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Which post SP3 updates will not integrate in the nLite ?

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I use -X- Update down-loader,along with the IE-8 add-on creator with the nLite and it works great. But I Also want to slipstream wmp11 and all those updates and I will use Boooggy's WMP11 slip streamer for that..

My questions are:

1. Should I slipstream wmp11 before or after I slipstream -X- updates..

2. After I slipstream everything in the right order and install my new custom CD, there will be more updates showing up on windows update site,so how do I know which of THESE NEW updates will or will not slipstream in the nLite ?


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1. You should do it all in one run so the answer is at the same time. Put Boooggy's slipstreamer in the nLite folder and nLite will automatically use it. Note: You should not use the WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KBxxxxxx-x86-ENU.cab files but instead the original files. See footnote 1.

2. The reason you are seeing more updates is because I haven't touched the site in 2 months (getting tired of it :( ). Regarding the new updates not on my list, they should all slipstream.

Here are the updates, I haven't gotten too...

DECEMBER
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JANUARY
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1. You should do it all in one run so the answer is at the same time. Put Boooggy's slipstreamer in the nLite folder and nLite will automatically use it.


What nlite folder, You mean in the nlite 'program files' folder ? So download the slipstreamer and put it in the nlite 'program files' folder or download it and 'install' it to the nlite 'program files' folder ?

Note: You should not use the WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KBxxxxxx-x86-ENU.cab files but instead the original files. See footnote 1.


You mean use the original files instead of the UDC created add-ons now that the wmp 11 slipstreamer will be in use ?

Edited by aliceinchains, 02 February 2012 - 12:20 PM.


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Yes, the nLite Program Files folder.

Correct, don't use the UDC created ones for WMP11.

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Yes, the nLite Program Files folder.


OK.... Do I 'install' wmp 11 slipstreamer to the folder or just download it and place it in the folder ?

Correct, don't use the UDC created ones for WMP11.


Ok but I still use these UDC ones ?

WindowsUpdateAgent7.4.7600.226.cab
WGA.Validation.AddOn-v1.9.42.0.7z
Adobe.Flash.Player-v11.1.102.55.cab
WindowsXP-KB975254-x86-ENU.cab



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I'm not sure if it comes with an installer. Just place the file in the nLite folder. If it comes with an installer, install to the nLite folder.

Yes, those are fine.

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I'm not sure if it comes with an installer. Just place the file in the nLite folder. If it comes with an installer, install to the nLite folder.

Yes, those are fine.


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I just got done updating the web page and script to January's patch Tuesday. http://xdot.tk/

You may want to download the new script and run in in your current updates folder or you can do it manually via the changes below...


Changelog

January 2012

+ WindowsXP-KB2584146-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2585542-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2598479-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2603381-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2631813-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2646524-x86-ENU.exe

- WindowsXP-KB971737-x86-ENU.exe and WindowsXP-KB2541763-x86-ENU.exe replaced by WindowsXP-KB2585542-x86-ENU.exe
- WindowsXP-KB975562-x86-ENU.exe replaced by WindowsXP-KB2631813-x86-ENU.exe
- WindowsXP-KB2567680-x86-ENU.exe replaced by WindowsXP-KB2646524-x86-ENU.exe


December 2011

+ WindowsXP-KB2618444-x86-ENU.exe %5B4%5D
+ WindowsXP-KB2618451-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2619339-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2620712-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2624667-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2633171-x86-ENU.exe
+ WindowsXP-KB2639417-x86-ENU.exe

- WindowsXP-KB2507938-x86-ENU.exe replaced by WindowsXP-KB2567680-x86-ENU.exe and WindowsXP-KB2620712-x86-ENU.exe
- WindowsXP-KB2562937-x86-ENU.exe replaced by WindowsXP-KB2618451-x86-ENU.exe
- WindowsXP-KB2567053-x86-ENU.exe replaced by WindowsXP-KB2639417-x86-ENU.exe
- WindowsXP-KB2586448-x86-ENU.exe replaced by WindowsXP-KB2618444-x86-ENU.exe


November 23, 2011

+ WindowsXP-KB2633952-x86-ENU.exe

- WindowsXP-KB2570791-x86-ENU.exe replaced by WindowsXP-KB2633952-x86-ENU.exe


Footnote #4: If you're slipstreaming IE8, replace WindowsXP-KB2618444-x86-ENU.exe with IE8-WindowsXP-KB2618444-x86-ENU.exe.


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I just got done updating the web page and script to January's patch Tuesday. http://xdot.tk/updates.html

You may want to download the new script and run in in your current updates folder or you can do it manually via the changes below...



What does this do, to run it in my update folder ? In other words, what is the advantage of running this in an update folder as opposed to just running it as current ? (thanks for updating it,by the way) :)


Also, I did use the wmp 11 slip streamer and I replaced the 6 media player add-on update cabs with the ones from Microsoft and 'KB975558' didn't install because it showed up on windows updates. Any Ideas why ? The other ones were added.

Plus, what is the difference if you use that add-on cabs or the ones from Microsoft, wouldn't nlite grab them just the same ?

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What does this do, to run it in my update folder ? In other words, what is the advantage of running this in an update folder as opposed to just running it as current


Running it in the current update folder will ONLY download the newer files that are not present and will move the outdated files to a folder named Obsolete.


Also, I did use the wmp 11 slip streamer and I replaced the 6 media player add-on update cabs with the ones from Microsoft and 'KB975558' didn't install because it showed up on windows updates. Any Ideas why ? The other ones were added.


Don't know. Maybe it's a bug with Booooggy's slipstreamer. I looked at the update internally and it seems like a normal update.

Plus, what is the difference if you use that add-on cabs or the ones from Microsoft, wouldn't nlite grab them just the same ?


If you are referring to the WMP ones, the add-ons only have the file versions for WMP 9. The other non WMP add-ons can't be processed by nLite in their original form.

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Don't know. Maybe it's a bug with Booooggy's slipstreamer. I looked at the update internally and it seems like a normal update.

OK...

By the way, I noticed that Booooggy's slipstreamer automatically pops up when it slipstreams wmp11 but it doesn't actually show it slipstreaming the wmp updates. It this right ?

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Don't know. I've never used it.

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-X- again thanks dude, I noticed you updated your site Feb 14th..

Edited by aliceinchains, 15 February 2012 - 06:19 PM.


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No problem. You may want to check the site again. I just updated it with the new Flash player.

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1. You should do it all in one run so the answer is at the same time. Put Boooggy's slipstreamer in the nLite folder and nLite will automatically use it. Note: You should not use the WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KBxxxxxx-x86-ENU.cab files but instead the original files. See footnote 1.


-X- ... Hey man, Here is the problem with doing this all at once... You can't add any of the updates for wmp 11 to Boooggy's slipstreamer when you do it in the same run as you described,it only installs wmp11....

However you did say to replace your 6 wmp addons updates with the regular ones, (since I'm slipstreaming wmp11) so I added them to the nlite as that was my only option unless you know otherwise. (?)

Interesting enough, 5 out of 6 installed but KB975558 will not install with the nlite. This does bring me to a couple of questions.. I'm curious why you made the wmp addon cab files when 5 out of 6 regular ones slipstreamed in the nlite. My other question is how can I get KB975558 to slipstream ? I want to do this all in one shot but this just isn't possible the way I see it and All because of that one **** update.. lol

Any suggestions ? :unsure:

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That particular fix (KB975558) is one of several that has multiple WMP version updates in it. I've found that nLite has a little "heartburn" integrating these types. I've taken the alternate route of adding them manually (including the initial WMP11) into a RunOnce sequence (after First Logon) after nLite completes. Browse around here for a "how-to".

edit - and a "hint" of the Command to use here.

edot2 - DOH!!! See next post and try it... For the life of me, I can't remember why I chose the above route...

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I'm curious why you made the wmp addon cab files when 5 out of 6 regular ones slipstreamed in the nlite.

They slipstream but nLite will mistakenly use the WMP11 files. XP comes with WMP9 hence the need to the cabs.

EDIT: If you don't want to use submix8c method do this.

Start with a fresh source.
Run nLite and add WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB975558-x86-ENU.exe to the Hotfix, Add-ons and Update Packs section.
Click advanced in that section.
Uncheck Direct Hotfix Integration...

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Click next, etc till done.

Open the i386 folder and delete NLITE.IN_.

Start nLite again and do everything you normally do except adding KB975558.

You can also run the command nLite will use when not using the Direct Hotfix Integration...

Integrate Usage: /integrate:path where path refers to the folder that contains the i386 folder.
Example: C:\UDC-05.08.12\WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB975558-x86-ENU.exe /integrate:C:\MyXPSource

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Open the i386 folder and delete NLITE.IN_.

Start nLite again and do everything you normally do except adding KB975558.

You can also run the command nLite will use when not using the Direct Hotfix Integration...

Integrate Usage: /integrate:path where path refers to the folder that contains the i386 folder.
Example: C:\UDC-05.08.12\WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB975558-x86-ENU.exe /integrate:C:\MyXPSource


Cool.... I'm just going to use the nlite as you described instead of the /integrate switch, which brings me to another question.. If I used /integrate, would I still have to Open the i386 folder and delete something like the "NLITE.IN_.?" ( some other kind of _IN file created by /integrate )

Edited by aliceinchains, 24 May 2012 - 05:48 PM.


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No, NLITE.IN_ is only created when nLite is run.

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-X-, How do you figure out which updates are/were replaced by others,such as the ones in your 'Obsolete Updates' list ?

Example:

WindowsXP-KB923561-x86-ENU.exe "replaced by" 955759,979687,2259922.
WindowsXP-KB938464-x86-ENU.exe "replaced by" 938464

etc..

Where or how do you find this information ?

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Usually the MS bulletin will tell you but on some occasions MS misses some replacements. I keep a folder with all the updates extracted and the .inf files that contain any additional registry information. On each patch Tuesday, I download the updates manually and extract them and then search for the filenames in my extracted updates folder. If there is a match, I investigate further to see if ALL the files where replaced, the registry entries (if any) where replaced. etc etc.

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Usually the MS bulletin will tell you but on some occasions MS misses some replacements.


For some updates, MS doesn't even think they are "replacements" at all. I have one case, KB2695962 ActiveX Kill Bits update:

(http://technet.micro...dvisory/2695962, Frequently Asked Questions)
Does this update replace the Cumulative Security Update of ActiveX Kill Bits (2618451)?
No, for the purpose of automatic updating, this update does not replace the Cumulative Security Update of ActiveX Kill Bits (2618451) that is described in Microsoft Security Bulletin MS11-090. Automatic updating will still offer the MS11-090 update to customers regardless of whether or not they installed this update (2695962). However, customers who install this update (2695962) do not need to install the MS11-090 update to be protected with all the kill bits set in MS11-090.

although MS did say that KB2695962 contains KB2618451.

What kill bits does this Update Rollup of ActiveX Kill Bits contain?
This Update Rollup of ActiveX Kill Bits contains new kill bits and all kill bits previously released in [......] MS11-090, Cumulative Security Update of ActiveX Kill Bits [...].



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MS are doo doo heads. :lol:

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What's it mean when KB2675157 (footnote 4) shows up on windows update, TWICE ? LOL

I will say this -X- .. I did exactly what you said with the nLite (doing that one update first/deleting nlite_in etc... and I do have a perfect install now.. I made another install (long story short) and I might have deleted something I shouldn't have but not sure yet.



I don't know if you ever noticed this but sometimes when you download an update from Microsoft, it fails but you wouldn't know it unless you checked the file size..

I tried downloading SP3 like 5 times one day and it ended up being around 200mb..

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What's it mean when KB2675157 (footnote 4) shows up on windows update, TWICE ? LOL

Not sure. Are you doing IE6 or IE8?

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