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Would it be possible to create a special Service Pack containing updates working thanks to Kernelex and not available or not stable without it?

In other words could KernelEx allow more updates to function on w9x?
Here is the list of known KernelEx-only updates everybody seems to agree with:

MSPAINT.EXE 5.1.2600.5918
MSXML3.DLL 8.100.1052.0
QUARTZ.DLL 6.5.1.914
NOTEPAD.EXE 5.1.2600.5512
VC_R_9X.EXE
WORDPAD.EXE 5.00.2195.7155
USBVIEW.EXE 2.0.1.0
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Edited by Fredledingue, 26 February 2012 - 02:21 PM.

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I know at least one: quartz.dll 6.5.1.914 Windows2000-DirectX9-KB975562-x86-ENU.exe

http://www.microsoft...ylang=en&id=358

Edited by loblo, 02 December 2011 - 06:09 PM.


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Here' another http://www.mdgx.com/files/VC_R_9X.EXE
Even though I don't use KernelEX, I wouldn't mind creating a version of SP3 for you KEX lovers.
If you guys get me a list I will create a special pack for you.

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mspaint.exe 5.00.2195.7368
wordpad.exe 5.00.2195.7155
oleaut32.dll 2.40.4532
dxmasf.dll 6.4.09.1133

However, replacing those files is not necessary because they are outdated. Besides, the oleaut32.dll from 2000 crashed my game in 98 and 2000.

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winhlp32.exe from XP (don't know exact version). It adds support for mouse wheel for scrolling, which is rather convenient.

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winhlp32.exe from XP (don't know exact version). It adds support for mouse wheel for scrolling, which is rather convenient.

Good to know, so far I was using that old FreeWheel program as background app for that purpose. I guess I can get rid of it now.

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I know at least one: quartz.dll 6.5.1.914 Windows2000-DirectX9-KB975562-x86-ENU.exe
http://www.microsoft...ylang=en&id=358

Thx loblo, good to know! :thumbup I will try it.
You didn't noticed any side-effect?


mspaint.exe 5.00.2195.7368

mspaint.exe 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2105) is working just fine ;)


winhlp32.exe from XP (don't know exact version). It adds support for mouse wheel for scrolling, which is rather convenient.

I have deleted it, because it was always creating several empty 'Help' folders.
I think one place was %WinDir%\Application Data. :}


EDIT: I have found MSPAINT.EXE 5.1.2600.5918 (xpsp_sp3_gdr.091216-2054) which is working equally fine,

but I don't find any difference between those 3 versions:
5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2105)
5.1.2600.5918 (xpsp_sp3_gdr.091216-2054)
Maybe only security fixes? :wacko:

Edited by CharlesF, 18 December 2011 - 03:03 PM.


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I like the idea ... provided that it will have a LEADER who will sort all submitted proposals. I think that every file should have its source and required cooperating files noted.

In order not to be groundless: already reported as running under Windows 98SE + KernelEx 4.52 Wordpad.exe 5.00.2195.7155 file is derived from hotfix: Windows2000-KB923561-x86-....exe, to the work needs to necessarily Mfc42u.dll file - which is not normal used in Windows 9x/ME.

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I know at least one: quartz.dll 6.5.1.914 Windows2000-DirectX9-KB975562-x86-ENU.exe
http://www.microsoft...ylang=en&id=358

loblo,

The version of quartz.dll included in your patch, is 6.05.2600.1316!
Where will I find the 6.5.1.914 one? :whistle:

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That's the right one CharlesF, if you look at the file version entry at the top of the version tab of the properties page you'll see that the file version is 6.5.1.914.

And to answer you previous question, it seems to be working without issues here.

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That's the right one CharlesF,
if you look at the file version entry at the top of the version tab of the properties page you'll see that the file version is 6.5.1.914.

I'm sorry but I don't understand: :huh:

[attachment=33635:quartz_dll.png]

And to answer you previous question, it seems to be working without issues here.

Thanks :) .

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I'm sorry but I don't understand: :huh:

There must be a difference between Win 98 and Me as to what gets displayed in the top file version field I guess. You can have a look at the version info resource with Reshacker and you'll find the 6.5.1.914 value in the second and third line:

1 VERSIONINFO
FILEVERSION 6,5,1,914
PRODUCTVERSION 6,5,1,914
FILEOS 0x4
FILETYPE 0x2
{
BLOCK "StringFileInfo"
{
BLOCK "040904E4"
{
VALUE "CompanyName", "Microsoft Corporation"
VALUE "FileDescription", "DirectShow Runtime."
VALUE "FileVersion", "6.05.2600.1316"
VALUE "InternalName", "Quartz.dll"
VALUE "LegalCopyright", "Copyright © 1992-2001 Microsoft Corp."
VALUE "OriginalFilename", "Quartz.dll"
VALUE "ProductName", "DirectShow"
VALUE "ProductVersion", "6.05.2600.1316"
VALUE "DirectShow", "Core"
VALUE "OLESelfRegister", "DXM20"
}
}

BLOCK "VarFileInfo"
{
VALUE "Translation", 0x0409 0x04B0
}
}

And this is what I get in Explorer:

Posted Image

Edited by loblo, 18 December 2011 - 01:22 AM.


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You can have a look at the version info resource with Reshacker and you'll find the 6.5.1.914 value in the second and third line

You are right! B)

... and, yes it is running fine.
I have checked in DirectX Diag (from the config panel) and with The KMPlayer who is based upon DirectShow.

Thanks :thumbup .

EDIT: Huum, I may be wrong about The KMP.
It appears that it is using his own korean version included in his folder: Old_QUARTZ.DLL.

Edited by CharlesF, 18 December 2011 - 03:10 PM.


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Here's a newer version of USBVIEW.EXE http://www.ftdichip....t/Utilities.htm
I have not tested.

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 21 December 2011 - 04:35 PM.

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Finaly some replies!

Keep it on guys! And merry Xmass to all!

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@ Fredledingue

Here is a list of files throughout this topic.
If you can keep the first post updated with the list, it will be much easier in the future. Thanks :thumbup

MSPAINT.EXE 5.1.2600.5918
MSXML3.DLL 8.100.1052.0
QUARTZ.DLL 6.5.1.914
NOTEPAD.EXE 5.1.2600.5512
VC_R_9X.EXE
WORDPAD.EXE 5.00.2195.7155
USBVIEW.EXE 2.0.1.0

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 24 February 2012 - 03:16 PM.

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If you can keep the first post updated with the list, it will be much easier in the future.

+1 :thumbup

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MSXML3.DLL 8.100.1052.0

I already added it to the list. :thumbup

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NOTEPAD.EXE 5.1.2600.5512

I already added it to the list. :thumbup

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I'll keep the list updated on the top of the trhead.

Let's hope that there will be more entries because 3 out of 7 are applications, not realy system updates.
But it's a good start! ;)

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Edited by Fredledingue, 26 February 2012 - 02:25 PM.

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I'll keep the list updated on the top of the trhead.

Let's hope that there will be more entries because 3 out of 7 are applications, not realy system updates.
But it's a good start! ;)

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I hope the KernelEX users has more files to post. Once I add this option its close curtains.

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I did a lot of photo editing with mspaint (win 98) about 10 years ago. I noticed that when I did rezising of photos in xp, the quality was not as good as with win 98 (mostly shrinking 50%). So I made sure to never use xp mspaint for this.

Maybe xp mspaint is better in some other ways, but I prefer win 98 mspaint because of this "discovery"...

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Maybe it's simply due to the JPG compression level the of the new image which is different in w98 and XP?

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Maybe it's simply due to the JPG compression level the of the new image which is different in w98 and XP?


Nope, I always did this on bitmap-format (.bmp).

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As I know, Windows 98 mspaint saves only BMP, not JPG.




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