USB Multiboot 10
#1
Posted 14 February 2012 - 05:35 AM
#2
Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:39 AM
rajdaila, on 14 February 2012 - 05:35 AM, said:
Have you followed to the letter the instrutions in the thread:
http://www.msfn.org/...ll-xp-from-usb/
particularly:
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The file TEE.BAT is exactly where it should be inside the .zip, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be there when the achive is unzipped.
jaclaz
#3
Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:12 PM
And the TEE.BAT is indeed right where it is supposed to be.
jaclaz, on 14 February 2012 - 06:39 AM, said:
rajdaila, on 14 February 2012 - 05:35 AM, said:
Have you followed to the letter the instrutions in the thread:
http://www.msfn.org/...ll-xp-from-usb/
particularly:
Quote
The file TEE.BAT is exactly where it should be inside the .zip, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be there when the achive is unzipped.
jaclaz
#4
Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:54 AM
TheEditor, on 06 July 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:
And the TEE.BAT is indeed right where it is supposed to be.
What Windows version do you use ?
#5
Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:46 AM
wimb, on 07 July 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:
TheEditor, on 06 July 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:
And the TEE.BAT is indeed right where it is supposed to be.
What Windows version do you use ?
#6
Posted 07 July 2012 - 06:48 AM
wimb, on 07 July 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:
TheEditor, on 06 July 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:
And the TEE.BAT is indeed right where it is supposed to be.
What Windows version do you use ?
#7
Posted 07 July 2012 - 08:43 AM
Also for Win 7 you must modify USB_MultiBoot_10.cmd and instead of 6.0 for vista it must be 6.1 for Win7 like
VER | find "6.1." > nul
But it is much more advisable to use better approach as described here:
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=24424
Install of XP or Windows 7 from USB After Booting with 7 PE and
by using WinNTSetup2_x86.exe and Setup ISO file in Virtual drive
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and that makes everything much more reliable and you have full control of what you are doing.
Also using a single XP Setup ISO file mounted in ImDisk Virtual drive is much more reliable
than having a bunch of XP Setup files on USB.
Transfer of the ISO file to USB is much faster and easier to maintain.
Instead of USB-stick it is much better to use Portable 2.5 inch USB-harddisk e.g. Samsung S2
As easy to carry and connect, but much higher speed and more capacity.
#8
Posted 07 July 2012 - 11:58 AM
USBM seemed to work ok and after a few minutes I had my USB finished.
Tried to boot eeebox off this and failed. Did come up with menu that had several options. All failed for various reasons. I think 2 separate options gave BSODs, a couple gave hal.dll errors. I think the last menu option - attended xp - seemed to get me the furthest before failing.
The instructions on that page you cite have some ambiguities and its tough to follow. I've put in over 10 hours on this now.
wimb, on 07 July 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:
Also for Win 7 you must modify USB_MultiBoot_10.cmd and instead of 6.0 for vista it must be 6.1 for Win7 like
VER | find "6.1." > nul
But it is much more advisable to use better approach as described here:
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=24424
Install of XP or Windows 7 from USB After Booting with 7 PE and
by using WinNTSetup2_x86.exe and Setup ISO file in Virtual drive
Quote
and that makes everything much more reliable and you have full control of what you are doing.
Also using a single XP Setup ISO file mounted in ImDisk Virtual drive is much more reliable
than having a bunch of XP Setup files on USB.
Transfer of the ISO file to USB is much faster and easier to maintain.
Instead of USB-stick it is much better to use Portable 2.5 inch USB-harddisk e.g. Samsung S2
As easy to carry and connect, but much higher speed and more capacity.
#9
Posted 07 July 2012 - 12:14 PM
I must have registered accounts on 4-5 separate forums since last night. Why is it so hard to install XP via USB?
wimb, on 07 July 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=24424
Install of XP or Windows 7 from USB After Booting with 7 PE and
by using WinNTSetup2_x86.exe and Setup ISO file in Virtual drive
#10
Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:28 PM
TheEditor, on 07 July 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:
I must have registered accounts on 4-5 separate forums since last night. Why is it so hard to install XP via USB?
Maybe it is because you are using a tool outside it's intended usage paradigm.
This tool has helped surely thoudands, likely tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands people in installing XP from USB device. (people that were running XP)
Some other tools, including he one wimb pointed you to or the "other app":
http://www.msfn.org/...omusb-with-gui/
have been developed since, some may work "better", some may NOT work, some may be working AND more convenient.
Try looking at the half full glass
jaclaz
#11
Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:35 PM
jaclaz, on 07 July 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:
TheEditor, on 07 July 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:
I must have registered accounts on 4-5 separate forums since last night. Why is it so hard to install XP via USB?
Maybe it is because you are using a tool outside it's intended usage paradigm.
This tool has helped surely thoudands, likely tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands people in installing XP from USB device. (people that were running XP)
Some other tools, including he one wimb pointed you to or the "other app":
http://www.msfn.org/...omusb-with-gui/
have been developed since, some may work "better", some may NOT work, some may be working AND more convenient.
Try looking at the half full glass
jaclaz
#12
Posted 07 July 2012 - 03:54 PM
TheEditor, on 07 July 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:
There was no actually helpful suggestion implied in my post, only a "generic":
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and a hinting that maybe, since one or the other of the mentioned utilities has been proved to work for several (many) people, then it is possible that you have *something else*, be it the source, the actual USB device or your understandng of the use of the tool that *somehow* is "not standard".
At it's very minimum, please read here:
http://www.msfn.org/...ut-extra-tools/
there is no actual need of a dedicated tool, you could try the manual steps outlined in the above.
The mentioned thread is about an user (BTW using Windows 7 as "building" environment) that detailed how exactly to make a USB install stick manually (there are anyway a limited number of steps in it, ten in total) self-imposing the use of NO third-party tools.
jaclaz
#13
Posted 08 July 2012 - 08:57 AM
The "key" to making them has been given with the appropriate links. There are various methods for each, using various BootStrap programs. I prefer Grub4DOS, but that's just me.
BTW, the FIRST thing to do is to ensure that the USB Device is indeed bootable, then take it from there. I have two sticks, one of them having two partitions, the second accessible only with a "special driver" (not really, but I use it) in the USB-Bootable OS and it does work!
Summary - Don't be so rash as to say "the instructions suck" just because you want something that "magically" does everything for you the first try... And don't forget to RTFM (all info given in said links) - in some cases you just need to run part of the "tool" (see previous paragraph) and do the rest manually.
#14
Posted 08 July 2012 - 12:35 PM
I don't think I've got a hardware issue; the CentOS on the box (an eee box EB1007 with a bigger drive) runs fine with no issues.
jaclaz, on 07 July 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:
http://www.msfn.org/...ut-extra-tools/
there is no actual need of a dedicated tool, you could try the manual steps outlined in the above.
The mentioned thread is about an user (BTW using Windows 7 as "building" environment) that detailed how exactly to make a USB install stick manually (there are anyway a limited number of steps in it, ten in total) self-imposing the use of NO third-party tools.
#15
Posted 08 July 2012 - 12:41 PM
And the fact remains - that latest version of BootUSB (5.3) mentioned at 911cd literally doesn't work. Which is the point where I threw up my hands and got a little frustrated.
submix8c, on 08 July 2012 - 08:57 AM, said:
#16
Posted 08 July 2012 - 02:10 PM
TheEditor, on 08 July 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:
I don't think I've got a hardware issue; the CentOS on the box (an eee box EB1007 with a bigger drive) runs fine with no issues.
jaclaz, on 07 July 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:
there is no actual need of a dedicated tool, you could try the manual steps outlined in the above.
TheEditor, on 08 July 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:
And the fact remains - that latest version of BootUSB (5.3) mentioned at 911cd literally doesn't work. Which is the point where I threw up my hands and got a little frustrated.
If i'm not mistaken, the "normal" method of Install From USB requires the use of creating the "$Win_NT$.~bt" and ".~ls" folders and the root files first. You would have to then manually alter several files (see this). That's one way. Another way is to use Grub4DOS and mount the CD ISO Image in memory (provided sufficient memory exists).
In the way you just used (apparently from jaclaz' link), you said "it didn't work" / "txt mode' / "starting windows" / "BSOD"
Assuming, you followed the steps to the letter it should have worked (never tried it myself).
Is there any way you can actually SAY what the BSOD (generic term with no specific meaning) was? You mentioned an EEE PC - maybe problems with drivers?.
It's obvious that the USB is now bootable though... Largest hurdle passed...
This post has been edited by submix8c: 08 July 2012 - 02:35 PM
#17
Posted 08 July 2012 - 03:31 PM
Another likely possibility, since several methods failed is an issue with the actual source, possibly (badly or "too much") nlited and/or (badly) integrated with SP's or later KB's or simply, for *whatever* reason, "botched".
There may also be issues (maybe) with some of the less common "eastern languages" source, but I doubt it.
@TheEditor
If you would be so nice to choose one method (the given manual way being the easiest to correct/fix/modify) and post the standard litany:
http://homepage.ntlw...ard-litany.html
Maybe we could go forward, until you continue saying "this didn't work" or "this other didn't work" we will remain in the "I'm ill, doctor. Help!" stage, actually in the "I'm ill, doctor, and you suck as a doctor. Help!" one.
jaclaz
This post has been edited by jaclaz: 08 July 2012 - 03:33 PM
#18
Posted 08 July 2012 - 10:56 PM
That at least got the ball rolling a bit. Now I'm working on a EULA not found error. Basic files get loaded and I come to screen where I can officially start installing. I hit Enter and get the EULA error. I've searched threads here and came upon suggested solutions but none have yet worked.
#19
Posted 09 July 2012 - 02:56 AM
TheEditor, on 08 July 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:
Yes, that will have solved your problem.
Instead of changing in BIOS the SATA Controller setting from AHCI into IDE
you could have followed the description on How to prepare XP setup Source.
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=24424
http://www.msfn.org/...ll-xp-from-usb/
For Install of XP on a modern system with SATA Drives it is needed to use DPsBase.exe for Integrating in your XPSOURCE DriverPack Massstorage with TXT Mode Enabled. http://driverpacks.net/downloads In that case a lot of Extra RAID SCSI and SATA Drivers (about 120 extra) are Integrated which appear in the XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on Install-Drive and can prevent a lot of XP Install Boot Problems.
This post has been edited by wimb: 09 July 2012 - 02:58 AM
#20
Posted 09 July 2012 - 08:40 AM
There are plenty of "eula not found" posts around here and last night I probably tried 5 different fixes unsuccessfully. This is getting a bit OT for this thread title and I'll post further in more appropriate places. Thanks to jaclaz for the "manual" link as this has given me enough hands-on experience to implement the EULA fix attempts.
wimb, on 09 July 2012 - 02:56 AM, said:
you could have followed the description on How to prepare XP setup Source.
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=24424
http://www.msfn.org/...ll-xp-from-usb/
For Install of XP on a modern system with SATA Drives it is needed to use DPsBase.exe for Integrating in your XPSOURCE DriverPack Massstorage with TXT Mode Enabled. http://driverpacks.net/downloads In that case a lot of Extra RAID SCSI and SATA Drivers (about 120 extra) are Integrated which appear in the XP Setup BootFolder $WIN_NT$.~BT on Install-Drive and can prevent a lot of XP Install Boot Problems.



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