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#161 User is offline   Prozactive 

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Posted 17 November 2011 - 11:40 AM

First of all, thank you so much for the latest KernelEx 4.5.2 update. I thought that development had stopped, as mentioned in a separate thread, so this was an unexpected surprise and I'm deeply appreciative.

It's been a month since I updated Opera as mentioned in this post so I thought I'd give a quick update. I finally successfully updated Opera from 10.63 to 11.51 (and later 11.52) by extracting the Opera Setup files with 7-Zip and manually overwriting all older Opera files. After a lot of aggravating time-consuming work reconfiguring Opera 11.5x to look and work like 10.63 (bookmarks toolbar on top, pulldown arrow for URL history in address bar, full URL displayed in address bar, etc.), I have to say that I'm very pleased. Opera 11.5x seems to be noticeably faster than 10.63 and also much more stable. Opera 10.63 would periodically crash with a stack fault in module KERNEL32.DLL, but so far that has not occurred with 11.5x. In fact, 11.5x has not crashed once since I started using it. There still are a few minor annoying bugs in 11.5x but like I said, overall I'm extremely pleased.

There was one odd puzzling event that did occur sometime along the way while using Opera 11.5x. I ran a registry scan and was surprised to find numerous registry errors associated with Java. Further investigation showed that all Java 2 SE Runtime Environment 5.0 system files had somehow been deleted from my system. This must've automatically occurred while web browsing with Opera 11.5x as I certainly did not delete or uninstall Java 5.0. I do recall reading an extensive discussion in this thread about a year ago about incompatibilities and problems with Opera 11 and Java 5 and 6. I probably should go back and reread that information to see what corrective actions to take, if any. So far the lack of Java has not caused any issues whatsoever.

One last thing, I use Avast! 4.8 antivirus and it did not have any false positives with KernelEx 4.5.2 as mentioned recently. That error must occur with later versions of Avast!

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Posted 17 November 2011 - 01:29 PM

Opera 11 & 12 running fine by the 7-zip + overwrite trick ya came up with.

Dave

PS: Since Opera 10, the native skin has been in want of want.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 10:21 AM

Beware the latest build 1155 of Opera 12 Alpha that was JUST released. IT DON'T WORK. THE DEVS MESSED UP BIG TIME. Not a KernelEX problem.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 02:08 AM

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Even a lot of apps that say they support an older windows system will not work, So KernalEX is a much needed add on to help keep an older system working.


Thanks to KernelEx I can use Opera 11.11 Turbo.

My favorite browser for dialup. No javascript errors, it's really fast, and everything works flawlessly.

I can probably get at least a few years out of it before it starts to slow down, then I'll just upgrade to 11.50, or whatever the next higher number is.

I'm in no hurry. :) :)

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 08:36 AM

What about Java (not to be confused with JavaScript)?

Joe.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 09:53 AM

I just submitted a long list of posts to dencorso to be consolidated into the new Opera/KernelEx discussion thread. This thread should also be incorporated into that one.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 01:35 PM

View PostProzactive, on 02 December 2011 - 09:53 AM, said:

I just submitted a long list of posts to dencorso to be consolidated into the new Opera/KernelEx discussion thread. This thread should also be incorporated into that one.


If I may, saying "latest version" of Opera may mean *something* today, but won't on one week/one month time. (and same applies to KernelEx)

Latest at the time of this post should be 11.52 :unsure:
Latest version of KernelEx should be 4.5.2 :thumbup

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 10:36 AM

BTW, where does Opera store cookies, history and whatever it calls the "Temporary Internet Files" if it keeps them?

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 10:53 AM

Somewhere under Windows/Application Data/Opera for a standard install but some of it can be relocated (cache folder especially) to another drive/location by editing the operaprefs_default.ini (which should be placed next to opera.exe) as to avoid constant writes from Opera to the system drive for example. See this post attachment here for an operaprefs_default.ini sample:

http://www.msfn.org/...post__p__964313

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 11:30 AM

It seems to vary based on the version of Opera.

The current version 11.52 puts its cache/temp files in:
\Windows\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\Opera\cache\sesn

The previous version 10.63 had them in:
\Windows\Application Data\Opera\Opera\cache\sesn

The prefs/config data (history, bookmarks, etc.) remain in:
\Windows\Application Data\Opera\Opera

for both 11.52 and 10.63.

Opera 9.64 had its prefs/config data and cache/temp files in yet different folders located within \Windows\Application Data\Opera\Opera as I recall.

HTH. Thanks for all the effort moving and consolidating all of the Opera-related posts in this new comprehensive Opera thread.

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Posted 06 December 2011 - 12:50 PM

View PostProzactive, on 06 December 2011 - 11:30 AM, said:

The current version 11.52 puts its cache/temp files in:
\Windows\Local Settings\Application Data\Opera\Opera\cache\sesn

Here it's in WINDOWS\Application Data\Opera\OPERA\cache for 11.52 and there are multiple subfolders containing temp files, not only sesn.

The vps, opcache, application_cache and PSTORAGE folders also seems to store some volatile data as they can all be deleted without incidence apparently.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:18 PM

View Postdencorso, on 06 December 2011 - 10:36 AM, said:

BTW, where does Opera store cookies, history and whatever it calls the "Temporary Internet Files" if it keeps them?


This freeware: OperaCacheView v1.37 can partially help you to find what & where Opera is storing those files.

OperaCacheView is a small utility that reads the cache folder of Opera Web browser, and displays the list of all files currently stored in the cache. For each cache file, the following information is displayed: URL, Content type, File size, Last accessed time, and last modified time in the server.
You can easily select one or more items from the cache list, and then extract the files to another folder, or copy the URLs list to the clipboard.


HTH
Charles :) .

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:35 PM

Here's a proxy app for Opera.
http://my.opera.com/...proxy-for-opera

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 10:33 PM

View Postdencorso, on 04 December 2011 - 12:27 AM, said:

This is a work-in-progress. It'll take days to move all relevant posts here.
Please be patient.

It's done! :yes:
So... now, please re-read the full thread looking for: (i) things that clearly don't belong here and (ii) some post that is missing and creates problems for the understanding of this discussion (it's not quite easy, but it can be hunted down and moved here too), and let me know.
Also, is there any other minor threads that would be better merged here? Let's finish this completely and move on, OK?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 03:38 PM

I was using Opera ftp built-in client. It allowed me to connect to the server but I was not able to change files and folders.
Yes I have permissions to make changes. Anybody know how to fix this?

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 04:24 PM

View PostPROBLEMCHYLD, on 08 December 2011 - 03:38 PM, said:

I was using Opera ftp built-in client. It allowed me to connect to the server but I was not able to change files and folders.
Yes I have permissions to make changes. Anybody know how to fix this?

I don't think there is anything to fix, Opera does lots of things but, as far as I know, it isn't an FTP application, aside from browsing/downloading files from FTP sites like most other web browsers do of course.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 04:55 PM

View Postloblo, on 08 December 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

I don't think there is anything to fix, Opera does lots of things but, as far as I know, it isn't an FTP application, aside from browsing/downloading files from FTP sites like most other web browsers do of course.

Thank loblo

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 01:05 PM

Thanks again dencorso! I see that Opera 11.60 was recently released. Anyone try it yet?

I have come across one particularly annoying bug in Opera 11.52. For some reason, the PgDn key doesn't properly page down one page at a time. Opera 11.52 tends to skip down much more than a page. I think the PgUp key tends to work better overall but it still may have similar quirky behavior. I don't recall this occurring at all with Opera 10.63.

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 05:15 PM

Yes, I have upgraded to Opera 11.60 installing it and running it with Win 2000 compatibility under Kernelex - it works fine.

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Posted 17 December 2011 - 07:01 PM

View PostProzactive, on 15 December 2011 - 01:05 PM, said:

Opera 11.60 was recently released. Anyone try it yet?

Opera 11.60 is fine. :yes:
The most annoying bug with those last versions for me, is the loss of the drag&drop to desktop to create an Internet Shortcut.
I didn't found any way except manually to create one now :realmad: .

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