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The ultimate metrotard nadir:

 

http://www.techbroil...683891903098046

 

I just keep shaking my head in disbelief at the positions some of these folks take.

 

BTW, are you the "anonymous" who wrote this gem with respect to the "XP retirement party" graphic:

 

My personal favorite: "#3 Built for Business".

 

Yeah. Sort of like how condoms are built for the celibate.

 

:lol:

 

(No need to reveal your true identity. Just expressing appreciation.)

 

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BTW, are you the "anonymous" who wrote this gem with respect to the "XP retirement party" graphic:

 

My personal favorite: "#3 Built for Business".

 

Yeah. Sort of like how condoms are built for the celibate.

 

:lol:

 

(No need to reveal your true identity. Just expressing appreciation.)

 

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No. But yea, that was a good one.



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New Microsoft infographic gives Windows XP a retirement party ( NeoWin 2013-07-24 )

Grrrr. How lame can they get! An "infographic" that is childish and Metroish and worst of all, ridiculous. It is supposedly designed to tell businesses why they need to go from Windows XP to Windows 8, yet they offer absolutely zero business reasons and actually embarrass themselves in the process by talking about social and other stuff.

Have a look ... Microsoft_RetirementParty.jpg ( 1.5 MB )

 

 

That picture hurts my eyes. Also reminds me of the kind of things I could create with whatever bloatware came with the Windows 95 on my old Packard Bell.

 

 

A correction is needed in the box to the left of balloon #3. Instead of ending with "find the charms," the sentence should read, "is annoyed by the charms." Or, "is interrupted by the charms."

 

Also, it would be interesting to learn how many of that "virtually everyone" who launches an app "on the very first day," launches an app on the second or subsequent days.

 

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Windows Weekly 312 features a spirited debate between Leo and Mary Jo (mostly) against guest Peter Bright, who defended Windows 8, the removal of the Start Button, and Metro apps.

 

The fun starts quietly at 57:30 with a factual report by Mary Jo and then the fireworks begin about 58:35. And about a minute after that, Leo brings up the idea of an OS that can tell what kind of hardware it's on, and select Desktop or Metro accordingly.

 

Peter states that bringing back the Start Button is a mistake "if" Metro apps are the future, as people need to start getting used to that interface. Whereupon Leo uncorks the best line of the whole discussion:

 

LL: Yeah, but are Metro apps the future? That's a terrifying future! I don't want everything to be full-screen -- that's a step backwards, that's called DOS with GUI, with graphics.

 

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Peter Bright just dies when discussing with Leo Laporte. His facial expressions when debating with Mary and Leo are priceless.

 

1:09:00 - Pure destruction of Peter Bright. It's like all the bad moments of the presidential debates rolled into one compilation vid.

 

Metrotards would be booed out in a TV debate. That's why there is such a strong censorship on places like Neowin.

 

 

That was a great sequence indeed. Leo just tears apart the whole "full-screen Metro app" notion while Peter feebly tries to rationalize it.

 

If there were a focus group with their approval meters, you could almost see the Win8 graph plummeting at this point.

 

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This one will either make you laugh hysterically or cry, or maybe both ...

NSA Says It Cant Search Its Own Emails ( ProPublica 2013-07-23 )



The NSA is a "supercomputing powerhouse" with machines so powerful their speed is measured in thousands of trillions of operations per second. The agency turns its giant machine brains to the task of sifting through unimaginably large troves of data its surveillance programs capture.

But ask the NSA, as part of a freedom of information request, to do a seemingly simple search of its own employees' email? The agency says it doesnt have the technology.

"There's no central method to search an email at this time with the way our records are set up, unfortunately," NSA Freedom of Information Act officer Cindy Blacker told me last week.

The system is a little antiquated and archaic," she added.


Sounds like a big fat lie to me. :yes:

 

We've all heard of the idea of "plausible deniability." Well, this is highly implausible deniability!

 

So, they can tap into people's transatlantic communications, assemble pettabytes of data, connect people to everyone else they're in contact with -- and yet they can't search their own e-mail?

 

Yeah, right.

 

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So, they can tap into people's transatlantic communications, assemble pettabytes of data, connect people to everyone else they're in contact with -- and yet they can't search their own e-mail?

 

Yeah, right.

 

 

Well, seemingly they also cannot (or don't care to provide this technology to FBI) what should be a much simpler core (for people possessing super-computers) i.e. decrypt a hard disk:

http://www.theregist...rypto_lock_out/

 

There is something else that it is sometimes not highlighted (IMNSHO) enough.

 

Since a lot of time, the world is a tower of Babel, there are more languages and dialects than stars in the sky, there was a recent criminal case in Italy where a communication (a normal, cellular phone call) has been intercepted (fully legally, i.e. in accordance to a Court order) in which a suspect, talking in an arabic/maghreb dialect supposedly said something to the effect of:

"May God forgive me, she is not the one I killed!"

That is according to the interpreter that was initially called to translate and transcribe the recording.

According to another interpreter, the sentence was actually meaning something to the effect of:

"May God make him answer the call!"

and another one:

"God, why doesn't the call go through?"

and another one:

"Why, why doesn't he answer the phone, why God?"

and some 4 (four) other different versions similar to the last three ones.

 

Now you can understand how the first equates to a confession, and all the others to some form of cursing from someone that tries to talk to someone and doesn't manage to do that and is consequently annoyed.

 

On the other hand, even in a litlle country like Italy, still some dialects survive that are understood and talked ONLY in a very limited area.

 

With all due respect for the NSA and the US military, I never had the impression they are - generally speaking - particularly versed in polyglotism, and allow me to doubt that computer aided analysis is that much effective when it comes to "spoken language" (anyone that ever trained a voice interface will know what I mean).

 

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So, they can tap into people's transatlantic communications, assemble pettabytes of data, connect people to everyone else they're in contact with -- and yet they can't search their own e-mail?

 

Yeah, right.

 

 

Well, seemingly they also cannot (or don't care to provide this technology to FBI) what should be a much simpler core (for people possessing super-computers) i.e. decrypt a hard disk:

http://www.theregist...rypto_lock_out/

 

 

Wow, that story shows the value of good encryption. I do wonder, though, what the reporter had in mind with the highlighted text in the following quote:

 

The case is an illustration of how care in choosing secure (hard-to-guess) passwords and applying encryption techniques to avoid leaving file fragments that could aid code breakers are more important in maintaining security than the algorithm a code maker chooses.

 

 

 

jaclaz, on 24 Jul 2013 - 1:26 PM, said:

There is something else that it is sometimes not highlighted (IMNSHO) enough.

Since a lot of time, the world is a tower of Babel, there are more languages and dialects than stars in the sky, there was a recent criminal case in Italy where a communication (a normal, cellular phone call) has been intercepted (fully legally, i.e. in accordance to a Court order) in which a suspect, talking in an arabic/maghreb dialect supposedly said something to the effect of:

"May God forgive me, she is not the one I killed!"

That is according to the interpreter that was initially called to translate and transcribe the recording.

According to another interpreter, the sentence was actually meaning something to the effect of:

"May God make him answer the call!"

and another one:

"God, why doesn't the call go through?"

and another one:

"Why, why doesn't he answer the phone, why God?"

and some 4 (four) other different versions similar to the last three ones.

Now you can understand how the first equates to a confession, and all the others to some form of cursing from someone that tries to talk to someone and doesn't manage to do that and is consequently annoyed.

On the other hand, even in a litlle country like Italy, still some dialects survive that are understood and talked ONLY in a very limited area.

With all due respect for the NSA and the US military, I never had the impression they are - generally speaking - particularly versed in polyglotism, and allow me to doubt that computer aided analysis is that much effective when it comes to "spoken language" (anyone that ever trained a voice interface will know what I mean).

jaclaz

 

 

For voice communications that's a real problem, and as we can see from your example it can serve to get someone (who may be perfectly innocent) into trouble as easily as it could keep a guilty party out of trouble.

 

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Whoa, once again Demerjian pulls no punches as he dismantles Microsoft's Windows 8(.1) strategy, performance, and future:

 

Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up

 

A selection from the many quotables:

 

Microsoft has driven off the cliff into the death spiral and rather than change direction they are trying to speed up their ‘momentum’. Endless reorgs, paid analyst reports, and flat-out lying to anyone who will listen won’t help, they can not succeed from their current position.

 

 

Rather than fire those responsible they picked a scapegoat and executed him for no real reason other than to shield the incompetent. Most onlookers doubted what we said about the severity of the break, it alone is fatal to Microsoft. Let us reiterate, you are underestimating it. Rather than back pedal, Microsoft announced the impending glory of their new devices and services strategy leaving ‘valued partners’ no doubt that if they don’t flee now they are dead. Every ‘valued partner’ sells lots of Android tablets now, the last Dell PC a friend purchased came with a WART tablet at what appears to be less than hardware costs. How many OEMs put anything more than meager efforts behind selling WART/Win8 tablets? Think they are getting enough volume in return to pay for the case tooling?

 

 

When SemiAccurate was at GDC last spring we asked almost every dev we talked to about WART and Windows Phone development. The answers were all the same, those with apps indicated that they were handsomely paid to make them by Microsoft, those who weren’t were unified in their derision of the platform. It is pay to play for Microsoft at this point and given the lack of apps that matter, even though they are paying large sums to many, the rest of the community isn’t playing ball.

 

 

For Microsoft to change their path the company needed to take quick decisive action. They needed to show partners that they would not unfairly compete with them, and they failed. They needed to show end users that the next version would make things better, the ‘Start’ menu in 8.1 simply throws the things users object to most back in their face. They needed to soothe app devs and entice them back but instead they stonewalled on revenue and made app approval needlessly harder.

All of these fairly basic fixes needed to happen months ago in order for those needing the results to see the changes in a timely manner. Microsoft did none of this and quite bluntly went farther in the wrong direction in every case. Instead of fixes we got a reorg that consolidated power in the hands of the most incompetent of them all Steve Ballmer. If he was fired months ago there was a small chance Microsoft would survive, today he has more control than before. Microsoft has failed.

 

 

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Yea.


Edited by Formfiller, 25 July 2013 - 02:42 PM.


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I'm probably not going to upgrade to Windows 8.1 immediately because I have Windows 8 running fine at the moment. One of the things I don't like about Windows 8.1 is the blatent SkyDrive integration everywhere and as of the latest public beta you can't uninstall this. I obviously won't configure it when I do upgrade to 8.1 but I think that it seems to be a step to perhaps a forced Skydrive integration in future versions of Windows.


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Whoa, once again Demerjian pulls no punches as he dismantles Microsoft's Windows 8(.1) strategy, performance, and future:
 
Microsoft drove the bus off the cliff, now it tries to speed up


Devastating. If only that were posted in full at NeoWin. The MetroTards and MicroZealots would be slitting their wrists.

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June 2012:
 

http://www.theverge....haitanya-sareen

 

Microsoft removed the Start button from Windows 8's Consumer Preview version earlier this year, generating a lot of discussion and mixed reaction over a user interface element that was first introduced in Windows over 15 years ago. In an interview with PC Pro, the company has revealed that telemetry data was a big part of the decision to scrap the Start button and traditional Start menu in Windows 8.

 

July 2013:
 

http://www.neowin.ne...face-in-testing

During his internal address, Ballmer stated that Windows is not selling well enough, which shouldn't come as a major surprise, as the company has blamed just about everything under the sun for the slower adoption of Windows 8

 

Other obvious talking points included the fact that Windows 8.1 was heavily shaped by user telemetry and was why Microsoft reintroduced the Start button back into Windows 8.

 


Edited by Formfiller, 25 July 2013 - 09:00 AM.


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It must be a particular kind of telemetry.

I mean, IF they had provided the option to use EITHER the Start Button (AND Menu) OR the NCI, they might have been able to count how many users actually preferred the one over the other, but since they forced everyone to use the NCI, I wonder WHAT THE HECK they registered through telemetry. :unsure:

 

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This just broke at the Drudge Report over the last few hours ... just a quick post since there was talk earlier of government spying in this thread.

 

Drudge Report

 

FEDS DEMAND WEB FIRMS TURN OVER PASSWORDS

 

http://www.drudgereport.com/

 

... at this time this is the main "headline" story at the Drudge Report and it may stay that way for several hours until something else starts to trend so the actual article link is below.

 

 

the actual article ...

 

http://news.cnet.com...ount-passwords/

 

Feds tell Web firms to turn over user account passwords

 

Secret demands mark escalation in Internet surveillance by the federal government through gaining access to user passwords, which are typically stored in encrypted form.

 

The U.S. government has demanded that major Internet companies divulge users' stored passwords, according to two industry sources familiar with these orders, which represent an escalation in surveillance techniques that has not previously been disclosed.

 

If the government is able to determine a person's password, which is typically stored in encrypted form, the credential could be used to log in to an account to peruse confidential correspondence or even impersonate the user. Obtaining it also would aid in deciphering encrypted devices in situations where passwords are reused.

 

"I've certainly seen them ask for passwords," said one Internet industry source who spoke on condition of anonymity. "We push back."

 

A second person who has worked at a large Silicon Valley company confirmed that it received legal requests from the federal government for stored passwords. Companies "really heavily scrutinize" these requests, the person said. "There's a lot of 'over my dead body.'"

 

Some of the government orders demand not only a user's password but also the encryption algorithm and the so-called salt, according to a person familiar with the requests. A salt is a random string of letters or numbers used to make it more difficult to reverse the encryption process and determine the original password. Other orders demand the secret question codes often associated with user accounts.

 

... more at the link


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It's meme time!

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

Spoiler

 

The "us" is to be intended as "US" ;).

 

Spoiler

 

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This just broke at the Drudge Report over the last few hours ... just a quick post since there was talk earlier of government spying in this thread.

 

Drudge Report

 

FEDS DEMAND WEB FIRMS TURN OVER PASSWORDS

 

http://www.drudgereport.com/

 

... at this time this is the main "headline" story at the Drudge Report and it may stay that way for several hours until something else starts to trend so the actual article link is below.

 

 

the actual article ...

 

http://news.cnet.com...ount-passwords/

 

Feds tell Web firms to turn over user account passwords

 

Secret demands mark escalation in Internet surveillance by the federal government through gaining access to user passwords, which are typically stored in encrypted form.

 

The U.S. government has demanded that major Internet companies divulge users' stored passwords, according to two industry sources familiar with these orders, which represent an escalation in surveillance techniques that has not previously been disclosed.

 

If the government is able to determine a person's password, which is typically stored in encrypted form, the credential could be used to log in to an account to peruse confidential correspondence or even impersonate the user. Obtaining it also would aid in deciphering encrypted devices in situations where passwords are reused.

 

"I've certainly seen them ask for passwords," said one Internet industry source who spoke on condition of anonymity. "We push back."

 

A second person who has worked at a large Silicon Valley company confirmed that it received legal requests from the federal government for stored passwords. Companies "really heavily scrutinize" these requests, the person said. "There's a lot of 'over my dead body.'"

 

Some of the government orders demand not only a user's password but also the encryption algorithm and the so-called salt, according to a person familiar with the requests. A salt is a random string of letters or numbers used to make it more difficult to reverse the encryption process and determine the original password. Other orders demand the secret question codes often associated with user accounts.

 

... more at the link

 

That's scary. Another reason to keep (and encrypt) your sensitive data locally rather than in the cloud.

 

Here's a related story:

 

 

Feds put heat on Web firms for master encryption keys

 

The U.S. government has attempted to obtain the master encryption keys that Internet companies use to shield millions of users' private Web communications from eavesdropping.

These demands for master encryption keys, which have not been disclosed previously, represent a technological escalation in the clandestine methods that the FBI and the National Security Agency employ when conducting electronic surveillance against Internet users.

 

Apple, Yahoo, AOL, Verizon, AT&T, Time Warner Cable, and Comcast declined to respond to queries about whether they would divulge encryption keys to government agencies.

 

"The requests are coming because the Internet is very rapidly changing to an encrypted model," a former Justice Department official said. "SSL has really impacted the capability of U.S. law enforcement. They're now going to the ultimate application layer provider."

 

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I have no Java. I am posting my personall feelings about spying on people in their homes. Spying on people went from drug sniffing dogs, to people breaking inside a persons home. How is this any differnt. You might not be a trheat but your children, or your family members, or favorite tycoon might be a threat. Look it, has already happen to me, using Yahoo. Somebody broke into my account, changed a background of my Facebook Yahoo page ( you know that page that Yahoo request for you to turn on, but you can never nver nver turn it off, because Yahoo will not let you anymore ). I know it was "Uncle Sam" because like Google Yahoo USA has gone dickless. I am very serious about this dickless yahoo problem. The new user page is purple, which of course mean poisin and has not meant royal for a long time, Among other meanings, the user interface is crap, they make you sign an agreement tht says you will never interact with whatever organization. What happen folks is that, they "Dickless G-bastards" are basically abusing various laws, because nobody is fighting back. Of course being that computers is a mans ( or least it was ) world. What they are doing is targeting men who about to retire ( men in their 50+ ) and immigrants ( racial targeting, racial biased, ). So now think about it. The reason why they want to gain access to users passwords is so they can view what the user has been doing, or storing privately. Think about some things you do not want anybody to see unless you trust them reasonable. If this was 1985 it would not matter. If this was 1995 it would not matter. If this was 2005 it would not matter. Because their are a bunch of retards, fools, morons, dumber then #$#@!@$@ idiots using facebook, myspace, twiter, freindster and these things, using it to share videos files etc. The goverment is going bats*** crazy, taken advantage of the law. Like recently a law was about to be passed that pretty much says ( their is no such thing as a young adult ) and it was going to be passed, but the president shot it down. They were about to turn the entire nation into the state of Florida and California combined. If this was 1955 that would have been a cool thing, but otherwise that is basically hell on earth. If they had passed that, it would have made 90% of all media illeagal, and give the nation to meatheads ( the jox, the people who do not graduate from highschool, the people who become a police officer because they failed to make the team, the Biffs of the world ). Because everybody believes in god and nobody is strong enough to be like Charles Bronson or Sonny Chiba and stop these dickless bastards at the source, they continue to dance on our privacies, making threats to us. Even places like this, they want to crawl around inside of, because unlike Yahoo, Myspace, facebook, and others these places are private and meant for private usage. Remember the whole internet law scandals back then? They managed to pass a law without the media noticing it ( where they can make requests from Yahoo, Myspace, facebook, etc ). Meanwhie morons on facebook are like yeeeeaaahhhh we get to share crap. That is the only reason why they are doing this. They are gender discriminating males, age discimintating of males, immigrant bias of race, creed, culture, and all against males. Take out the people looking foward to their SSI. Another law they tried to pass, is the anti-garage sale law. Like when we buy or sell things on the internet for example. They want to tax you. You already get charged a fee for using money and sale services and because more people are shipping for things, they figure hey stores are dead, nobody goes outside anymore. They want to collect all your information. Steal your private property try to get you to admit to things. try to throw you in jail rob you of your Social Secturity Deport you out of the nation ( because it is cheaper then sending a person to jail ). They think it is a big joke, and nobody is fighting for the privacy of the people. They just want a bunch of boob jobs, walking around with half finished labodimies, spending as much as they use the bathroom, and reproducing less so their will be less people to deal with. Or better yet marrying less, and reproducing more. They can't just say, stop making babies, stop having sex, stop using your benifits you have a right to. Look at this website you got Google running in the background, along with facebook. Practically got holes in this webpage as well.

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They were about to turn the entire nation into the state of Florida and California combined.

You mean old and rich people, nice chicks in bikini and decent weather also from Idaho to Michigan?   :w00t:

 

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No, i mean ................................................................................................................. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Florida went over a long overhual after the "Born again Christian movement". It was a vacation spot but became a retirment spot for elderly people. The people who are eyeing the law, in Florida made it basicaly impossible for you to have any privacy at all. If a tree falls in Florida everybody hears about it. Flordia is not a party state and has been for the very longest. The only people in Florida are oldies trying to find other oldies. It is really disguisting in Florida when it comes to that. ................................................................................................................. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... California which is practically on the boarder of Canada, Mexico, Pacific Islands, and Ussr have a strict international policy. Because of the wide vast amount of immigrants, who live in Florida, they have an idea "New World Order" mindset about law. Meaning you have laws where a person can go to jail for many things, in other states that are taken for granted. ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... A lot of people when they think of California, they think sex, prostitutes, gambling, movie stars, etc. That is not the case of the current situation of California at all. Think of it as Florida but with slightly younger people. In fact alot of yuppie hipsters ( many you can find roaming the big cities of the US ) comes from this area of the world. Because of the pro-non-heterosexual movement in California, as welll as the Silicon valley movement ( comprised of religious and warhawk???? types ), and racism between nations. .................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... I am not saying these are bad places, and you can't have any fun, When it comes to privacy in terms of computers and internet laws, among other things, they are to be considered blacklisted. .................................................................................................................. .................................................................................................................................................................................................................. I know their are other states, that is also on that list, but now more then ever thanks to the current trends and themes, their is basicallly barely and privacy. The only people who have any privacy are the ones who have no understanding of the term itself,

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 If a tree falls in Florida everybody hears about it. 

From pi§§ed-off ranting to Zen in three steps, it must be a world record! :w00t:

http://en.wikipedia....lls_in_a_forest

http://www.101zensto...ex.php?story=21

 

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Fiddling around with Xbox again ...

Report: MSFT to Release Xbox One Sans Kinect in 2014 ( Tom's Hardware 2013-07-24 )

Microsoft Shoots Down Rumors Of Kinect-Free Xbox One Bundle ( Kotaku 2013-07-24 )

The 1st article, about a Kinect-less Xbox model, is apparently still a rumor as reported in the 2nd article.

Microsoft may change course and allow Xbox One games to be self published ( NeoWin 2013-07-24 )

Microsoft confirms Xbox One game self publishing plans; details coming later ( NeoWin 2013-07-24 )

Microsoft Will Allow Indies to Self-Publish on Xbox One ( Tom's Hardware 2013-07-26 )

The rumor describing another easing of the walled-garden publishing aspect is now confirmed. Whoop-de-do. Dear Microsoft, just release two Xbox models. one cloudy restricted model for MetroTards, and a standalone classic for normal people.


News from the Competition ...

Ubuntu Edge crowd sourced campaign raises $5 million inside three days ( NeoWin 2013-07-25 )

Crowd source funding for a Linux smartphone totaling 6.6 million now. That's a lot but I don't see how they can expect the 32 million they desire in a month without a couple of bigtime investors jumping in. It looks like they are funding everything including factory time from the ground up.

Geeksphone announces Peak+ Firefox OS smartphone ( TechSpot 2013-07-25 )

Looks like it really is happening. This is in Spain currently and at 149 euros or approximately $200.

Asus Intros Portable 18.4" AIO Android PC ( Tom's Hardware 2013-07-25 )

I wouldn't really call this a PC, yet, it's a giant tablet to me, looks pretty slick though. Naturally it's an underpowered ARM chip, in fact the same one in the Surface RT if I'm not mistaken. Let's call it Android RT. :yes: No word on price but if it is in the $300 range then Surface RT is toast.

Walmart, HP Planning $99 Android Tablet Sale ( Tom's Hardware 2013-07-26 )

That price is NOT a typo. It says $99 which is the same as the clearance was for the doomed WebOS TouchPad. Not sure what's going on with HP these days because there cannot be any money in that!

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Magazine controveries ...

What Microsoft's Earnings Report Means for Small Businesses ( PC World 2013-07-22 )

Despite declining PC sales, adoption of Windows 8 is on pace with that of its predecessor. There has been some backlash over the dramatic redesign of Windows 8, and Microsofts attempt to convert the OS to a touch-based interface, but most of the major complaints are addressed with the Windows 8.1 update, which will be officially available later this year.[/i][/b]

 
I wasn't the only one that noticed that steaming pile of bullcrap. Here's a commenter ...
 

What are you Smoking? Win 8.1 Addresses nothing. Adoption on Pace with its Predecessor? You are Delusional. PC World needs make it clear that this is a paid Advertisement from Microsoft. IDG Creative Labs is a Marketing firm hired by Microsoft to Schill for them. THIS IS A SPONSORED ARTICLE .

 
Nailed it. And apparently the commenter was exactly right in every way. Next, here comes an editor of PC World ...
 

I disagree. Windows 8.1 won't please everyone, but it is a significant improvement over Windows 8, and Microsoft has addressed most of the biggest complaints and added a number of new features that businesses will welcome--especially IT admins.

The fact that sales of Windows 8 are on pace with Windows 7--or at least were up to a point--is not a secret, nor is it a PCWorld conspiracy.

[...]

Finally, the fact that this is a sponsored post is also not a secret, nor a PCWorld conspiracy. It is clearly labeled as such on the PCWorld home page, and the sponsors are prominently featured at the top of the post. "Sponsoring" a post, however, doesn't involve any editorial license or influence over the content, so the dots you appear to be trying to connect simply don't exist.

 
He's lying about everything but especially that last part. There is no mention that it is a sponsored post, NONE whatsoever. He refers to some earlier page that links to the sponsored post but I didn't come from there nor did probably anyone else. And there is nothing at the top of the page even now at this writing. Sneaky and corrupt media practices that Microsoft is capitalizing on. The commenter was exactly right!

Here's an article from earlier this year that addresses a similar situation at ZDNet. Use it as a starting point to jump to other stuff ...

Dubious Editorial Control in ZDNet ( TechRights.org 2013-03-02 )
 

AS WE STATED a couple of years ago, ZDNet is strongly suspected of having received money from Microsoft in exchange for editorial control that favours Vista 7, essentially corrupting ZDNet as a source of news (not that it ever published more than bias, flames, etc.) and we never received confirmation of this from ZDNet; they dodge the issue. I did ask them.

 

Here's three current articles at ZDNet that Microsoft clearly did NOT pay for ( :lol:) ...

Windows 8.1: Close, but no cigar ( SJVN ZDNet 2013-07-08 )

Did we all just witness Windows start to die? ( MBR ZDNet 2013-07-22 )

Windows isn't dying, it's just becoming irrelevant ( AKH ZDNet 2013-07-23 )

The comment sections in these are completely interchangeable with the only exception that there are extra haterz at the SJVN article because he is listed as covering Linux and Open Source topics and this does not sit well with brainwashed MicroZealots. How dare he report on that wacky alternate universe not controlled by Redmond? The nerve of him!

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My Windows 8.1 Preview. My advice? Stay far, far away. ( Dvorak PC Magazine 2013-07-23 )

In my opinion, this GUI is not healthy.

[...]

All in all, this is what I hear Microsoft saying: This as far as we are going to go to assuage any concerns over the Metro (or whatever we call it) interface. The desktop is out or will be soon. Get over yourself. We know what's right. Do as we say and shut up.


John Dvorak weighing in again, and as usual comes quite a flame war in the comments. ZDNet has lots of MicroZealots in general, many that attack Dvorak for not loving Microsoft enough even though he has been at this since the early 1980's when these fanboys were still in diapers playing with their actual Playskool toys and watching Sesame Street. There are also some obvious astroturfers as well. But nowadays we have lots of warriors for truth in there taking them on as I expected would be the case from Windows 8.1 Blew because it could only serve to anger real Windows users as it is the most arrogant insult they have yet perpetrated.


Ballmer states that Windows is not selling well enough, next gen Surface in testing ( NeoWin 2013-07-24 )

Ballmer: We built too many Surface RT tablets ( TechSpot 2013-07-26 )
 

On Microsofts campus today, Ballmer held a rally the troops type event where they typically go over the quarterly earnings report and attempt to boost/keep the good vibes flowing within the company.

During his internal address, Ballmer stated that Windows is not selling well enough, which shouldnt come as a major surprise, as the company has blamed just about everything under the sun for the slower adoption of Windows 8.


Told ya so. But instead of listening to Windows veterans for the past two years ( the current controversy, but for about seven years since Vista ), Microsoft was busy cherry picking their telemetry which was by definition already "cherry picked", or more precisely "sheeple picked", since the CEIP telemetry was disabled by anyone remotely concerned about privacy and security. What they had for data was completely useless.


Study shows IE10 to have better privacy protection than rivals ( NeoWin 2013-07-26 )

rotflmao.gif The only possible way that could have been funnier is if it started out with: "A Priest, a Minister and a Rabbi walk into a bar ...". :lol:


Microsoft celebrates Windows NT's 20th birthday ( NeoWin 2013-07-26 )

Quite an important day in the history of the PC. Naturally the Generation Xbox MetroTards don't quite know what to make of it as they stumble through useless comment after useless comment lest they say something that might shine the light away from Windows 8 and onto its much more competent predecessors. Ah children. Here's a boo-boo from one of them, so let's wait and see if any of the others there are smart enough to figure it out and correct him ...
 

You mean Windows *period* - it was Windows 3.0 that was the first non-dud version that actually sold well in retail. (My experience with Windows began with Windows/286 (AKA Windows 1.1) which was bundled with the 286-class Zenith desktops sold to the government under contract - in 1988.) Windows 3.1 could run on them (standard mode) - and those 286-class PCs that were soldiering on in 1990 saw Windows 3.1 that year. Windows NT 3.1 looked like Windows 3.1 by design; however, it was very much intended for workstations, as it didn't support IDE/ATAPI at all - SCSI, not ATAPI, was the drive interface du jour for early NT boxes.


:whistle: None yet.

EDIT: typo, and the editor bug adding linefeeds ahead of the first quote

Edited by CharlotteTheHarlot, 27 July 2013 - 06:57 AM.

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Let's say that "accuracy" is not particularly seen as an ESSENTIAL requisite by the good guys @nsslabs.
On the report overview:
https://www.nsslabs....lysis-privacy-0

....
 
Authors: Randy Abrams  Orlando Barrera Jayendra Pathak.....
Browser privacy is an issue on the front lines of the browser wars. This comparative report examines the privacy mechanisms built into the browsers of tested vendors, and it assesses their implications for user privacy.
....
 
Vendors:
Apple Google Microsoft Mozilla Opera

Too bad that in the actual report there is NO trace of Opera, let alone of Mr. Orlando Barrera:
 

2013 – Randy Abrams, Jayendra Pathak

Tested Vendors
Apple, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla

It's usually not a good idea to judge a book by it's cover, but still .... :unsure:
 
But let's see the actual content:
 

NSS Labs Findings

  • Default privacy settings vary significantly between browsers.
  • Private browsing modes do not eliminate tracking.
  • Do Not Track is currently ineffective as a privacy mechanism.

 
 

Do Not Track

Currently, the most-discussed browser privacy setting is Do Not Track. The reality of Do Not Track in the browser is that the default setting is a statement of vendor position on privacy. The technology today actually does nothing to protect privacy; however, if proposed legislation prevails and requires honest compliance with the Do Not Track header, IE 10 users will be far better protected by default than will the users of any other current browser.
Multiple studies have indicated that consumers desire control over whether or not they are tracked; yet IE is the only browser to ship with Do Not Track effectively enabled on installation.

 

Basically imagine that Philips (say) starts implementing in all it's domestic appliances a new additional protection against short circuits that depends on compatibility with the mains line (and that NO provider of electricity on Earth implements).

Panasonic (say) has not this additional protection circuit (as it is NOT required by current standards).

 

WHEN (and IF) the standard WILL BE changed AND the electricity provider WILL  provide compatible electricity/lines, THEN the Philips' thingies WILL HAVE additional protection when compared to Panasonic's.

 

NOW and UNTIL THEN, NO additional protection of ANY KIND is provided.

 

By that time, most probably, the products will be end of line/obsolete.

 

And BTW, I lied in the above example, it is not that the circuit is not already present in the Panasonic appliance, only, in order to save some electricity NOW, it is turned off and can be turned on by simply setting a little switch.  ;)

 

 

 

I have rarely seen a report as worthless as that one.

 

Among the other things, I am quite perplexed by the new, innovative definition of "honest compliance" in all my years I thought that you could put no qualification to "compliance", something is either compliant or it is not, and no one cares if such compliance is reached honestly, dishonestly, with good will or bad will, etc.) as long it is reached .

 

 

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I have rarely seen a report as worthless as that one.
 
Among the other things, I am quite perplexed by the new, innovative definition of "honest compliance" in all my years I thought that you could put no qualification to "compliance", something is either compliant or it is not, and no one cares if such compliance is reached honestly, dishonestly, with good will or bad will, etc.) as long it is reached .


Aw, you're being too scientific, diplomatic, and kind again. I like how one commenter at the NeoWin thread put it ...
 

NSS Labs = Microsoft sponsored BS


Naturally this doesn't go over too well :lol:

P.S. Jaclaz, have you noticed the editor bug that keeps adding an extra CRLF before the first quote tag each time you hit preview? You have to edit the post, preview it, rinse, repeat, and then check for it one last time and delete any extra line(s) right before you hit 'post'. There are other bugs to and they all occur right after you hit 'preview'. It seems to make a pass through the post it just displayed and applies a set of "corrections". Just wondering.

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