[jaclaz]

Maybe we are seeing the matter with the wrong perspective.

Windows XP and conversely Windows 7 (sorry MagicAndre1981, but Vista doesn't count) are/were SELFISH OS's.
Windows 8 is a PLURAL OS.

Let's see what Dell has to say about their ST2220L 21.5" LCD screen priced at a nifty US$129.99:
http://accessories.u...19&sku=320-1629

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Take your multimedia viewing experience to another level with the ST2220L full HD monitor with LED. This 21.5" widescreen display is an optimum choice for cinematic quality and makes watching movies, playing games and photo editing an amazing experience.

And what about the - I presume corresponding - ST2220T (touch screen) 21.5" LCD screen priced at a mere US$329.99:
http://accessories.u...550055-1727683-

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The new DellTM ST2220T multi-touch monitor will change the way you look at, and interact with life. Featuring an innovative 21.5" multi-touch screen with IPS technology, and multiple tilt angles, you, your friends and family will enjoy a stunning experience in a sleek design.

For only 200 bucks more, you can include your friends and family in the FUN.

BUT still.... .... please note how all the activities described by the good Dell guys are NOT IN ANY WAY connected with WORK.

Now I find this appropriate, with the world crisis, a lot of families (and some of their friends) will have MUCH more time to stay at home and entertain themselves with Windows 8 and touch screens, whilst the very few with still a job will continue working with the antiquated, but still good enough XP's and 7's in their gloomy, lonely cubicles.....


And, just to show to some miscreants how my crystall ball (from time to time) is accurate let me present you two brand new apps for Windows 8:
http://www.windows8a...ily/simon-says/
http://www.windows8a...-trivia/simon8/
foreseen evolution from:
http://www.windows8a...mes/simon-said/
(please do take some time to appreciate the essential pureness and modernity of the lines and the new Bauhaus look)


To be fair, some "serious" apps are also coming out, example:
http://www.windows8a...tware-com-2011/

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Imagine how easy it is to use Taxsoftware.com on the Windows 8 Tablet.

jaclaz

[Tripredacus]

jaclaz, on 27 September 2012 - 06:27 AM, said:

To be fair, some "serious" apps are also coming out, example:
http://www.windows8a...tware-com-2011/

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Imagine how easy it is to use Taxsoftware.com on the Windows 8 Tablet.

I can't wait to use the hottest selling OS of 2013 to do my taxes from 2011!

[Joseph_sw]

I wonder when will messages saying "Do NOT Share your Touch-Screen" will appears as health related warnings.
I mean i've seen some man sneezing at his iPad, you know mucus and all ...

Has there any scientifc study about touch-screen as contagious disease vectors?

[Tripredacus]

jaclaz, on 26 September 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

http://bit.ly/UY9kBO



jaclaz

I'm getting "Bing points" every time I click on that link.

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

More Windows 8 fluff articles appearing daily.

Bad Piggies is coming soon to Windows Phone and Windows 8 ( NeoWin 2012-09-27 )

Shocker: Bill Gates says Windows 8 is "a big deal" ( NeoWin 2012-09-27 )

Bill Gates gives Windows 8 his stamp of approval ( TechSpot 2012-09-28 )

Bill Gates Says Windows 8 is ''Very Exciting'' ( Tom's Hardware 2012-09-28 )

Angry Birds sequel and a half-hearted endorsement from billg, Well I'm sold. Not!


Meanwhile, the creator of Minecraft takes some more shots at it ...

Notch slams Windows 8 yet again, won't certify Minecraft ( NeoWin 2012-09-27 )

Minecraft creator 'Notch' is the latest to speak out against Windows 8 ( TechSpot 2012-09-28 )

Notch Won't Certify Minecraft for Windows 8 ( Tom's Hardware 2012-09-28 )

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Markus Persson ... Got an email from microsoft, wanting to help "certify" minecraft for win 8. I told them to stop trying to ruin the pc as an open platform. --- Twitter: @notch

Markus Persson ... I'd rather have minecraft not run on win 8 at all than to play along. Maybe we can convince a few people not to switch to win 8 that way.. --- Twitter: @notch

Hehe Now some guy at Fanboy Central posts this story about a Microsoftie that supposedly debunked his claims ...

Take that: Rafael Rivera easily certifies Minecraft for Windows 8 ( NeoWin 2012-09-28 )

... but unfortunately they entirely miss the point at what "Notch" was actually saying. Big surprise. He is describing the devoulution of Windows into a walled garden, not that they are there yet. The fanboys will have none of it though: Our beloved Microsoft would never do such a thing! And if they did it would be great! That pretty much sums it up. One commenter at that last link, Leo, does a fine job trying to penetrate the skulls of the pod people, but there is really no hope. Civil War is coming.


From the You have got to be kidding me department ...

Nokia Lumia 820 & 920 priced in Europe, coming in November ( NeoWin 2012-09-27 )

Nokia prices Lumia 920 higher than Samsung's Galaxy S III ( TechSpot 2012-09-27 )

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Nokia has priced their upcoming Lumia 920 smartphone higher than Samsung’s Galaxy S III, a move that has analysts wondering how the Finnish phone maker plans on justifying the premium. In some markets, Nokia’s flagship phone will sell for 25 percent more than the S III.

Italy ...
Lumia 920 :: €599 (USA $771)
Lumia 820 :: €499 (USA $643)
Samsung Galaxy S III :: €530

Germany ...
Lumia 920 :: €649 (USA $836)
Lumia 820 :: €499 (USA $643)
Samsung Galaxy S III :: €530

Russia ...
Lumia 920 :: 24,990 rubles (USA $801)
Lumia 820 :: 19,990 rubles (USA $640)

UK ... Nokia will not be releasing pricing!

USA estimated prices ...
Lumia 920 :: $699
Lumia 820 :: $599

Boy they are sure being optimistic. Reminder photos of the Nokia Lumia 820 and 920 and some of the competition ...

Spoiler

EDIT: added a bunch more links

This post has been edited by CharlotteTheHarlot: 29 September 2012 - 02:28 AM

[xpclient]

Here's a revelation into the evil, wrong, ruthless, directionless mind of Steven Sinofsky which confirms that in the future the desktop is going to go away: http://www.itwriting...ws-and-net.html As Bill Gates once said, no one can tell Steven what to do so essentially Microsoft is at his mercy, not Ballmer's. Ballmer just wants to be part of the success as CEO, while not taking any leadership stance as this article confirmed: http://www.fastcodes...design-strategy Now why would anyone want to kill the largest, most prevalent, most successful, most dominant PC ecosystem for greedy mobile ambitions is beyond me. Does he think by killing "legacy" desktop, Msft can get bigger than Apple once again? Such a person can't have the best interests of users at heart.Only reason for killing desktop might be "developers, developers, developers...". The Windows desktop is not "hot" any more like iOS is for developers.That and a Steve Jobs-like capitalist mentality to rule the world and become the largest company again, at the cost of putting user distress to something of secondary importance.

This post has been edited by xpclient: 28 September 2012 - 06:54 AM

[Win2k3EE]

Well, I don't care anymore. I'll stick to Windows 7 as long as I can. When I won't be able to check mail and browse forums 'cause I'll need Windows 999 or Windows Schmuck or whatever they will call it, I'll switch to BSD.

[jaclaz]

xpclient, on 28 September 2012 - 06:35 AM, said:

Here's a revelation into the evil, wrong, ruthless, directionless mind of Steven Sinofsky which confirms that in the future the desktop is going to go away: http://www.itwriting...ws-and-net.html

Well, if Sinofsky contributed and contributes to the killing of .Net and Silverlight he is not as evil and senseless as he seems.

jaclaz

[MagicAndre1981]

he is

.Net/C# is a fine development platform.

[jaclaz]

MagicAndre1981, on 28 September 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

he is

.Net/C# is a fine development platform.

Most probably it is (as development platform) but the effect I can see at user level is (of course IMHO) a regression in quality of apps.
Of course everyone has his/her opinion, there are people thinking that Visual Basic is better than C#:
http://www.simple-ta...-better-than-c/

Now, you may think that his is off-topic , but as a matter of fact, you would be wrong :
in the above page there is something that can be well applied to the fanboys approach to the new stupid NCI :

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Someone commented on my original (much shorter) blog about this:

"In a short amount of time you'll type those semi-colons without thinking about it (I even type them when programming in visual basic)."

That’s like saying that you’ll soon get used to not having any matches to light your fire, and you’ll even start rubbing sticks together to start a fire when you finally manage to buy a box!

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 28 September 2012 - 12:26 PM

[CoffeeFiend]

jaclaz, on 28 September 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

the effect I can see at user level is (of course IMHO) a regression in quality of apps

Perhaps because it somewhat lowers the barrier to entry (we've all seen the results of "classic" VB) but on the other hand it lets you create better and more advanced things faster too. Given skilled programmers, on the same budget and time frame, it far improves the quality IMHO. And given infinite resources, then it's mainly a matter of programming-related skills (and things like understanding the problem domain better, etc)

Either ways, as much of a C# fanboy as I am (it's my fav language for Windows development by far), if Windows continues in the same direction as it did with Win8 then Windows is dead to me, and I'll move on to a "lesser" language (and toolchain/IDE/...) but on an OS that's not absurdly nonsensical (that means either Objective C or C++/Qt and OS X)

As for Windows Phone pricing, it's just really funny. It didn't stand a chance at half that price anyway.

[JorgeA]

CharlotteTheHarlot, on 28 September 2012 - 01:19 AM, said:

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Nokia has priced their upcoming Lumia 920 smartphone higher than Samsung’s Galaxy S III, a move that has analysts wondering how the Finnish phone maker plans on justifying the premium. In some markets, Nokia’s flagship phone will sell for 25 percent more than the S III.

[font="Courier New"][color="#8B0000"]Italy ...
Lumia 920 :: €599 (USA $771)
Lumia 820 :: €499 (USA $643)
Samsung Galaxy S III :: €530
[etc.]

Unfreakingbelievable!!

Never mind that these Windows 8 phones are considerably more expensive than their established competitors (yeah, Sinofsky's a visionary genius, I know). I just can't see myself walking around town with a $700 device in my pocket that cost more than any computer I've bought in this millennium, and which would be so easy to lose at a restaurant table or to a skilled pickpocket. Can I tether it to my belt? But I'd still be running the risk of dropping it or having it crushed by stepping or sitting on it. No way, I don't have money to burn.

--JorgeA

This post has been edited by JorgeA: 28 September 2012 - 03:29 PM

[JorgeA]

Paul Thurrott discusses Microsoft's plans to transition from a sales to a feudal rent model for their software:

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Microsoft’s new naming scheme is actually based, I think, on the company’s move to online services, where products such as Windows Intune and Office 365 have always come sans version numbering because it’s Microsoft, not you, that needs to manage these services behind the scenes. The organizations that adopt these services know that they’ll be updated with both new features and bug fixes over time, and that they’ll be moved forward to these new “versions” automatically as part of an ongoing subscription.

And that’s the crux of what’s happening here. With Office 2013, yes, Microsoft will sell you traditional versions of the software, just as it will sell you traditional, on-premises versions of Exchange 2013. But what Microsoft really wants to sell you is the subscription and services-based versions of these products. And in such cases, version numbers suddenly are a lot less meaningful. Over time, maybe the versions with version numbers just . . . disappear.

So, what happens when a new feature or bug fix ends up breaking something, or making things worse? Without knowledge of an impending update or the choice to postpone or decline it, all users are saddled with the problem for as long as MS takes to address it. No longer can you or I adopt the strategy of waiting for reports on the update's effects from others who have installed it.

--JorgeA

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

Since Charlie Chaplin, Gecko lizards and common fruit were already spoken for ...

Windows 8 digital graffiti artists wanted by Microsoft ( NeoWin 2012-09-28 )

Nothing sadder than Redmond bureaucrats paying a firm to portray them as Seattle hipsters. Or in this case gang bangers marking up the walls of buildings. To be sure, this may be a step or two below gang colors. I just can't see crips and bloods spray painting sesame street or playskool colored blocks!

JPEG 1.9 MB ... Graffiti_bg.jpg

But what I'm still wondering about after having clicked around for answers to no avail, is this text at the Microsoft Advertising site ...

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Breaking boundaries – it’s what urban mural artists do daily. That’s why we invited a few of the best to turn our vision of digital on its head with the tools of their trade: spray paint, the canvas of the streets, and sheer imagination. The result? A jaw-dropping visual exploration of creativity and connection. When it comes to digital advertising, there are no limits. Brands create the message, we tag the world.

Why break boundaries in this way? With the advent of Windows 8, Microsoft introduces a new advertising canvas. We are kicking the old way of digital advertising to the curb with something fresh, modern, and revolutionary. And we are looking for digital graffiti artists.

Yep, that first paragraph is nothing but a steaming pile of advertising pooh written by a team of overpaid underachievers. But in that last sentence are they tipping their hand? The website really says nothing at all which is pretty much par for the course from Microsoft. So we are left to infer a meaning. Could this be the start of product placement in the kindergarten color squares of Windows 8 and Metro on the desktops of hundreds of millions of unsuspecting users around the world?

Any guesses?

[jaclaz]

CoffeeFiend, on 28 September 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

Perhaps because it somewhat lowers the barrier to entry (we've all seen the results of "classic" VB) but on the other hand it lets you create better and more advanced things faster too. Given skilled programmers, on the same budget and time frame, it far improves the quality IMHO. And given infinite resources, then it's mainly a matter of programming-related skills (and things like understanding the problem domain better, etc)

Yes, most probably that's the perverted effect.

@Charlotte the Harlot
You might want to appreciate how the good MS designers have made things easier for the street artists: they can bring with them just 4 (5 including the one for the border) colours, so they can run faster!

And Apple is anyway ahead :

Spoiler

Only for historical reasons (and OT ):

Spoiler

jaclaz

[JorgeA]

Joseph_sw, on 27 September 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

I wonder when will messages saying "Do NOT Share your Touch-Screen" will appears as health related warnings.
I mean i've seen some man sneezing at his iPad, you know mucus and all ...

Has there any scientifc study about touch-screen as contagious disease vectors?

There probably have been studies about this, but for a potent demonstration of the dangers, see the movie "Contagion."

--JorgeA

[JorgeA]

CharlotteTheHarlot, on 29 September 2012 - 03:40 AM, said:

Quote

Breaking boundaries – it’s what urban mural artists do daily. That’s why we invited a few of the best to turn our vision of digital on its head with the tools of their trade: spray paint, the canvas of the streets, and sheer imagination. The result? A jaw-dropping visual exploration of creativity and connection. When it comes to digital advertising, there are no limits. Brands create the message, we tag the world.

Why break boundaries in this way? With the advent of Windows 8, Microsoft introduces a new advertising canvas. We are kicking the old way of digital advertising to the curb with something fresh, modern, and revolutionary. And we are looking for digital graffiti artists.

Yep, that first paragraph is nothing but a steaming pile of advertising pooh written by a team of overpaid underachievers. But in that last sentence are they tipping their hand? The website really says nothing at all which is pretty much par for the course from Microsoft. So we are left to infer a meaning. Could this be the start of product placement in the kindergarten color squares of Windows 8 and Metro on the desktops of hundreds of millions of unsuspecting users around the world?

Any guesses?

If they start putting live ads on the Metro Start Screen, I would hope that that would be the final nail in the coffin for Windows 8.

Although I do note that a recent Microsoft.com Panel survey tested respondents' reactions to having ads on the Xbox home screen (or whatever they call it). Dunno what the results were, but I sure would have given the thumbs-down to that idea.

Finally, in line with your speculation, see the last paragraph in the Neowin post that you linked to:

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In related news, Microsoft Advertising has also launched the final version of the Microsoft Advertising SDK for Windows 8. This tool will allow Windows 8 app creators to place ads inside their apps.

I can just picture working hard at the computer to write down a sudden flash of insight, only to have my flow interrupted and the insight gone POOF by some ad dancing and blinking across my screen.

--JorgeA

[Win2k3EE]

Yep! Advertising is the next step. They will call it Windows Shopping v9.0

P.S. This post is an irony - so treat it as such.

[JorgeA]

Win2k3EE, on 30 September 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

Yep! Advertising is the next step. They will call it Windows Shopping v9.0

P.S. This post is an irony - so treat it as such.

LOL

--JorgeA

[MagicAndre1981]

Win8 sky rocked to 0.30% marketig share

 Win7_MarketShare.png (51.61K)
Number of downloads: 8

http://netmarketshar...=10&qpcustomd=0