner one happens to have or like) constraint, the number of possibilities thins... The following solutions do meet these further constraints:1) The AVG Rescue CD2) The Kaspersky Rescue Disk 3) The Acronis Antimalware CD4) The BitDefender Rescue CD5) The Panda SafeCD6) The Avira AntiVir Rescue SystemThanks a lot, e-t-c, for the pointer to that fantastic thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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