[JorgeA]

Formfiller, on 09 February 2013 - 03:39 AM, said:

CharlotteTheHarlot, on 09 February 2013 - 02:17 AM, said:

here will be much entertainment value to be had from a major Microsoft fail with Windows 8 and Metro and other possible scenarios. Watch their heads explode if Microsoft restores the start menu and desktop to Windows 7 appearance and functionality! Or when Ballmer gets his pink slip. Or if Blackberry beats WP8. Lots of pain in the future for these folks.

I would love to see these little rascals having a meltdown but I wouldn't count on this. They are the prototypical "Oceania was never at war with.." drones. Some of them will be confused at first, but I am sure that if MS really will paddle back, they will change tune within the minute:

"WHAT?! You're still using the metro screen? Stop living in the past, the iPad wannabe GUI is history. They have improved the start menu in Windows 9 and you id*** are still lumbing around with this Fail8 toy-touch interface? Get with the times!"

You beat me to one of the few comments I could have added to Charlotte's analysis. Some of these people, if Microsoft turned 180 degrees I wouldn't be surprised to see them turn right along with it and continue as if things had never been any different.

Your allusion to 1984 is very apt. And in other ways, too: living and working on these mobile Web terminals with their heads in the Cloud, everything they do and every file they save will be tracked, monitored, and analyzed "for your convenience and benefit."

--JorgeA

[JorgeA]

jaclaz, on 09 February 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

ciHnoN, on 08 February 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

I rather wash cars than making an "app" for your LOCKED WALLED PRISON GARDEN.

Please consider how cars will soon be deemed as "legacy vehicles" by the journalists and - according to them - be in a short time replaced by (touch controlled ) flying saucers , you might want to start a career with a longer expected lifetime .

The only remaining issue (in what the visionary expect soon) is of course flying elephants, a misknown evolutional phenomenon that hasn't yet affected mobility, but that might in the near future (if Dumbo was born - clearly out of a nuclear experiment induced genetic mutation - in 1941, imagine, even with a rather flat trend, how many of them will be born in the meantime ) .

Till now, and in real world:

Quote

As I glanced up in the sky
A bird dropped something from ahigh.
As I wiped it from my eye.
I thanked the Lord elephants don't fly.

--JorgeA

[JorgeA]

TELVM, on 09 February 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

I think this point can't be stressed enough:

CharlotteTheHarlot, on 09 February 2013 - 02:17 AM, said:

... trying to merge the three different obvious operating systems into one, while falsely describing it as a convenience for the user when it is really only a convenience for Microsoft, is beyond laughable, it is evil. This is the most cynical thing they could have done and it must fail for the good of everybody.

+1 to that! (+100, if I could "vote early and often" )

--JorgeA

[jaclaz]

To be fair , the good MS guys do provide Server Core option.

The way they word it in this article:
http://technet.micro...y/dd184075.aspx
however clearly shows how the authors of the article have not fully digested the meaning of the acronym GUI (which means Graphical User Interface), but are also very young, or dumb, or both :

Quote

The Server Core GUI

When you finish installing Server Core on a system and log on for the first time, you're in for a bit of a surprise. Figure 1-2 shows the Server Core user interface after first logon.



Figure 1-2 Server Core user interface

There's no desktop! That is, there is no Windows Explorer shell, with its Start menu, Taskbar, and the other features you may be used to seeing. All you have is a command prompt, which means that you have to do most of the work of configuring a Server Core installation either by typing commands one at a time, which is slow, or by using scripts and batch files, which can help you speed up and simplify your configuration tasks by automating them.

Please note the evident surprise that they presume to convey to the reader!

Quote

There is no desktop!

I mean, WOW.

You will need to type commands one at the time, which is slow.
Or use scripts and batch files (which can help you speed up and simplify your configuration tasks by automating them).

WOW.

You have to consider that a Server version of the OS has not as intended target housewives (with no offence whatever intended to housewives) from Peoria (say), the intended target is IT managers/Administrators (which evidently in MS view were hit by the same dumbifying genetic mutation that affected "end users").

If you scroll a little down, you will learn how Server Core has NOT .NET (which is a good thing BTW), but this means that you also don't have Powershell (as it is senselessly dependent on .Net) so that you have something that should be mainly managed by scripts which misses latest iteration of MS script engine/processor.

And, you are further warned that:

Quote

Only native code—code written using Windows application programming interfaces (APIs)—can run on Server Core. In summary, any GUI applications that depend on either the .NET Framework or on the Explorer.exe shell won't run on Server Core.

Again, WOW.

For NO apparent reason:

Spoiler

Thank you, Capatain.

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 09 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

[JorgeA]

Another danger of living and working in the Cloud (where the Microsoft Surface would nudge users):

Innocent Megaupload user asks court to order his data returned

So, if the government suspects that the cloud server where you've put your stuff also contains illegal or copyrighted material put there by somebody else, they can seize the server and deny you access to your own stuff.

You can't possibly know what other people are going to upload to the same service you're using. This really should make anybody think twice before making the move to the Cloud.

Government: "Innocent" Megaupload user uploaded pirated music

Quote

In a Tuesday legal brief first covered by TorrentFreak, the government argued that Goodwin should prove that he owns the files before the court considers whether he should get them back. The feds also suggest that Goodwin might not own all the files he uploaded to the site—some of them were pirated copies of mainstream music.

Dumb question: if I no longer have access to my files, how can I prove that I own them?

Quote

But EFF's Julie Samuels argues that the government's tactics should frighten anyone who uses cloud computing services. Not only did the raid deprive Goodwin of his data, she said, but the government is now apparently rummaging through Goodwin's files looking for information to discredit him.

Quote

"The government's approach should terrify any user or provider of cloud computer services," Samuels told Ars by e-mail. "The government apparently searched through the data it seized for one purpose, in order to use it against someone who was hurt by its actions but who is plainly not the target of any criminal investigation, much less the one against Megaupload."

Samuels told us that the government's response to Goodwin's petition demonstrates "that if users try to get their property back, the government won't hesitate to comb through it to try to find an argument to use against them."

Quote

The government's position, she said, would impose a "virtually insurmountable burden" on innocent users seeking to get their files back by "asking the court to do a slow-walking, multi-step process that takes place in a faraway court. Most third parties are not in a position to attend even one court appearance, much less the multiple ones the government envisions."

There is no safer alternative than to keep your own stuff on your own storage media, located in a place controlled by you. Which is why 64GB Surface tablets just don't cut it.

--JorgeA

[jaclaz]

JorgeA, on 09 February 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

Dumb question: if I no longer have access to my files, how can I prove that I own them?

You produce the CoP (Certificate of Property ) that was given to you when you actually paid for your files or - in case of self-produced files - the SoS (Statement of Selfproducing) which is a simple affidavit with the name of the file, the license number of the software you used to produce that (if Commercial) the CoA number of your OS (if Microsoft) and the MD5 of the file.
You simply sign it (with two witnesses) and then send it to yourself via officially authorized Post/Mail Service. (to have certainty of the date, attaching a photo of yourself holding the affidavit and a newspaper is entirely optional, but recommended)

If your warez pusher legitimate software provider did not give you the CoP at the time of the purchase or you subsequently lost it (or it was stolen from your home by little green men or other malicious beings) , you can produce a RoLoSCoP (Replacement of Lost or Stolen Certificate of Property) very similar to the SoS, and following the same procedure.

The difference is only that the Government has the right to shout "Doubt it!" when you produce a RoLoSCoP, in which case you need to bring in three witnesses (and your mom doesn't count).

We call this "progress" and "simplification of bureaucracy".

You ask silly questions....

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 09 February 2013 - 12:55 PM

[JorgeA]

jaclaz, on 09 February 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

We call this "progress" and "simplification of bureaucracy".

You ask silly questions....

ROFL

There's another name for the convoluted procedure that you describe: "user convenience." Ah yes, everybody sign up for the convenience of the cloud!!

--JorgeA

This post has been edited by JorgeA: 09 February 2013 - 06:14 PM

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

JorgeA, on 09 February 2013 - 10:19 AM, said:

CharlotteTheHarlot, on 09 February 2013 - 02:27 AM, said:

JorgeA, on 09 February 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

Hope you made it through the storm OK. Around here, everything outside is covered in white, but we're going to miss the worst of it, it looks like.

As I type this, it has been snowing for 13 hours and I just measured 12" of snow. According to the latest we are in for another 8 hours and should hit close to 20". The wind is now just kicking up and that is what usually causes falling trees and blackouts. I am hoping we get lucky but I am realistic and will assume power loss at any moment. But thanks for the concern!

How much snow did you get? I'm just above NYC and one snow band away from the worst of it ( to the East in Conn and Boston ).

Our forecasts (Philly suburbs) were ranging from 3" to 10" depending on who you listened to and when. We ended up getting just over 4" of a dry, powdery snow. But now the wind is blowing hard, so we're putting off shoveling 'til that dies down.

Without meaning to jinx it, it sounds like your power has held up so far.

Well we got lucky too, but not as lucky as you! It stopped snowing a couple hours after I wrote that, total between 14" ( here ) and 16" ( airport ). The wind blew the stuff around a lot so some people think it was much more than it was. Never thought I would be thankful for only ~15" of snow! Still caused us about 6 hours of shoveling but no power loss

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

JorgeA, on 09 February 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

Another danger of living and working in the Cloud (where the Microsoft Surface would nudge users):

Innocent Megaupload user asks court to order his data returned

So, if the government suspects that the cloud server where you've put your stuff also contains illegal or copyrighted material put there by somebody else, they can seize the server and deny you access to your own stuff.

You can't possibly know what other people are going to upload to the same service you're using. This really should make anybody think twice before making the move to the Cloud.

Government: "Innocent" Megaupload user uploaded pirated music

Quote

In a Tuesday legal brief first covered by TorrentFreak, the government argued that Goodwin should prove that he owns the files before the court considers whether he should get them back. The feds also suggest that Goodwin might not own all the files he uploaded to the site—some of them were pirated copies of mainstream music.

Dumb question: if I no longer have access to my files, how can I prove that I own them?

Quote

But EFF's Julie Samuels argues that the government's tactics should frighten anyone who uses cloud computing services. Not only did the raid deprive Goodwin of his data, she said, but the government is now apparently rummaging through Goodwin's files looking for information to discredit him.

Quote

"The government's approach should terrify any user or provider of cloud computer services," Samuels told Ars by e-mail. "The government apparently searched through the data it seized for one purpose, in order to use it against someone who was hurt by its actions but who is plainly not the target of any criminal investigation, much less the one against Megaupload."

Samuels told us that the government's response to Goodwin's petition demonstrates "that if users try to get their property back, the government won't hesitate to comb through it to try to find an argument to use against them."

Quote

The government's position, she said, would impose a "virtually insurmountable burden" on innocent users seeking to get their files back by "asking the court to do a slow-walking, multi-step process that takes place in a faraway court. Most third parties are not in a position to attend even one court appearance, much less the multiple ones the government envisions."

There is no safer alternative than to keep your own stuff on your own storage media, located in a place controlled by you. Which is why 64GB Surface tablets just don't cut it.

Fabulous post

People better take note of this stuff, I don't know how you can make it any clearer really. Mis-identified pictures disappearing from Skydrive, suspended accounts, the whole Mega fiasco with countless unrelated sites suddenly locking down access just to be sure. There soon will be no private property, and peer-to-peer communication if allowed will be monitored like a visit to a convict in prison.

The cloud is a proxy for traditional server overlords. Your position in that age-old client-server relationship has always been obedience and submission, with a side-order of begging the admin or sysop for favorable treatment. I for one do not welcome our new ( or old ) overlords.

[vinifera]

p2p will survive in form of magnet or simmiliar
some torrent hosts have switched to it as apparently magnet doesn't show IP's unlike torrent or gnutella type

as for cloud storage privacy, forget it, it was doomed the minute it was made up

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

Blue, Blue Everywhere ...

Is Microsoft making yet another careless mistake reminiscent of the Metro naming fiasco and the missing EU Windows 7 browser ballot? I think so. First, notice the numerous "Blue" stories, here are just a few ...

• Windows Blue may reach beyond Windows, could be a noteworthy upgrade for Microsoft ( NeoWin 2013-02-07 )
  
• Microsoft needs to keep visible under waves of Blue ... Analysis: New codename, new everything, and not just Windows.... ( UK Register 2013-02-09 )
  
• Big Windows updates may ship this summer – and every summer ... Microsoft's 'Blue' could do away with major releases ( UK Register 2013-02-09 )
  
• Microsoft 'Blue' to encompass Windows 8, Phone, Services and RT ( TechSpot 2013-02-07 )

... A couple of Register commenters have noticed something I did as well. Lets step through this in order ...

<A> We've known all about their cloud services "Azure" since about 3 years now, Wikipedia: Windows Azure ( 2010-02-01 ).

<B> Then, almost exactly one year ago we had the new Windows Logo Microsoft Unveils a Brand New Windows Logo ( 2012-02-18 ) where they sacked the 4-color flag in favor of an IBM-like light blue last seen in Windows 1.0.

Spoiler

<C> Then we heard of Windows "Blue" a month after Windows 8 launch: Windows Blue is Microsoft's future low-cost OS with yearly updates ( 2012-11-28 ).

Now let's review what the color "Azure" actually is. Wikipedia: Azure (color)

Spoiler

Obviously: Azure == Blue ( color ) == Cloud Services == Windows "Blue" and other application Updates

So it should be pretty simple now to disregard as propaganda the Windows Update called "Blue" and instead associate it with Cloud instead. Perhaps finally the long suspected pushing of subscription models into all their products, in fact I'd say it is patently obvious this is the direction. First they offer both Office Desktop and Office 364, then phase out the workstation software as the company suicide proceeds. Then, take next product, rinse repeat, continue until all products are subscription and all normal users hate their guts. ( Ironically with the crazy pace of Windows releases at almost every 3 years since Win3x, you might say we already have a subscription model, just divide the price by 3 to see what your annual bill already is. The same exact thing can be said for Office obviously in the identical time frame. )

However, this isn't the mistake I was thinking about, though indeed the subscription thing is a mistake. No, the mistake ( also noticed by at least one Register commenter ) is the 3 year ongoing evolution to all things "Blue". IBM owns everything blue, at least in spirit but more likely in copyright as well. Big Blue is IBM, so perhaps Little Blue is Microsoft? The mistake is actually two-fold ... (1) another possible Metro-like trademark infringement, and (2) the obvious bad idea of opening up themselves to all manner of parody - BSOD ( blue screen of death ), Singing the Blues, and even the Titanic sinking in a Blue Ocean, "Code Blue". Okay, I'll start ...



EDIT: typos, someone suggested "Code Blue" ( but I lost the reference to credit ), updated image URLs, and again

This post has been edited by CharlotteTheHarlot: 06 May 2013 - 07:15 PM

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

Someone's excited. Can you guess who ...

• Surface Pro 128 GB Immediately Sells Out. Microsoft confirms that 128 GB Surface Pros are already out of stock (Thurrott 2013-02-09 )
  
• 128 GB Surface Pro already sold out on US Microsoft Store site (NeoWin 2013-02-09 )
  
• Microsoft working to 'replenish supplies' of 128 GB Surface Pro (NeoWin 2013-02-09 )
  
• Microsoft's US Store website now sold out of the 64 GB Surface Pro [Update: They're back] (NeoWin 2013-02-09 )
  
• Lines form around the US for the Surface Pro launch (NeoWin 2013-02-09 )

Actually some of the commenters at NeoWin say they called around and found out some stores like Best Buy only had a single unit in stock of each size ( ADDED: read the comments at Thurrott, I almost feel sorry for him ). That is exactly how you can manufacture a success story - limit initial shipments to ensure an immediate sellout. Then replenish the stock and say they are trying to meet demand! It's a no lose scenario. Similar tricks occur in politics. So in reality, release statistics or it didn't happen.

If we ever find out the actual numbers then they probably sold some units finally. If not ( remember that Surface RT still hasn't been released, so assume major fail ) then it's dead.

This post can be linked backed to later if the truth ever emerges.

This post has been edited by CharlotteTheHarlot: 10 February 2013 - 12:24 AM

[JorgeA]

CharlotteTheHarlot, on 09 February 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

Now let's review what the color "Azure" actually is. Wikipedia: Azure (color)

Spoiler

Obviously: Azure == Blue ( color ) == Cloud Services == Windows "Blue" and other application Updates

Great deductive work, Sherlock!(*) I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that you're right. Someone should pass the theory over to Mary Jo Foley or other Microsoft watchers, and see if it makes sense to them, or jibes with what they know.

As far as MSFT emulating IBM, at this point I wouldn't mind terribly if they shifted their focus to obscure enterprise services and sold their current business to somebody who cares to continue it.

But it WOULD be delicious if they got slapped with a suit for the "Blue" thing. Legend has it that, way back when, IBM dropped the ball on licensing DOS, figuring that the real money was in the hardware; so this would be a kind of payback.

--JorgeA

EDIT: (*) Meant as a compliment!!!

This post has been edited by JorgeA: 10 February 2013 - 01:13 AM

[Formfiller]

I admit it, I don't quite "get" Paul Thurrott.

He makes his money primarily with Windows enthusiasts and Windows IT pros. If Microsoft's plan is to cater primarily to the Angry Birdies, this group of customers will die out. And the Angry Bird people sure won't buy Thurrott's books about Windows' internals, nor go to his websites. So why is he *so* emotionally invested in killing traditional Windows? Isn't that kinda self-defeating?

I don't think it's mere "Microsoft bribes". He almost orgasms in this article about the Surface:

http://winsupersite....ately-sells-out

This post has been edited by Formfiller: 10 February 2013 - 06:12 AM

[TheBigBang]

CharlotteTheHarlot, on 09 February 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

Blue, Blue Everywhere ...

Is Microsoft making yet another careless mistake reminiscent of the Metro naming fiasco and the missing EU Windows 7 browser ballot? I think so. First, notice the numerous "Blue" stories, here are just a few ...

• Windows Blue may reach beyond Windows, could be a noteworthy upgrade for Microsoft ( NeoWin 2013-02-07 )
  
• Microsoft needs to keep visible under waves of Blue ... Analysis: New codename, new everything, and not just Windows.... ( UK Register 2013-02-09 )
  
• Big Windows updates may ship this summer – and every summer ... Microsoft's 'Blue' could do away with major releases ( UK Register 2013-02-09 )
  
• Microsoft 'Blue' to encompass Windows 8, Phone, Services and RT ( TechSpot 2013-02-07 )

... A couple of Register commenters have noticed something I did as well. Lets step through this in order ...

<A> We've known all about their cloud services "Azure" since about 3 years now, Wikipedia: Windows Azure ( 2010-02-01 ).

<B> Then, almost exactly one year ago we had the new Windows Logo Microsoft Unveils a Brand New Windows Logo ( 2012-02-18 ) where they sacked the 4-color flag in favor of an IBM-like light blue last seen in Windows 1.0.

Spoiler

<C> Then we heard of Windows "Blue" a month after Windows 8 launch: Windows Blue is Microsoft's future low-cost OS with yearly updates ( 2012-11-28 ).

Now let's review what the color "Azure" actually is. Wikipedia: Azure (color)

Spoiler

Obviously: Azure == Blue ( color ) == Cloud Services == Windows "Blue" and other application Updates

So it should be pretty simple now to disregard as propaganda the Windows Update called "Blue" and instead associate it with Cloud instead. Perhaps finally the long suspected pushing of subscription models into all their products, in fact I'd say it is patently obvious this is the direction. First they offer both Office Desktop and Office 364, then phase out the workstation software as the company suicide proceeds. Then, take next product, rinse repeat, continue until all products are subscription and all normal users hate their guts. ( Ironically with the crazy pace of Windows releases at almost every 3 years since Win3x, you might say we already have a subscription model, just divide the price by 3 to see what your annual bill already is. The same exact thing can be said for Office obviously in the identical time frame. )

However, this isn't the mistake I was thinking about, though indeed the subscription thing is a mistake. No, the mistake ( also noticed by at least one Register commenter ) is the 3 year ongoing evolution to all things "Blue". IBM owns everything blue, at least in spirit but more likely in copyright as well. Big Blue is IBM, so perhaps Little Blue is Microsoft? The mistake is actually two-fold ... (1) another possible Metro-like trademark infringement, and (2) the obvious bad idea of opening up themselves to all manner of parody - BSOD ( blue screen of death ), Singing the Blues, and even the Titanic sinking in a Blue Ocean. Okay, I'll start ...



EDIT: typos

..yep, thats what Im talking about,bru.

Since w3.11, there is no such a numbness BSODs.
Take a look @ the near past:
BSOD,our cousin

..no doubt, culprit must b an Apple looks like, windows navigator

This post has been edited by TheBigBang: 10 February 2013 - 07:15 AM

[jaclaz]

Question: Where are the clouds?
Answer: They are in the sky*.
Question: Which colour is the sky?
Answer: Blue.
Question: Very good, Timmy, do you know some other names for the colour of the sky?
Answer: Cyan, Azure.

The matter has been established overhearing a fifth grade class.

JFYI, azzurro is not really a shade of blue in Italian, it has it's "own dignity", blu (or blue) corresponds to "navy blue".

jaclaz


*together with Lucy and diamonds

OT, but not much :

Quote

Yesterday you told me 'bout the blue, blue sky soft
And all that I can see is just a yellow lemon riping apple tree

[ciHnoN]

JorgeA, on 09 February 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

There is no safer alternative than to keep your own stuff on your own storage media, located in a place controlled by you. Which is why 64GB Surface tablets just don't cut it.

--JorgeA

If you can't touch it, you don't own it.

[ciHnoN]

CharlotteTheHarlot, on 09 February 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

People better take note of this stuff, I don't know how you can make it any clearer really. Mis-identified pictures disappearing from Skydrive, suspended accounts, the whole Mega fiasco with countless unrelated sites suddenly locking down access just to be sure. There soon will be no private property, and peer-to-peer communication if allowed will be monitored like a visit to a convict in prison.

The cloud is a proxy for traditional server overlords. Your position in that age-old client-server relationship has always been obedience and submission, with a side-order of begging the admin or sysop for favorable treatment. I for one do not welcome our new ( or old ) overlords.

Imagine:





Imagine there's no countries

Imagine no possessions

Globalization + Cloud services... are we there yet? Suddenly, this tune is feeling very creepy.

[JorgeA]

ciHnoN, on 10 February 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

JorgeA, on 09 February 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

There is no safer alternative than to keep your own stuff on your own storage media, located in a place controlled by you. Which is why 64GB Surface tablets just don't cut it.

--JorgeA

If you can't touch it, you don't own it.

That's a great motto, I love it!

--JorgeA

[JorgeA]

ciHnoN, on 10 February 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Imagine there's no countries

Imagine no possessions

Globalization + Cloud services... are we there yet? Suddenly, this tune is feeling very creepy.

You know, for a long time I've thought that the vision set out in that song is pretty horrible. (If there's nothing to kill or die for, then there's nothing to live for.) But now that you mention it, in some ways current trends in computing do seem to be pulling us in that direction.

Wow.

--JorgeA