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#21 User is offline   MagicAndre1981 

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:47 PM

1. your pints are all not true. You don't understand the UAC. Read the link again and see how wrong it is ;)
4. Windows Vista and 7 perform the same. xperf tells me this.
9 steady state was only part of the Windows 7 Beta and was removed ;)
14. where is it better? you posted a PR marketing phrase and nothing more.
15. and Vista not? *rofl* YOu get updates till 2017 for Vista :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Posted 06 March 2012 - 02:13 AM

8. Better FPS in most games
This is untrue!! On the same machine the fps measured with fraps are practically identical! The problem lies in the hardware sold in 2006-2007 that was so under-powered for Vista and hardware sold in 2009-2010 that ran 7 just fine! I am a gamer and just for testing I did a 7 install - dual boot with Vista - on the same machine purchased in 2007 with the following configuration:
1. CPU core duo E6400 default frequency;
2. motherboard Abit AW9D with Intel 975x chipset;
3. 4 * 1024 mb ram DDR2 - 800;
4. Geforce 7600gt default clocks;
5. 500 gb hdd, dvdrw.
In NFS MW, Carbon and HP - I play lots of simulators - fraps shows identical performance! The problem lies mainly in the ram department: most computers were sold in 2006-2007 with 1 gb of ram and as Joe did not known anything about pc's he bought the machine with Vista capable sticker on it and started complaining about poor performance! On computers with 4 gb and more of ram Vista X64 and 7 X64 have near identical performance! I removed 2 gb of ram and performance plummeted immediately in both OS, with 1 stick left the games were unplayable.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 08:19 AM

finally someone who doesn't believe every marking nonsense MSFT posted all the day :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 11:18 AM

View PostUltimateSilence, on 16 February 2012 - 12:35 AM, said:


Windows Vista is DirectX 11 compatible. Direct2D and DirectWrite were both back ported to Windows Vista...


only for Vista SP2. if you're using Vista RTM or SP1, DirectX11 can't be installed on those versions.

IMHO, Vista was barely a PR nightmare in early 2007. a couple of SPs for Vista afterwards, seemed to have ironed out some of its serious problems.
I still use Vista but with SP2 on my mom's Dell Inspiron 640m laptop and it runs fine. maybe adding anohter 1Gb RAM stick to her laptop (to make it 2gb) will
boost the performance since it came with 1gb of ram installed

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:01 PM

I hate the way Microsoft has poorly supported Vista (and Server 2008). Both should have got SP3. Plus, MS won't support the following on Vista SP2:
- IE10
- Visual Studio 11
- .NET Framework 4.5
- Windows Management Framework 3.0 (PowerShell 3.0, WMI and WinRM 3.0)
- Kinect SDK
- Paint.NET 4.0 (because its developer is an MS fanboy)

Wish Microsoft supported Vista better.

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 05:36 PM

View PostCoffeeFiend, on 14 February 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

-Improved keyboard shortcuts for those of us who use the keyboard a lot


This was one of my absolute favourite, favourite, favourite things I discovered about Windows 7 when I was keeping up with the leaked builds during development. I almost cried with delight.




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Posted 12 May 2012 - 03:58 AM

@xpclient
You should still be able to run all of these in Vista with some tricks. I found this post on a Polish forum where someone managed to run IE10 Preview in Vista by just copying the files manually.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:29 AM

View Posttomasz86, on 12 May 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

@xpclient
You should still be able to run all of these in Vista with some tricks. I found this post on a Polish forum where someone managed to run IE10 Preview in Vista by just copying the files manually.

tomasz86,

Wow, no kidding!? You can simply copy the IE10 files over to Vista, and it will work? That sounds so MS-DOS. :thumbup

This is amazing. But, doesn't IE10 have to get "installed" in some way? I can see the method working if you launch IE10 directly (from a shortcut that you manually created, or in Windows Explorer), but what happens if you click on a link in a Windows Help file, or on a link in an e-mail? In those cases I have to think that Vista would use the "official" installed version of IE, right?

Very interesting!

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:43 AM

View Postxpclient, on 11 May 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

I hate the way Microsoft has poorly supported Vista (and Server 2008). Both should have got SP3.
An FYI (and as an opinion only) - Vista, 2K8, and Win7(?) were the last to have x86 versions. 2K8-R2 and anything newer tends toward x64 apparently due to marketing of new hardware. They just don't want to bother anymore (IMHO). XP was lucky to get an SP3.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:59 AM

@JorgeA
He simply said that he'd copied IE10 files from Windows 7 where it had been first installed :)

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:53 PM

View Posttomasz86, on 12 May 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

@xpclient
You should still be able to run all of these in Vista with some tricks. I found this post on a Polish forum where someone managed to run IE10 Preview in Vista by just copying the files manually.

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Tomasz86, that's amazing! I'm going to try it out tomorrow.
Thank you for sharing. I felt bad because Vista was left out.

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 02:18 PM

View Postxpclient, on 11 May 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

Plus, MS won't support the following on Vista SP2:
- IE10


this is a good thing. I hat IE9/10 (because of the horrible font rendering) and I'll stay for ever at IE8 and use Firefox instead.

View Postxpclient, on 11 May 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

- Paint.NET 4.0 (because its developer is an MS fanboy)


replace fanboy with Employee ;)

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 06:09 PM

problem with copying IE 10 files over IE 8 (or whichever)
is that you lose all buttons and menu's with it
all you get is "fullscreen" app which is quite useless if you ask me

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 07:07 AM

you can build an unofficial IE 10 with real GUI (IE9 GUI files):

http://news.softpedi...ta-163569.shtml
http://blogs.technet...uper-alpha.aspx

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:14 PM

I'd rather see portable of IE9 or 10
having that thing running freely makes me creep

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 04:09 AM

View PostUltimateSilence, on 12 May 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

View Posttomasz86, on 12 May 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

@xpclient
You should still be able to run all of these in Vista with some tricks. I found this post on a Polish forum where someone managed to run IE10 Preview in Vista by just copying the files manually.

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Tomasz86, that's amazing! I'm going to try it out tomorrow.
Thank you for sharing. I felt bad because Vista was left out.


not sure if this can be accomplished with IE 10 final. MS hasn't yet released a final version of IE 10 for Win7 and Win8 has already been RTM'ed (aka. finalized). IE 10 final could be a little different than IE 10 preview.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 08:35 AM

If I had any interest in IE10, I'd try the solution Tomasz86 suggested when the final version is ready. But as it is, I'm sticking with IE8 because it's the last version with a fully functional status bar.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:16 PM

Good read! I have had mixed experiences with windows Vista I moved from an old 98 that was upgraded to XP to Windows Vista and thought it was the greatest thing. I mostly had trouble with drivers and copying/moving files it seemed like it took a long time to copy files. I do agree with the article writer about the missing programs AKA Windows Live Essentials I liked it better when they just came bundled with Windows.

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